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Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
January 04 2013 18:32 GMT
#35841
I agree that it is pretty much entirely due to how much better the chinese are at shutting down offlanes, go search for any of the old BH games and watch how hard he gets shut down compared to western offlanes where the wave gets pushed to the tower and he gets free levels.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 04 2013 18:34 GMT
#35842
Play solo offlane BH in pubs. Hit level 6 before the enemy mid(they had a really nice deny war). Just a random thought
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 18:38:42
January 04 2013 18:36 GMT
#35843
I am not so sure about Wisp, there might be a few causes

Chinese teams don't like Wisp because Wisp is a weak laner, often it needs to lane mid(preferably on the Radiant side because it can midpull).
Chinese teams deny mapcontrol faster and more often, for Wisp you want mapcontrol of your own(in order to wisp tp gank). Up to a certain degree I would argue that Wisp is weak if you are playing from behind.
Wisp can not really gank well relativly until level 6, there needs to be an oppertunity for a tether in order to get the stun, getting level 6 is also priority one. Thus Wisp might be too passive.
Chinese players run around more in packs and thus its harder to pick off people.
Wisp can not counterpush, a variety of other heroes can.

Or perhaps they simply don't practice the hero/don't see its usefullness.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 04 2013 18:36 GMT
#35844
On January 05 2013 03:34 Qbek wrote:
Play solo offlane BH in pubs. Hit level 6 before the enemy mid(they had a really nice deny war). Just a random thought

BH has always destroyed pubs - in those low level pubs hes just a riki that doesn't need to farm a diffusal that can lane anywhere he wants :[
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Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
January 04 2013 18:37 GMT
#35845
On January 05 2013 02:02 NeonFlare wrote:
Zeus was used during TI1 I think, so was probably BS unless he wasn't out during that time. I think only Axe was unused back then and he saw some minor playtime later with all the buffs.

Isn't there that game in the Defense where they needed to win by like 33 minutes or something to get through to the next round, Zues was drafted in that wasn't he? Couldn't find the game .
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 04 2013 18:47 GMT
#35846
On January 04 2013 16:01 FinestHour wrote:
blahz0r is a batrider picker

The heck?? I randomed... and played a really rusty jungle bat
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akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
January 04 2013 18:58 GMT
#35847
I might have found something Bloodseeker is good against: apparently if you die and buyback (or have aegis) you will still have the Rupture debuff on you, so you can kill all the people who rage-buyback and are not paying attention (and they don't since they just rage-buybacked and are pissed as heck).
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 19:02:54
January 04 2013 19:02 GMT
#35848
I once got ultied by a BS + he was joined by a friend, i started TP'ing and thought i was safe since my TP went off.
Started looking around the map the second the TP finished.
Suddenly i died and realized my hero had started running somewhere the second the TP started for some reason. FML. Forgot to shift queue hold position ;_;
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
January 04 2013 19:05 GMT
#35849
Recently I've been getting flamed for randoming in AP games.

And I ALWAYS random as soon as game starts, so technically I'm not ruining the team composition. *sigh
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 04 2013 19:06 GMT
#35850
On January 05 2013 04:05 trinxified wrote:
Recently I've been getting flamed for randoming in AP games.

And I ALWAYS random as soon as game starts, so technically I'm not ruining the team composition. *sigh

Well, are you randoming meepo?

:D
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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 19:27:17
January 04 2013 19:19 GMT
#35851
On January 05 2013 04:06 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 04:05 trinxified wrote:
Recently I've been getting flamed for randoming in AP games.

And I ALWAYS random as soon as game starts, so technically I'm not ruining the team composition. *sigh

Well, are you randoming meepo?

:D


Lol there are small of heroes that I will most likely repick or try as much as possible to swap out (sometimes not even let the swap happen because I'm scared they'll fuck up too) from: Wisp, Timbersaw, Meepo, Treant. Maybe more once the other unreleased heroes come into play.

It's not that I haven't played these heroes before many times, but I just feel so uncomfortable playing them.
thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1775 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 19:21:58
January 04 2013 19:21 GMT
#35852
On January 05 2013 04:06 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 04:05 trinxified wrote:
Recently I've been getting flamed for randoming in AP games.

And I ALWAYS random as soon as game starts, so technically I'm not ruining the team composition. *sigh

Well, are you randoming meepo?

:D


yeah getting flamed after picking meepo is pretty common T.T makes me sad emo panda
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
January 04 2013 19:45 GMT
#35853
On January 05 2013 03:58 akatama wrote:
I might have found something Bloodseeker is good against: apparently if you die and buyback (or have aegis) you will still have the Rupture debuff on you, so you can kill all the people who rage-buyback and are not paying attention (and they don't since they just rage-buybacked and are pissed as heck).



yep some other spells linger like that too, it is very stupid.
myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
January 04 2013 19:50 GMT
#35854
On January 05 2013 04:45 aintz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 03:58 akatama wrote:
I might have found something Bloodseeker is good against: apparently if you die and buyback (or have aegis) you will still have the Rupture debuff on you, so you can kill all the people who rage-buyback and are not paying attention (and they don't since they just rage-buybacked and are pissed as heck).



yep some other spells linger like that too, it is very stupid.


Comewithme's wisp ulti comes to mind when he was in aL vs NTH.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
January 04 2013 19:54 GMT
#35855
On January 05 2013 04:21 thOr6136 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 04:06 Comeh wrote:
On January 05 2013 04:05 trinxified wrote:
Recently I've been getting flamed for randoming in AP games.

And I ALWAYS random as soon as game starts, so technically I'm not ruining the team composition. *sigh

Well, are you randoming meepo?

:D


yeah getting flamed after picking meepo is pretty common T.T makes me sad emo panda

well... do you have perfect micro skills?
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Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
January 04 2013 19:56 GMT
#35856
On January 05 2013 03:47 blahz0r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 16:01 FinestHour wrote:
blahz0r is a batrider picker

The heck?? I randomed... and played a really rusty jungle bat


Are you gonna make a Jungle Batrider Guide for your 2k post? =x
Skol
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
January 04 2013 19:58 GMT
#35857
it is a misconception that you have to be amazing/perfect to play meepo at all. It is totally true that to be effective with him you need lots of practice but if someone has put that time in you should just respect their pick and play because even a decent meepo can be quite a force.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 20:02:59
January 04 2013 20:00 GMT
#35858
A good meepo is one of the bigger pub stompers. A meepo that gets a quick aghs and blink can destroy targets very easily.


+ Show Spoiler +

One of my favourite parts of this is when puppey plays lycan and in the highground push against DK he just instantly takes out the fire panda the second it spawns, removes so much damage from the panda ult.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
January 04 2013 20:01 GMT
#35859
especially if they know how to split exp farm

lvl 25 so fast
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 04 2013 20:11 GMT
#35860
does jungle batrider really need a guide? just stack easy camp then stack hard camp then kill stuff with napalm and fire and get tranq bottle blink at like 10 min
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