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Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
December 17 2012 22:57 GMT
#34061
Ever heard of steam? Valve wins in every aspect
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
December 17 2012 22:57 GMT
#34062
On December 18 2012 07:56 Depetrify wrote:
Which company is bigger, earns more, has a larger value.. Valve or Riot? I would assume Valve still, but Riot gets sooo many microtransactions and such. Just curious.... Riot is growing a ton faster though, right?

Riot is owned by Tencent, the third biggest Chinese company, or something like that. Tencent is far bigger than Valve.
super gg
Depetrify
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 22:59:34
December 17 2012 22:58 GMT
#34063
On December 18 2012 07:57 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 07:56 Depetrify wrote:
Which company is bigger, earns more, has a larger value.. Valve or Riot? I would assume Valve still, but Riot gets sooo many microtransactions and such. Just curious.... Riot is growing a ton faster though, right?

Riot is owned by Tencent, the third biggest Chinese company, or something like that. Tencent is far bigger than Valve.


Tencent bought Riot correct?

edit: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2379503,00.asp

guess so

Tunga
Profile Joined August 2011
United States765 Posts
December 17 2012 23:04 GMT
#34064
On December 18 2012 07:57 Qbek wrote:
Ever heard of steam? Valve wins in every aspect


Ever heard of Tecent? They win in money, viewers, esports and success in term of MOBAs.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 17 2012 23:04 GMT
#34065
Tencent is pretty rich, also scumbag company.
WriterXiao8~~
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
December 17 2012 23:04 GMT
#34066
On December 18 2012 07:56 Depetrify wrote:
Which company is bigger, earns more, has a larger value.. Valve or Riot? I would assume Valve still, but Riot gets sooo many microtransactions and such. Just curious.... Riot is growing a ton faster though, right?

Don't know specifics, but Valve sure as hell has more standing legs right now.
Riot is a daughter of Tencent though, and I heard Tencent is pretty well standing company itself.

If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 23:05:48
December 17 2012 23:04 GMT
#34067
On December 18 2012 07:57 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 07:56 Depetrify wrote:
Which company is bigger, earns more, has a larger value.. Valve or Riot? I would assume Valve still, but Riot gets sooo many microtransactions and such. Just curious.... Riot is growing a ton faster though, right?

Riot is owned by Tencent, the third biggest Chinese company, or something like that. Tencent is far bigger than Valve.

Indeed tencent is bigger, but the question was Riot vs Valve. And i'd say solely based on steam, Valve would win against riot in terms of income. Steam is huge.

I also don't see riot doing too well some years ahead, the way they handle LoL just make it appear like they aren't going long-term with it, but what do i know, we'll see.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 23:14:06
December 17 2012 23:12 GMT
#34068
Quick Google Fu suggests Valve is worth 3 BILLION.
Wow.
Riot is worth 472 according to the linked article.

One has to consider though, that DotA 2 is only one of many games of Valve, while Riot is purely LoL and nothing else. So Dota part of Valve versus Riot? Riot wins hands down.
They have the casuals of the west in firm grip and I think 2-3 years headstart comparing LoL beta/release to Dota 2 beta.
Supposed to mean the grower is DotA 2, not LoL.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
December 17 2012 23:15 GMT
#34069
On December 18 2012 08:12 Mataza wrote:
Quick Google Fu suggests Valve is worth 3 BILLION.
Wow.
Riot is worth 472 according to the linked article.

One has to consider though, that DotA 2 is only one of many games of Valve, while Riot is purely LoL and nothing else. So Dota part of Valve versus Riot? Riot wins hands down.
They have the casuals of the west in firm grip and I think 2-3 years headstart comparing LoL beta/release to Dota 2 beta.
Supposed to mean the grower is DotA 2, not LoL.

Comparing Valve and Riot is like comparing Blizzard and Torchlight 2. For our purpose checking into DotA 2 vs LoL numbers in terms of revenue makes much more sense. I'm also pretty sure that would paint a rather depressing picture for most people. =P
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
December 17 2012 23:19 GMT
#34070
On December 18 2012 08:15 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 08:12 Mataza wrote:
Quick Google Fu suggests Valve is worth 3 BILLION.
Wow.
Riot is worth 472 according to the linked article.

One has to consider though, that DotA 2 is only one of many games of Valve, while Riot is purely LoL and nothing else. So Dota part of Valve versus Riot? Riot wins hands down.
They have the casuals of the west in firm grip and I think 2-3 years headstart comparing LoL beta/release to Dota 2 beta.
Supposed to mean the grower is DotA 2, not LoL.

Comparing Valve and Riot is like comparing Blizzard and Torchlight 2. For our purpose checking into DotA 2 vs LoL numbers in terms of revenue makes much more sense. I'm also pretty sure that would paint a rather depressing picture for most people. =P

I'm not sure who would be depressed, i don't think anybody expects DotA2 to outnumber LoL at the moment.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
December 17 2012 23:25 GMT
#34071
Trying to find a -cm game in low priority is worse than finding a needle in a haystack.
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
December 17 2012 23:26 GMT
#34072
Trying to find a CM game in general is pretty bad lol
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
December 17 2012 23:28 GMT
#34073
On December 18 2012 08:04 Kipsate wrote:
Tencent is pretty rich, also scumbag company.


what did they do that make them a scumbag company? or are you just a random hater.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
December 17 2012 23:30 GMT
#34074
On December 18 2012 08:28 aintz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 08:04 Kipsate wrote:
Tencent is pretty rich, also scumbag company.


what did they do that make them a scumbag company? or are you just a random hater.

Well, to mention recent doings, trashtalking DotA2 and Valve for no reason at all whilst spreading lies.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 17 2012 23:31 GMT
#34075
On December 18 2012 08:28 aintz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 08:04 Kipsate wrote:
Tencent is pretty rich, also scumbag company.


what did they do that make them a scumbag company? or are you just a random hater.

http://dotaland.net/2012/12/09/tencent-posts-an-article-on-qq-com-flaming-dota2-quickly-removes-it-but-not-before-dota-uuu9-com-posts-a-counter-flame/

amongst other things.
WriterXiao8~~
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
December 17 2012 23:37 GMT
#34076
On December 18 2012 08:28 aintz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 08:04 Kipsate wrote:
Tencent is pretty rich, also scumbag company.


what did they do that make them a scumbag company? or are you just a random hater.


Tencent is the chinese version of EA. Better, Faster, Stronger.
High Risk Low Reward
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 23:39:45
December 17 2012 23:39 GMT
#34077
Tencent may be bigger than Valve (although not by a lot), but Tencent does a whole lot more than games. The games division of Tencent, and specifically Riot, is significantly smaller than Valve.

It doesn't really matter in a situation where one party will play dirty and the other won't.
Once you Goblak...
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
December 17 2012 23:45 GMT
#34078
On December 18 2012 08:31 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 08:28 aintz wrote:
On December 18 2012 08:04 Kipsate wrote:
Tencent is pretty rich, also scumbag company.


what did they do that make them a scumbag company? or are you just a random hater.

http://dotaland.net/2012/12/09/tencent-posts-an-article-on-qq-com-flaming-dota2-quickly-removes-it-but-not-before-dota-uuu9-com-posts-a-counter-flame/

amongst other things.


some failboat writer probably wrote that article. fabricating stuff about the competition is very low, atleast the other people at the company realized that and removed it.

hopefully valve moves faster with dota2. its been more than 2 years since TI 1 and the game is still not "f2p"
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
December 17 2012 23:46 GMT
#34079
On December 18 2012 08:45 aintz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 08:31 Kipsate wrote:
On December 18 2012 08:28 aintz wrote:
On December 18 2012 08:04 Kipsate wrote:
Tencent is pretty rich, also scumbag company.


what did they do that make them a scumbag company? or are you just a random hater.

http://dotaland.net/2012/12/09/tencent-posts-an-article-on-qq-com-flaming-dota2-quickly-removes-it-but-not-before-dota-uuu9-com-posts-a-counter-flame/

amongst other things.


some failboat writer probably wrote that article. fabricating stuff about the competition is very low, atleast the other people at the company realized that and removed it.

hopefully valve moves faster with dota2. its been more than 2 years since TI 1 and the game is still not "f2p"
More than 2 years?

-.-
Once you Goblak...
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
December 17 2012 23:56 GMT
#34080
On December 18 2012 08:46 teapoted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 08:45 aintz wrote:
On December 18 2012 08:31 Kipsate wrote:
On December 18 2012 08:28 aintz wrote:
On December 18 2012 08:04 Kipsate wrote:
Tencent is pretty rich, also scumbag company.


what did they do that make them a scumbag company? or are you just a random hater.

http://dotaland.net/2012/12/09/tencent-posts-an-article-on-qq-com-flaming-dota2-quickly-removes-it-but-not-before-dota-uuu9-com-posts-a-counter-flame/

amongst other things.


some failboat writer probably wrote that article. fabricating stuff about the competition is very low, atleast the other people at the company realized that and removed it.

hopefully valve moves faster with dota2. its been more than 2 years since TI 1 and the game is still not "f2p"
More than 2 years?

-.-


more than a year*

so much prize money already been given away and the game hasnt even been fully released in NA and EU, seems odd from a business perspective.
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