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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
On December 18 2012 07:56 Depetrify wrote: Which company is bigger, earns more, has a larger value.. Valve or Riot? I would assume Valve still, but Riot gets sooo many microtransactions and such. Just curious.... Riot is growing a ton faster though, right? Riot is owned by Tencent, the third biggest Chinese company, or something like that. Tencent is far bigger than Valve. | ||
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Depetrify
978 Posts
On December 18 2012 07:57 cecek wrote: Riot is owned by Tencent, the third biggest Chinese company, or something like that. Tencent is far bigger than Valve. Tencent bought Riot correct? edit: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2379503,00.asp guess so | ||
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Tunga
United States765 Posts
On December 18 2012 07:57 Qbek wrote: Ever heard of steam? Valve wins in every aspect Ever heard of Tecent? They win in money, viewers, esports and success in term of MOBAs. | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On December 18 2012 07:56 Depetrify wrote: Which company is bigger, earns more, has a larger value.. Valve or Riot? I would assume Valve still, but Riot gets sooo many microtransactions and such. Just curious.... Riot is growing a ton faster though, right? Don't know specifics, but Valve sure as hell has more standing legs right now. Riot is a daughter of Tencent though, and I heard Tencent is pretty well standing company itself. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On December 18 2012 07:57 cecek wrote: Riot is owned by Tencent, the third biggest Chinese company, or something like that. Tencent is far bigger than Valve. Indeed tencent is bigger, but the question was Riot vs Valve. And i'd say solely based on steam, Valve would win against riot in terms of income. Steam is huge. I also don't see riot doing too well some years ahead, the way they handle LoL just make it appear like they aren't going long-term with it, but what do i know, we'll see. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
Wow. Riot is worth 472 according to the linked article. One has to consider though, that DotA 2 is only one of many games of Valve, while Riot is purely LoL and nothing else. So Dota part of Valve versus Riot? Riot wins hands down. They have the casuals of the west in firm grip and I think 2-3 years headstart comparing LoL beta/release to Dota 2 beta. Supposed to mean the grower is DotA 2, not LoL. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
On December 18 2012 08:12 Mataza wrote: Quick Google Fu suggests Valve is worth 3 BILLION. Wow. Riot is worth 472 according to the linked article. One has to consider though, that DotA 2 is only one of many games of Valve, while Riot is purely LoL and nothing else. So Dota part of Valve versus Riot? Riot wins hands down. They have the casuals of the west in firm grip and I think 2-3 years headstart comparing LoL beta/release to Dota 2 beta. Supposed to mean the grower is DotA 2, not LoL. Comparing Valve and Riot is like comparing Blizzard and Torchlight 2. For our purpose checking into DotA 2 vs LoL numbers in terms of revenue makes much more sense. I'm also pretty sure that would paint a rather depressing picture for most people. =P | ||
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Denmark14978 Posts
On December 18 2012 08:15 r.Evo wrote: Comparing Valve and Riot is like comparing Blizzard and Torchlight 2. For our purpose checking into DotA 2 vs LoL numbers in terms of revenue makes much more sense. I'm also pretty sure that would paint a rather depressing picture for most people. =P I'm not sure who would be depressed, i don't think anybody expects DotA2 to outnumber LoL at the moment. | ||
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greggy
United Kingdom1483 Posts
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Resilient
United Kingdom1431 Posts
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
On December 18 2012 08:04 Kipsate wrote: Tencent is pretty rich, also scumbag company. what did they do that make them a scumbag company? or are you just a random hater. | ||
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Denmark14978 Posts
On December 18 2012 08:28 aintz wrote: what did they do that make them a scumbag company? or are you just a random hater. Well, to mention recent doings, trashtalking DotA2 and Valve for no reason at all whilst spreading lies. | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On December 18 2012 08:28 aintz wrote: what did they do that make them a scumbag company? or are you just a random hater. http://dotaland.net/2012/12/09/tencent-posts-an-article-on-qq-com-flaming-dota2-quickly-removes-it-but-not-before-dota-uuu9-com-posts-a-counter-flame/ amongst other things. | ||
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
On December 18 2012 08:28 aintz wrote: what did they do that make them a scumbag company? or are you just a random hater. Tencent is the chinese version of EA. Better, Faster, Stronger. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
It doesn't really matter in a situation where one party will play dirty and the other won't. | ||
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
On December 18 2012 08:31 Kipsate wrote: http://dotaland.net/2012/12/09/tencent-posts-an-article-on-qq-com-flaming-dota2-quickly-removes-it-but-not-before-dota-uuu9-com-posts-a-counter-flame/ amongst other things. some failboat writer probably wrote that article. fabricating stuff about the competition is very low, atleast the other people at the company realized that and removed it. hopefully valve moves faster with dota2. its been more than 2 years since TI 1 and the game is still not "f2p" | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
On December 18 2012 08:45 aintz wrote: More than 2 years?some failboat writer probably wrote that article. fabricating stuff about the competition is very low, atleast the other people at the company realized that and removed it. hopefully valve moves faster with dota2. its been more than 2 years since TI 1 and the game is still not "f2p" -.- | ||
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
more than a year* so much prize money already been given away and the game hasnt even been fully released in NA and EU, seems odd from a business perspective. | ||
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