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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 18:12:48
December 17 2012 18:12 GMT
#34041
I already do that tho. Its kind of like how piccolo from DBZ trains, he puts on a ton of weight and spars with goku. Except instead of weight training I put family guy on my dual screen and watch while I play.

so when I turn family guy off I am suddenly x4 gosu.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Veriol
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic502 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 18:49:46
December 17 2012 18:40 GMT
#34042
Guys when the team is introduced I made one with my friends. Is there way we can queue as team vs team?

Edit: just noticed the find a team match option but its grey(not clickable) for me does it mean it has not been implemented yet?
"When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape." -iloveoov
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 17 2012 19:00 GMT
#34043
On December 18 2012 03:40 Veriol wrote:
Guys when the team is introduced I made one with my friends. Is there way we can queue as team vs team?

Edit: just noticed the find a team match option but its grey(not clickable) for me does it mean it has not been implemented yet?

Formal team queues aren't in yet, but if you queue as a 5-stack, matchmaking already generally tries to pair you with other 5-stacks.
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aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
December 17 2012 19:00 GMT
#34044
On December 18 2012 03:40 Veriol wrote:
Guys when the team is introduced I made one with my friends. Is there way we can queue as team vs team?

Edit: just noticed the find a team match option but its grey(not clickable) for me does it mean it has not been implemented yet?


best option right now is just to find scrims with other teams though forums/chats etc.
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 20:09:09
December 17 2012 20:08 GMT
#34045
The problem with the rubick pull scenario is that you're already investing in our solo jugg (in our hypothetical scenario): a PMS (already 550), a Quelling Blade (225) as well as a combination of regen and maybe gg branches (adding up to ~300 for tangos+salve+maybe 2 branches). At this point when a hero uses his own money and has to be pooled another ~550 gold for almost 1100 starting gold you have to wonder if the end really justifies the means. At this point I would just get Axe or something instead of trying to make solo jugg work.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 20:16:26
December 17 2012 20:15 GMT
#34046
If you really need the armor a RoP would be far more cost efficient than buying agility (doesn't give you the damage though). That armor isn't actually going to do much for you and is completely unneeded. if you want more ehp you should probably be buying str for hit points. You also don't need a quelling blade to last hit under tower. It is harder when you have to attack twice, but since you know you need to attack twice it isn't that challenging. Being able to survive an aggressive trilane while you're last hitting under tower is another story, but that is just lineup dependent and starting items aren't going to do much for you.

Can easily start Stout (250), salve (100), tango (90), branchx2 (106). You'll probably need another tango which somebody can pool you though.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
December 17 2012 20:29 GMT
#34047
Lol luna + vs + drow stack is nuts.

So much damage early on.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
December 17 2012 21:03 GMT
#34048
Juggernaut can also just bladefury under the tower to clear creeps provided he has some form of mana regen
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
December 17 2012 21:51 GMT
#34049
If you're playing a carry and your lane partners competes with you for last-hits, is it ok to tell them to stop and focus more on denying/harassing? I see this all the time in my games (low level of course) but I never see anyone make an issue of it. I'm not very good and I definitely can't hit every one so I feel sort of guilty. Also might lead to unnecessary flaming. Or maybe in low-level pubs it doesn't matter that much anyways?
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
December 17 2012 21:53 GMT
#34050
On December 18 2012 06:51 B1nary wrote:
If you're playing a carry and your lane partners competes with you for last-hits, is it ok to tell them to stop and focus more on denying/harassing? I see this all the time in my games (low level of course) but I never see anyone make an issue of it. I'm not very good and I definitely can't hit every one so I feel sort of guilty. Also might lead to unnecessary flaming. Or maybe in low-level pubs it doesn't matter that much anyways?


its just something you have to deal with in low level games sadly. people either don't understand the concept of letting a carry farm or the concept of last hits in the first place :S. Usually i ask once to 'stop attack creep' or 'let me farm' etc and if they continue its not worth the antagonism within the team to carry the argument any further. just think of it as extra practice to last hitting
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
December 17 2012 21:53 GMT
#34051
Ask politely, I stress politely, and either they ignore you (tough luck) , they oblige (cool) or start flaming (report them). I'm fortunate enough to be past that MMR but asking politely can work wonders on very level of play
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
December 17 2012 21:59 GMT
#34052
On December 18 2012 06:51 B1nary wrote:
If you're playing a carry and your lane partners competes with you for last-hits, is it ok to tell them to stop and focus more on denying/harassing? I see this all the time in my games (low level of course) but I never see anyone make an issue of it. I'm not very good and I definitely can't hit every one so I feel sort of guilty. Also might lead to unnecessary flaming. Or maybe in low-level pubs it doesn't matter that much anyways?

In low-level pubs the support won't understand what you mean. They're probably just at the point where they understand not to auto-attack.
Also if you are getting out-lasthit by your support, yeah, you shouldn't be complaining (there are a few exceptions on heroes with low as hell base damage like Naga but for the most part carries have higher damage and better animations than their supports). It's ok for them to have some farm, especially in those low level pub games because it makes it harder for them to feed/get ganked by the solo mid over and over if they have a bracer or some hp items.
It's not ok if they don't buy a courier/wards/bird and rush a dagon without boots, but that's a different story. I would count getting a flying courier as being lucky at that level of play, let alone wards. (Basically as long as they aren't spending it on completely useless items like a pipe vs an all physical damage team they are probably going to be more useful with those last-hits than otherwise).

So basically no, it doesn't matter in the level of pub you're referring to. They could make more gold off of pulling but good luck explaining that to them, and if you can't out last-hit the majority of supports with the majority of carries you should be working on your last-hits rather than arguing with them (which yes, almost always descends into flamewars).
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
December 17 2012 22:09 GMT
#34053
Get a qb, when you got all last hits at 3min, tell him to stop wasting his time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
December 17 2012 22:15 GMT
#34054
I'm pretty good with last hitting I think, but I often see guys do the "stop/s" command and just stand around and wait to hit. I guess that's with the auto attack option on.

I also have the auto attack option on, but instead I move around and then right click to attack.

How do you guys do it?
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
December 17 2012 22:16 GMT
#34055
On December 18 2012 07:09 Erasme wrote:
Get a qb, when you got all last hits at 3min, tell him to stop wasting his time

I've had supports meta me and start with a QB. >_> Was feeling pretty stupid with my Stout Shield.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 17 2012 22:20 GMT
#34056
Found a Captains mode game. Whole team speaking Spanish or Portuguese
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
December 17 2012 22:23 GMT
#34057
On December 18 2012 07:20 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Found a Captains mode game. Whole team speaking Spanish or Portuguese

Queue CM as 4. The random captain is retarded. :C
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 17 2012 22:27 GMT
#34058
On December 18 2012 07:23 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 07:20 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Found a Captains mode game. Whole team speaking Spanish or Portuguese

Queue CM as 4. The random captain is retarded. :C


Nah they got captain. I think they know a bit of English though so it's working out decent enough.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
December 17 2012 22:29 GMT
#34059
On December 18 2012 07:16 ChrisXIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 07:09 Erasme wrote:
Get a qb, when you got all last hits at 3min, tell him to stop wasting his time

I've had supports meta me and start with a QB. >_> Was feeling pretty stupid with my Stout Shield.

ck/sven/tiny/void all the way til they stop then :p
and start with a qb if you're sure it's a 2v1 lane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Depetrify
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
978 Posts
December 17 2012 22:56 GMT
#34060
Which company is bigger, earns more, has a larger value.. Valve or Riot? I would assume Valve still, but Riot gets sooo many microtransactions and such. Just curious.... Riot is growing a ton faster though, right?
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