EPTThe Tanky DPS 1H+Shield Barbarian - Page 7
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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TheRealArtemis
687 Posts
imo barbs have always been popular in co-op. A barb with warcry that can keep all the nasty mobs that one shots you, away from you is still a good ally to have. Edit: and seeing how rangen DH and Wiz have to kite alot vs the monster lvl 10, a good barb is nice to have. but the stormshields have to be good. imo its a waste of gold if you bought under 29% and without the str, vit, %life and res all. | ||
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Gotmog
Serbia899 Posts
what kind of stats and spec do i need for him specifically ? I have 1k + resists, 18-20k dps, 40-50k hp...but no lifesteal. | ||
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icyF
Finland305 Posts
On September 24 2012 02:59 Gotmog wrote: I got to diablo on inferno, and can't seem to be able to deal with him.... what kind of stats and spec do i need for him specifically ? I have 1k + resists, 18-20k dps, 40-50k hp...but no lifesteal. What's your EHP and your skill build? Link your character, please. | ||
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ArC_man
United States2798 Posts
On September 24 2012 02:59 Gotmog wrote: I got to diablo on inferno, and can't seem to be able to deal with him.... what kind of stats and spec do i need for him specifically ? I have 1k + resists, 18-20k dps, 40-50k hp...but no lifesteal. Against Diablo it's better to drop some DPS in favor of LoH to sustain. If you have something like 600+ LoH even with 10k dps the fight will be a breeze. | ||
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Gotmog
Serbia899 Posts
Thank you, life steal did the job :D | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
a week ago you can get a ss with 10% life and 32+% block for less than 5m. | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kazeyonoma-1662/hero/14226 | ||
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Heckster
United States5 Posts
I have been trying to play this style for awhile and was wondering what I should upgrade next. I am able to solo diablo in inferno and only have trouble against some elite packs and affix combinations. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Heckster-1984/hero/818134 Thank you for the advice! | ||
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alexnos
Romania32 Posts
I've been farming A3 comfortably and am looking for the next upgrade and i can't decide on what needs upgrading first. If some with more exp can tell me it would be much appreciated. http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NOS-2628/hero/1665858 I know i need movement speed,that is next,but i want to go all out on dps while keeping my shield. | ||
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bruteMax
Canada339 Posts
On September 24 2012 17:10 alexnos wrote: hi there, I've been farming A3 comfortably and am looking for the next upgrade and i can't decide on what needs upgrading first. If some with more exp can tell me it would be much appreciated. http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NOS-2628/hero/1665858 I know i need movement speed,that is next,but i want to go all out on dps while keeping my shield. You certainly seem tanky enough. I'll throw in my 2 cents by suggesting you should first look to upgrade your weapon. I'm on the NA server but I'm sure a 1hand axe/mace with more str and vit and higher dps can be had for a few million. Do you find you need the LoH and life steal? Also have you considered dropping WotB? Try replacing it with Sprint:Marathon to get the movement speed you're looking for. Boots with 12% movement speed plus the stats you already have cost many millions.  Remember Trang's advice on max'ing stats on gear. With that in mind I think your chest and pants are possible areas for upgrades to your vit. | ||
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TheRealArtemis
687 Posts
On September 24 2012 09:36 Kazeyonoma wrote: switched to 'tanky dps' in preparation of 1.0.5. i know i'm wearing a lot of 'ww style' gear still, but i seem to be doing okay in act 3 and act 4, any advice? http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kazeyonoma-1662/hero/14226 Personally I wouldnt use "frenzy-sidearm" I never understood the use of this rune. You allready have alot of AoE damege from rend and revenge, so you might as well choose the rune that gives alot more dps. - Maniac. If you're farming act 3 without dying, or rarely dying, I would also switch out one of your armor passives. Use weapon master for that ekstra 10% crit chance. With that Axe you got, you will hit almost 35% which is quite nice. See if you can spare the one that gives you the least amount of armor. But you dont really have that much vit, hp or % life. If you started to stack those alot more, those armor passives wont even be missed. But regarding upgrades, maybe your gloves. they dont have anything that gives you more hp (if you're aming for that dps tanking barb) It wouldnt hurt to got 1-2% down in crit chance to gain alot more str, vit and all res, and/or attack speed. Pants need sockets, but im sure you know. You can also find some shoulders that gives you the same stats, but with 100 vit more. on AH for cheap gold. But thats on EU. On September 24 2012 10:43 Heckster wrote: Hello TL! I have been trying to play this style for awhile and was wondering what I should upgrade next. I am able to solo diablo in inferno and only have trouble against some elite packs and affix combinations. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Heckster-1984/hero/818134 Thank you for the advice! Well, like many other that shield need to go. it got nice stats, but you cant keep it. ^^ try to find a shield in your price range that got as close to 29-30% block chance. Try also to find one that got as much %life and vit as possible, with all res offcause. If you're not to keen on switching shield just yet, you need to get some more all res. 400 unbuffed is way to little for a tank. whenever you buy items, make sure they always have 70-80% all res. There are items where below 70% all res is okay. like legens, rings, amulets. Gettin 70% allres on those iterms while having good stats are either imposssible to find, or too expensive. But you're on the right track. You could go through your items on the AH, and see which of them you can upgrade for cheap. Alot of items have dropped in price since the patch. | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/trinxified-1614/hero/2139049 I'm quite strong already, so WotB is kinda a useless skill at the moment. Overpower - Crushing Advance let's me tank those suiciders more effectively and also get extra AoE damage. With my high crit chance, I can reset the cooldown very quickly. It's even going to get better in patch 1.05 when Rend is "kinda" buffed, and Overpower with less cooldown. I'm currently still trying to slowly improve my EHP and DPS all at the same time, so it's a work in progress. Getting hard now as items aren't being posted up on the AH, and it's harder to sell too. | ||
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Trang
Australia324 Posts
 I hope that through this thread, I have at least introduced you guys to taking a holistic approach to building your character, where you clearly identify your goals and how to measure meeting those goals, and use a strong understanding of game mechanics to build towards that. There are a handful of good posters now in this thread who I'm sure can keep the discussion on the Tanky Barb going, as I'm sure there will be more of us Tanky Barbs the closer we get to PvP. All the best, and bye for now Trang | ||
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Gatsbizzle
United States132 Posts
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jetburger
United States87 Posts
But anyway I'm hoping you guys can take a look at what I've got so far and suggest some skill and gear tweaks. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/sblubs-1555/hero/5286892 Not sure if I calculated it right, but I think I have around 900k EHP, I'm trying to farm act 3 SeigeBreaker/Cyd/Azmo. I died about 5 to 7 times in the whole run. I think right now I can just barely facetank Azmodan and kill him just as the 1st wave of black pools fades away, but I am on the edge of death for a good 10 seconds during that fight. I really love my life leech which is why I have almost 6% in gear and I'm using Bloodthirst. But if you guys tell me that it's inefficient I will change it. Gear-wise is there anything I could upgrade for around 500k-1M per piece? I'm willing to spend more if the improvement is really worth it, I guess Also, I know this is a no-no, but I am actually using Leap-Iron Impact constantly as part of my tanking prowess. And I have died a couple of times due to not being able to escape when I needed to leap out because of cooldown. As Gatsbizzle said, sorry to see you go, Trang, and hope to see you back soon. | ||
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icyF
Finland305 Posts
On September 26 2012 04:01 jetburger wrote: Why oh why did I wait so long before switching over to this style of play??? Just last night I made the switch, spending 1.5M on 3 pieces of gear. It's so much more efficient and less frustrating than my old style of play (which was a Sprint variant that used Furious Charge-Merciless Assault instead of WW). But anyway I'm hoping you guys can take a look at what I've got so far and suggest some skill and gear tweaks. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/sblubs-1555/hero/5286892 Not sure if I calculated it right, but I think I have around 900k EHP, I'm trying to farm act 3 SeigeBreaker/Cyd/Azmo. I died about 5 to 7 times in the whole run. I think right now I can just barely facetank Azmodan and kill him just as the 1st wave of black pools fades away, but I am on the edge of death for a good 10 seconds during that fight. I really love my life leech which is why I have almost 6% in gear and I'm using Bloodthirst. But if you guys tell me that it's inefficient I will change it. Gear-wise is there anything I could upgrade for around 500k-1M per piece? I'm willing to spend more if the improvement is really worth it, I guess Also, I know this is a no-no, but I am actually using Leap-Iron Impact constantly as part of my tanking prowess. And I have died a couple of times due to not being able to escape when I needed to leap out because of cooldown. As Gatsbizzle said, sorry to see you go, Trang, and hope to see you back soon. First I would recommend switching either Battle Rage or WotB for Revenge with Provocation. That should give you much more survivability, while also giving you a good chunk of AoE damage. Try it out before you start upgrading your items. First thing I spot needing an upgrade is the shield. 200+ str and vit is good, but a block chance of 27% or more should boost your EHP even with significantly lower str and vit. A Stormshield would be ideal with 32+ block, but those are pricey so search for a sacred shield with decent stats and a good amount of block chance. Also a decent Helm of Command with a socket can be bought for less than 1m, giving you even more block chance. You can get a better chest and pants for less than 1m. Here you could try maximising the attribute slots, as both can give up to 300 vit. So aim for something with 200+ (250+ is ideal) vit, 2-3 sockets, and some str or all res. Those are the easiest/cheapest upgrades that I can spot. After these try upgrading you boots and rings. Remember to check with your EHP calculator how much gain you get from every upgrade before buying. And f.e. here you can find the max values each slot can give. Those should get you started. Have fun! | ||
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jetburger
United States87 Posts
-changed Battle Rage to Revenge-Provocation -bought 32%block Stormshield for 1M (I didn't know I could get it for this price!) -bought new chest and pants for about 500k total Using a proper EHP calculator, my new EHP is 1.3 million reliable and 1.5 million EHP unreliable but this doesn't include the significantly improved block %. Doing the same Seige/Cyd/Azmo run once more, I still died about 4-5 times, but those deaths were to waller/arcane combos and double elite packs with double arcane. I was in no real danger in the Azmodan fight even though it took a bit longer due to loss of DPS. Overall a decent improvement, I think. Eventually I'd like to get to the point where I can switch back to Battle Rage because I don't like having to use both Revenge and Rend for my sustain. When I'm chasing those annoying enemies that kite and run away all the time, I usually only have time to use one of those abilities before they run away again. | ||
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findingthelimit
Hong Kong219 Posts
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ZYXlimitLSR-2987/hero/18083824 there's my character... i don't know how to improve him! all the items i got for below 250k in the auction house, i might have gotten ripped off a few times but generally the stats are alright, except that my weapon sucks, i have no strength, no crit, thus no dps. everything on the AH seems super expensive now! i look for an upgrade for my pants, and they all cost at least 500k. I currently have 600k. Can anyone give me advice as to what upgrade I should look for first? I feel like my chest could give some str, and i need a new amulet and ring. yet justice lantern is unaffordable for me, and decent amulets that are an upgrade seem to cost a ton too. also, i'm thinking of replacing the gem in my helmet to a purple one. help needed! thanks in advance <3 edit: i'm in act 2 infernal btw. Feel like my dps is a bit too low... | ||
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icyF
Finland305 Posts
On October 02 2012 06:44 findingthelimit wrote: Hey, I'm pretty new to diablo, got to level 60 pretty quickly because its only the first 2 weeks of college, and got some free items from a great guy on TL. But I actually don't know anything about the game! http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ZYXlimitLSR-2987/hero/18083824 there's my character... i don't know how to improve him! all the items i got for below 250k in the auction house, i might have gotten ripped off a few times but generally the stats are alright, except that my weapon sucks, i have no strength, no crit, thus no dps. everything on the AH seems super expensive now! i look for an upgrade for my pants, and they all cost at least 500k. I currently have 600k. Can anyone give me advice as to what upgrade I should look for first? I feel like my chest could give some str, and i need a new amulet and ring. yet justice lantern is unaffordable for me, and decent amulets that are an upgrade seem to cost a ton too. also, i'm thinking of replacing the gem in my helmet to a purple one. help needed! thanks in advance <3 edit: i'm in act 2 infernal btw. Feel like my dps is a bit too low... Hi there! First thing that comes to mind is swapping out those Amethysts in your chest and amulet for Rubies, to increase str and thus also damage. If you then find it hard to survive, swap the Topaz in your helm for an Amethyst, as you also said yourself. If you have trouble killing stuff, you could try out Rend with Blood Lust (or Lacerate for additional damage, if survivability is not an issue for you) instead of Furious Charge. I think Ruthless would give you a better boost in damage than Weapons Master with that spear, try it out! If you die very rarely, or not at all, you could switch out Tough as Nails or Nerves Of Steel (try out with full buffs which gives more armor) for Ruthless or Weapons Master. As you don't have an abundance of gold, there is really no quick fix. You just need to grind it out, and look for cheap upgrades in the AH. The first things I would look for are a better pair of boots, a better ring than that unique one and new pants. Try to utilize the maximum values of str and vit for each slot, f.e. as close to 300 vit as possible on chest and pants, and as close to 300 str as possible on belts and shoulders. Here is a link to one chart of maximum stats per slot. Remember to always check with your EHP calculator when buying something if you are not 100% sure about it. | ||
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