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On January 05 2013 06:06 konadora wrote: my starting items are 2x ring of protection and a quelling blade, i usually farm a tranquil boots fast enough to not warrant a regen item unless i feel they're gonna offlane a ranged, then i just get qb later. farms pretty damn well with qb + diffusal as mentioned above You sort of missed what I'm saying. Radiance isn't compelling as a teamfight item alone. You have to be using it's all-out farm ability for it to be worth getting at all. So either you rush Radiance, or you just don't bother buying it. Diffusal->Radiance is a nonsensical build that doesn't farm fast because you delayed Radiance, and then doesn't teamfight well either because you spend forever saving for a Relic rather than buying Manta parts. And don't get me started on that item start, lol. | ||
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On January 05 2013 06:10 TheYango wrote: You sort of missed what I'm saying. Radiance isn't compelling as a teamfight item alone. You have to be using it's all-out farm ability for it to be worth getting at all. So either you rush Radiance, or you just don't bother buying it. Diffusal->Radiance is a nonsensical build that doesn't farm fast because you delayed Radiance, and then doesn't teamfight well either because you spend forever saving for a Relic rather than buying Manta parts. hmm the point of me getting diffusal into radiance is to participate in fights earlier (the feedback is really useful, especially when i max spirit lance and juxtapose first), and then the radiance (which i manage to farm in like 4-5 mins due to all the creep kills + tower pushes) helps to multilane/camp push/farm. gpm goes up exponentially. usually i have my tranquil boots, soul ring (or ring of basilius), qb, radiance and diffusal by 23-25min ish | ||
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It doesn't actually change the fact that you tunnel back into the jungle to farm. It just delays it, while also making your farm growth less explosive because you pushed back Radiance so long. | ||
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That was awesome. | ||
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On January 05 2013 06:27 blahz0r wrote: Shouldn't need the qb either unless you're really bad at last hitting I understand people that get QB on PL, his damage range is way too big to get comfortable with. | ||
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On January 05 2013 06:34 TheYango wrote: What blahz0r is saying (and he's right about this) is that QB is a useless item to start with. If you get a freefarm lane, then QB is useless because you should be able to lasthit without it, and you can finish your important items 225 gold sooner. If you don't get a freefarm lane, then wasting money on QB early inhibits your ability to actually win the lane--when you can start without QB and then buy one after you've decisively taken control of the lane. hmm makes sense i guess i'm too used to using qb on all my melee carries :< | ||
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On January 05 2013 06:38 blahz0r wrote: For Battle Fury carrying heroes, you can buy it later to speed up farming. Useful for cutting down that one tree to reduce time inbetween camps as well. i go PMS first on am/void/spectre but usually follow up with a qb real fast i should stop this bad habit lol @_@ because i can last hit fine with heroes like invoker and rubick | ||
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Tango+Salve+Stout+3xBranch - Standard. Tango+Stout+RoP+Branch - This is what you get if you have an easy lane and want to skimp on regen. Tango+Salve+PMS+2xBranch - Random gold. Tango+Branch+2xRoP+Circlet+Wraith Band Recipe - Random gold. Buy everything you need to finish Tranquil+Aquila at side shop. | ||
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That was awesome.