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Public Service Ann: Everyone Turn ON Elective Mode

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Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 20:10:58
May 14 2012 19:32 GMT
#1
What is it Elective Mode?

TLDR: Just turn it on there's zero reason not to. Then remember you can now have choose any combination of skills you want, rather than only 1 of each Category. And now your action bar isn't locked yay!
I think it's under Options --> Gameplay --> Interface

Edit: It's recommended you turn on Advanced Tooltips as well. For science.

So what is it exactly?

It's probably the dumbest mistake Blizzard's ever done assuming it's still there on release, which afaik it is. And it's not intuitive at all nor is it explained except if you get it in a lucky Tip while loading.

Basically, each class in D3 has a maximum of 6 active skill slots available to them (along with 3 passives).

Each skill belongs to one of 6 categories for each class, like Primary, Secondary, Defensive, etc.
The default UI (ELECTIVE OFF) only allows you to have one of each type of skill learned. So only 1 Primary, 1 Defensive, 1 Tactical, 1 Secondary, etc.
But actually any char can have any skill setup they want. You can have 3 secondaries and 3 tacticals or whatever you want, but only if you have Elective Mode on.
Also it unlocks your action bar, which by default prevented you from being able to change what Mouse 1 / 2 did, or hotkeys 1-4 did. Seriously dumb.

More info here



Thank you for listening to this Public Service Announcement.

FYI I think it means "I elect to not be limited like I'm some sort of moron." mirriam-webster states Elective means - Beneficial to the patient but not necessary for survival. I guess that's true lol
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Zaqwert
Profile Joined June 2008
United States411 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 19:35:40
May 14 2012 19:35 GMT
#2
Don't forget to turn on the detailed tooltips as well.

The default tooltips are COMPLETELY WORTHLESS in every way, they are basically a textual description of what the skill does with no numerical information whatsoever.

So ya, the very first thing anyone who isn't DERP should do is turn on elective mode and advanced tooltips.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
May 14 2012 19:41 GMT
#3
LOL, thanks!!!
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
May 14 2012 19:45 GMT
#4
On May 15 2012 04:35 Zaqwert wrote:
Don't forget to turn on the detailed tooltips as well.

The default tooltips are COMPLETELY WORTHLESS in every way, they are basically a textual description of what the skill does with no numerical information whatsoever.

So ya, the very first thing anyone who isn't DERP should do is turn on elective mode and advanced tooltips.

Yeah i hit my head against a wall when I first played the beta. They should both be on by default.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
May 14 2012 19:46 GMT
#5
I have no clue why they thought this was even necessary in the first place. Skill descriptions are hardly overwhelming and limiting slots to certain skill sets doesn't seem to help the uninitiated at all, either.
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karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
May 14 2012 19:46 GMT
#6
Yes I found this out at the end of the beta weekend and it improved the game play alot for me, and is the real heart of character customization.
adwodon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom592 Posts
May 14 2012 19:51 GMT
#7
I disagree that elective mode is 'seriously dumb', they stated they added it in because people were somewhat overwhelmed by the choice and weren't sure on what to put where or how to begin to approach skill assignment, as they didn't want people to have to look up guides before playing they went for this option.

It's a good idea, however I do agree there should be some kind of message that informs the player about elective mode / adv tooltips, this is the one serious flaw in their design, they rely on us to figure it out, and sure most of us will / have done but there will still be a lot of people out there, probably for a while who are unaware of elective mode and find it frustrating that they can't change skills around once they've got used to it.
Krowser
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada788 Posts
May 14 2012 19:52 GMT
#8
The first thing I do with every game once I start it is click on options and enable/max out everything.
D3 and Pho, the way to go. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340709
Yacobs
Profile Joined March 2010
United States846 Posts
May 14 2012 19:53 GMT
#9
Just another example of Blizzard catering to the lowest common denominator. Gotta make that cash.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
May 14 2012 19:53 GMT
#10
Thanks for the heads up!
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 19:56:59
May 14 2012 19:55 GMT
#11
On May 15 2012 04:51 adwodon wrote:
I disagree that elective mode is 'seriously dumb', they stated they added it in because people were somewhat overwhelmed by the choice and weren't sure on what to put where or how to begin to approach skill assignment, as they didn't want people to have to look up guides before playing they went for this option.

It's a good idea, however I do agree there should be some kind of message that informs the player about elective mode / adv tooltips, this is the one serious flaw in their design, they rely on us to figure it out, and sure most of us will / have done but there will still be a lot of people out there, probably for a while who are unaware of elective mode and find it frustrating that they can't change skills around once they've got used to it.

yeah but elective mode on is still super friendly to newbies who dont know. why? because it still gives you the same skill choices as elective mode off, you have to know to click the little arrows at the top to change to other categories. see youtube video in OP
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Kanaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark658 Posts
May 14 2012 19:56 GMT
#12
Good knowledge.
It will make the game so much more customizeable, and will make the experience so much different for everyone, instead of a strictly linear build with beforehand defined skills / abilitys.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
May 14 2012 19:57 GMT
#13
On May 15 2012 04:46 Myles wrote:
I have no clue why they thought this was even necessary in the first place. Skill descriptions are hardly overwhelming and limiting slots to certain skill sets doesn't seem to help the uninitiated at all, either.

simply cuz they want to make it was easy as possible for newbs, and having one of each skilltypes is probably easier if you don't know what is good

skill description is pretty n/c though
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
May 14 2012 19:58 GMT
#14
As someone who refrained from Beta, even with an invite, I thank ye for the info.
Big water
GeedrAhsc
Profile Joined July 2011
United States97 Posts
May 14 2012 20:01 GMT
#15
Good lookin out Zelniq. I'm all over that. Would've been quite the surprise having it on after I start playing, lol.

adwodon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom592 Posts
May 14 2012 20:06 GMT
#16
On May 15 2012 04:55 Zelniq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 04:51 adwodon wrote:
I disagree that elective mode is 'seriously dumb', they stated they added it in because people were somewhat overwhelmed by the choice and weren't sure on what to put where or how to begin to approach skill assignment, as they didn't want people to have to look up guides before playing they went for this option.

It's a good idea, however I do agree there should be some kind of message that informs the player about elective mode / adv tooltips, this is the one serious flaw in their design, they rely on us to figure it out, and sure most of us will / have done but there will still be a lot of people out there, probably for a while who are unaware of elective mode and find it frustrating that they can't change skills around once they've got used to it.

yeah but elective mode on is still super friendly to newbies who dont know. why? because it still gives you the same skill choices as elective mode off, you have to know to click the little arrows at the top to change to other categories. see youtube video in OP


You have a good point there, I would've watched that but I'm on a uni computer (IE6, no flash ¬_¬). Got my #160 wristband for the London D3 release, been waiting out here as its round the corner and they said we didn't have to stick around for 5-6 hours!

If it was automatically on and there was a 'restore default' button it would work for everyone. Seems odd they wouldn't change it to something more suitable. I guess they just wanted people to have no choice until they figure it out? That's the only reason I can think, like those people who propose passing an IQ test before you can vote...
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
May 14 2012 20:09 GMT
#17
Both elective mode and advanced tooltips are given. Damage numbers and always-show item names are also important options.

Overall, I'd recommend everyone to check the options before really starting, tons of needed stuff are turned off by default.
Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
May 14 2012 20:09 GMT
#18
Oh My God, this is huge....
This means we can now have both Slow Time and Teleport for the Sorceress, right?
This opens so much more possibilities, now idea why they did not specify it right away...
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
May 14 2012 20:12 GMT
#19
yep, with it off you could only pick one or the other lol, and would never know any better.
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Zaqwert
Profile Joined June 2008
United States411 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 20:13:34
May 14 2012 20:13 GMT
#20
Blizzard has adopted the policy of building their default UI and options for this guy

[image loading]

He's even colored like BNET 2.0.... interesting.
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