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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 17 2012 18:59 GMT
#30121
We actually had a fun lina/slark lane against kotl disruptor and wrecked face. Was really unexpected. Anyway he's a fun hero, i like the pounce more than anything.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
November 17 2012 19:03 GMT
#30122
Slark is good hero but he probably can't do much when someone went for jungling luna.

He is a hero like meepo, so much fun to play if the opponent didn't pick the whole team to counter him.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
November 17 2012 20:32 GMT
#30123
Slark is godlike in pubs wtf are you saying. He sucks when people throw sentries everywhere, but in low level pubs he's godlike, as he has an invisibility that is much harder to counter compared to riki or gond or whatever.

Also Eth blade sniper <<<< Bfury Sniper bro.
Seen as G.ZZZ [COPPER SCUM] on Steam
AlanLenny
Profile Joined November 2012
2 Posts
November 17 2012 20:50 GMT
#30124
Can anyone please tell me what are (if any) some of Dota 2 weakness / popular complaints?
In StarCraft 2 some people complain mostly about unit-imbalance, unit design, UI, lack of BW/WC3 features (LAN, clans, chat, auto tournaments, etc), and game performance. I've never played Dota 2 and I wonder if there are any popular "QQ" subjects.
Thanks!
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
November 17 2012 20:54 GMT
#30125
popular qq subjects are the community itself. Very caustic.
The learning curve is one of the steepest you'll ever experience.
There are many exceptions and not so obvious mechanics. It's a bit like french
That's about it I guess
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
November 17 2012 20:56 GMT
#30126
And people who have no idea of what makes a hero balanced love to whine about X or Y thing being imbalanced.

Ursa 2 stronk guys
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
November 17 2012 20:57 GMT
#30127
Centaur OP, I can provide graphs
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Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
November 17 2012 20:59 GMT
#30128
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
November 17 2012 21:08 GMT
#30129
On November 18 2012 05:50 AlanLenny wrote:
Can anyone please tell me what are (if any) some of Dota 2 weakness / popular complaints?
In StarCraft 2 some people complain mostly about unit-imbalance, unit design, UI, lack of BW/WC3 features (LAN, clans, chat, auto tournaments, etc), and game performance. I've never played Dota 2 and I wonder if there are any popular "QQ" subjects.
Thanks!

None of those things are in Dota 2. Well, maybe a bit of unit-imbalance (lol centaur, drow, and sven is quickly coming onto this list too), but the UI and BW/WC3 features you mention (LAN is yet to implemented, but clans/chat/auto tournaments/spectator mode/auto replays/etc) are all pretty much the envy of every other game out there.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
November 17 2012 21:08 GMT
#30130
Games being too long is an issue as well, and the cause of many of the other QQ worthy problems. Wasting 30-60mins is much worse than wasting 5-15mins.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
November 17 2012 21:18 GMT
#30131
On November 18 2012 05:50 AlanLenny wrote:
Can anyone please tell me what are (if any) some of Dota 2 weakness / popular complaints?
In StarCraft 2 some people complain mostly about unit-imbalance, unit design, UI, lack of BW/WC3 features (LAN, clans, chat, auto tournaments, etc), and game performance. I've never played Dota 2 and I wonder if there are any popular "QQ" subjects.
Thanks!


What complaints and what imbalances, I'm sorry but we have icefrog. D
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
November 17 2012 21:19 GMT
#30132
On November 18 2012 05:50 AlanLenny wrote:
Can anyone please tell me what are (if any) some of Dota 2 weakness / popular complaints?
In StarCraft 2 some people complain mostly about unit-imbalance, unit design, UI, lack of BW/WC3 features (LAN, clans, chat, auto tournaments, etc), and game performance. I've never played Dota 2 and I wonder if there are any popular "QQ" subjects.
Thanks!

In terms of the game itself, it's probably the learning curve, it's very hard game to approach for people new to the genre or gaming in general. Partially due to the amount of necessary memorization/experience, but also the fact that you're very much punished for your mistakes, which is probably quite daunting to new players. This could be alleviated somewhat by implementing some form of tutorials / learning mode / mentoring system.

Another thing is spectator accessibility, some games are intuitive enough for the uneducated spectator being able to enjoy it, I don't think DotA is one of them, even with help from the commentators. Then there are the polarizing topics of visible rankings and the concede/surrender option and the slower pace compared to HoN, but there is no clear consensus there. Also worthy of mention are more game modes (ar/dm/lod), map editor for community made maps, integrated tournaments and the the few missing heroes.

While I listed quite a few things, I don't think people are anywhere near as unsatisfied as the SC2 community seems to be with blizzard, I for one trust valve.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
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grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
November 17 2012 21:22 GMT
#30133
On November 18 2012 05:50 AlanLenny wrote:
Can anyone please tell me what are (if any) some of Dota 2 weakness / popular complaints?
In StarCraft 2 some people complain mostly about unit-imbalance, unit design, UI, lack of BW/WC3 features (LAN, clans, chat, auto tournaments, etc), and game performance. I've never played Dota 2 and I wonder if there are any popular "QQ" subjects.
Thanks!

Most qq thing seems to be "all my teammates suck, so I lose" and its variant "matchmaking sucks and always pairs me up with the worst players".
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
November 17 2012 21:24 GMT
#30134
On November 18 2012 05:50 AlanLenny wrote:
Can anyone please tell me what are (if any) some of Dota 2 weakness / popular complaints?
In StarCraft 2 some people complain mostly about unit-imbalance, unit design, UI, lack of BW/WC3 features (LAN, clans, chat, auto tournaments, etc), and game performance. I've never played Dota 2 and I wonder if there are any popular "QQ" subjects.
Thanks!

This is the most popular complaint in dota2

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Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
November 17 2012 21:33 GMT
#30135
On November 18 2012 06:22 grs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 05:50 AlanLenny wrote:
Can anyone please tell me what are (if any) some of Dota 2 weakness / popular complaints?
In StarCraft 2 some people complain mostly about unit-imbalance, unit design, UI, lack of BW/WC3 features (LAN, clans, chat, auto tournaments, etc), and game performance. I've never played Dota 2 and I wonder if there are any popular "QQ" subjects.
Thanks!

Most qq thing seems to be "all my teammates suck, so I lose" and its variant "matchmaking sucks and always pairs me up with the worst players".

A manifestation of the players high external locus of control, a much too common occurrence.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
TL+ Member
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
November 17 2012 21:53 GMT
#30136
I recommend you guys play clockwerk. Haven't had so much fun getting stomped in a LONG time
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
November 17 2012 21:55 GMT
#30137
On November 18 2012 06:53 Qbek wrote:
I recommend you guys play clockwerk. Haven't had so much fun getting stomped in a LONG time

MrHoon supports your statement.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 17 2012 21:57 GMT
#30138
To be fair MrHoon is a good hooker.
WriterXiao8~~
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
November 17 2012 21:59 GMT
#30139
On November 18 2012 06:57 Kipsate wrote:
To be fair MrHoon is a good hooker.

how much?
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
November 17 2012 22:01 GMT
#30140
Nyx walks by a random sentry? Gets hooked from 2500 range and dies
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