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Fwizzz
Philippines4420 Posts
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unkkz
Norway2196 Posts
On December 14 2012 00:07 ReignSupreme. wrote: Such horrible advice~ I'm still getting paired with the people you described yet I play support 80% of the time, just make sure you use appropriate ward spots and are fast to ping, can babysit games 2ez. Example game: https://dotabuff.com/matches/77521217 Look at that goddamn line up. I literally spent the first minute telling my teammate's they were retarded. Now look at that PL farm. Now look at who got the victory. 1hour game and the PL farm is nothing impressive for a pub... i get like 600 gpm minimum playing furion to get out of the shitbracket. Yeah u can play support but its very frustrating and tiresome trying to hold the hands of stupid people telling them what to do every single step of the way. Half the time they don´t listen to you no matter what and feed into oblivion. Playing the carry yourself is still a safer way to get the win. Had you played a carry instead of support tide im sure you'd won faster. One thing i can say however is that there is never any initiation in shitbracket, so that is one thing that can simply help tons like you playing tide here. Out of 100 games or so i can count the instances on one hand were an initiating hero actually bought a blink dagger. Mostly is Axe's and tide's trying to run in and they simply accomplish nothing. | ||
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Makenshi
Sweden2105 Posts
On December 14 2012 00:07 ReignSupreme. wrote: Such horrible advice~ I'm still getting paired with the people you described yet I play support 80% of the time, just make sure you use appropriate ward spots and are fast to ping, can babysit games 2ez. Example game: https://dotabuff.com/matches/77521217 Look at that goddamn line up. I literally spent the first minute telling my teammate's they were retarded. Now look at that PL farm. Now look at who got the victory. was that game an inhouse? or was it just an incredible coincidence that there was an omelette in each team? lol | ||
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
On December 14 2012 00:18 Makenshi wrote: was that game an inhouse? or was it just an incredible coincidence that there was an omelette in each team? lol Pub, the om1ette or whatever wasn't called that during the game, must have changed alias after. No idea what the go is there | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On December 13 2012 23:36 wherebugsgo wrote: if someone can help me troubleshoot dota (wc3 dota) please PM me. I patched WC3 and when I join a dota game, as it's about to launch I get sent back into the chat lobby/main battle.net screen. You have the correct map version/correct folder ? | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
I usually go PMS, Wand, Phase, Vlads, Deso and then S&Y. Most of my games end by then, but if it goes on, I obviously replace PMS and Wand with situational stuff (BKB, Rapier, etc.) Anyway, my question is, should I be going Manta instead of S&Y? | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On December 14 2012 00:58 trinxified wrote: So quick question regarding item preference for BH. I usually go PMS, Wand, Phase, Vlads, Deso and then S&Y. Most of my games end by then, but if it goes on, I obviously replace PMS and Wand with situational stuff (BKB, Rapier, etc.) Anyway, my question is, should I be going Manta instead of S&Y? My item build for BH is Medalion, phase, wand , bottle, get mithtril hammer and evaluate whether you need BKB or can go Deso. I don't really think you need either S&Y or Manta, just go MKB for maximum damage(especially good agianst WR | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
ow wait  Back to drums BKB deso/abyssal. Manta can also be great. | ||
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
On December 14 2012 00:58 trinxified wrote: So quick question regarding item preference for BH. I usually go PMS, Wand, Phase, Vlads, Deso and then S&Y. Most of my games end by then, but if it goes on, I obviously replace PMS and Wand with situational stuff (BKB, Rapier, etc.) Anyway, my question is, should I be going Manta instead of S&Y? It's a good item build if you replace S&Y with BKB. I would go deso -> bkb -> vlads if you have a great game and vlads -> bkb -> deso if you have a not so great game. | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
On December 14 2012 01:07 DrPandaPhD wrote: It's a good item build if you replace S&Y with BKB. I would go deso -> bkb -> vlads if you have a great game and vlads -> bkb -> deso if you have a not so great game. I go for the Vlads because of the easy transition to regen items I would need along the way. I tend to skip the Bottle/Medallion. | ||
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
On December 14 2012 01:08 trinxified wrote: I go for the Vlads because of the easy transition to regen items I would need along the way. I tend to skip the Bottle/Medallion. Yeah as I said, if you have an average game you should probably go the second item build with vlads first. But there is no reason not to rush a deso if you have a good game to snowball out of control early. Similar to TA, if you have a good game, go blink -> deso / crit. Otherwise go Blink -> bkb. | ||
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RuskiPanda
United States2906 Posts
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
On December 14 2012 00:58 trinxified wrote: So quick question regarding item preference for BH. I usually go PMS, Wand, Phase, Vlads, Deso and then S&Y. Most of my games end by then, but if it goes on, I obviously replace PMS and Wand with situational stuff (BKB, Rapier, etc.) Anyway, my question is, should I be going Manta instead of S&Y? phase, drums, bkb/deso depends on game which to get first. and of course a magic stick unless they have no casters for some reasons. dont get s&y. and please god dont get a bottle unless ur going to be active with it, so many noobs get a bottle because they see the progamers do it, its ultra sad. | ||
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Onioncookie
Germany624 Posts
Im so buying that | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On December 14 2012 01:21 aintz wrote:please god dont get a bottle unless ur going to be active with it, so many noobs get a bottle because they see the progamers do it, its ultra sad. Eh.... I'd rather people err on the side of getting bottle than not (at least on bounty). He desperately needs the regen, and its only 600 gold (1 track kill). It is better than all the people who rush vlads for actual no reason. I mean, even if you only ever fill bottle from base it is decent IMO. | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
On December 14 2012 01:21 aintz wrote: phase, drums, bkb/deso depends on game which to get first. and of course a magic stick unless they have no casters for some reasons. dont get s&y. and please god dont get a bottle unless ur going to be active with it, so many noobs get a bottle because they see the progamers do it, its ultra sad. I don't get the bottle either, very rare unless I have to mid lane. I don't understand the drums choice, I guess for the Bracer transition? I find that I don't need bracers in the first place. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On December 14 2012 01:33 trinxified wrote: I don't get the bottle either, very rare unless I have to mid lane. I don't understand the drums choice, I guess for the Bracer transition? I find that I don't need bracers in the first place. Drums gives nice HP and nice mana, both things BH benefits from. Ontop of that the bonus movement speed synergizes with tracks and allows you to make sure you outspeed anyone along with helping your team as well. Drums are good on BH. | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
Drums seems like a slow transition. But worth a shot. | ||
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