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tuho12345
4482 Posts
My Solution: Ship the game now. Patch in RMAH later. Good fucking solution! Damn I've been waiting for the beta and they didn't give me any shit, now just release it in the next month and I'll be fucking happy to pay $100 for the damn collector edition you greedy bastard. | ||
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Nilrem
United States3684 Posts
You can potentially break the economy by adding it, since economies are very volatile and susceptible to outside influences. | ||
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Malkavian183
Turkey227 Posts
The game is a game to their programmers but it actually is a product. And this doesn't change anything if the game is good. RMAH might actually be an issue but they said that the game was in shipping condition but they didn't feel that they were comfortable with it. This was in a blue post i've read it in diablofans i guess last week. I really can't believe that you can QQ that much over just a speculation and what I consider a conspiracy theory. Even if it is true think it like this they have invested many millions of dollars in this game and they have promised shareholders that the game will be out at the end of 2011. Is this smart to postpone this? Believe me shareholders and bosses don't believe in postponing if there is money to be had right now. | ||
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
On January 05 2012 17:48 Malkavian183 wrote: I really do not understand why you keep believing the desire to make money is bad. These are gaming 'companies', their first and foremost desire is to make games to make money. If couldn't make money then they would be shut down. Do you really feel the games lose their specialness when money comes in? Or are you still that 5 year old who thinks the games are made just for your fun and your daddy will save you if anything bad happens? Get real. The game is a game to their programmers but it actually is a product. And this doesn't change anything if the game is good. RMAH might actually be an issue but they said that the game was in shipping condition but they didn't feel that they were comfortable with it. This was in a blue post i've read it in diablofans i guess last week. I really can't believe that you can QQ that much over just a speculation and what I consider a conspiracy theory. Even if it is true think it like this they have invested many millions of dollars in this game and they have promised shareholders that the game will be out at the end of 2011. Is this smart to postpone this? Believe me shareholders and bosses don't believe in postponing if there is money to be had right now. wow, what a conceited post. We understand the concept that shareholders want to make money, but there is more to their interest in blizzard than just short term return. Obviously they should care about long term growth and market cultivation, which they have been completely blowing off for a few WoW expansnios, and now with the release of RMAH. People will eventually abandon blizzard for a superior company that doesn't stick their middle finger up to their customers just because they can, and blizzard will suffer greatly from it. The fact that they're delaying the game doesn't show anything except that they're money grubbing for Korea, when they could easily just delay the Korean launch and ship everywhere else with this bullshit RMAH which is an insult to gamers worldwide. If they're being "guided by their shareholders" as you imply, then I'm glad I don't have any stock in their mother company because their board of directors is full of fucking retards. I hate it when people say this, that developers make games to make money. Obviously they do, but they act out of line sometimes for no reason other than showing their power in the market, and it's retarded, arrogant, and down right ignorant, completely opposite of the blizzard which wrote BW | ||
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Malkavian183
Turkey227 Posts
On January 05 2012 18:20 Endymion wrote: wow, what a conceited post. We understand the concept that shareholders want to make money, but there is more to their interest in blizzard than just short term return. Obviously they should care about long term growth and market cultivation, which they have been completely blowing off for a few WoW expansnios, and now with the release of RMAH. People will eventually abandon blizzard for a superior company that doesn't stick their middle finger up to their customers just because they can, and blizzard will suffer greatly from it. The fact that they're delaying the game doesn't show anything except that they're money grubbing for Korea, when they could easily just delay the Korean launch and ship everywhere else with this bullshit RMAH which is an insult to gamers worldwide. If they're being "guided by their shareholders" as you imply, then I'm glad I don't have any stock in their mother company because their board of directors is full of fucking retards. I hate it when people say this, that developers make games to make money. Obviously they do, but they act out of line sometimes for no reason other than showing their power in the market, and it's retarded, arrogant, and down right ignorant, completely opposite of the blizzard which wrote BW I really do not see blizzard showing their middle finger. It is just people see them do this because they want to play the game. I also do not understand this extreme frustration. WC3 was delayed at least 2 years (3 if I remember right) and blizzard is again delaying this game because of design issues why is this strange to people is beyond me. And this Korean money grubbing issue is being denied again and again by people see "THEY R DELAY BCOUZ OF DİS" with no better argument than "OFC THEİR GONNA DENY". Really? Showing power in the market, what power? These are gaming companies, Blizzard may be huge company for gaming purposes but they are in entertainment business and gaming is a small market in regards to other entertainment purposes and entertainment market isn't really huge next to industrial markets. Seriously... | ||
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Meta
United States6228 Posts
Gambling? Seriously? I'm pretty sure in gambling you are REQUIRED to put your money on the table. How is the RMAH gambling? Fucking ridiculous. | ||
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Doko
Argentina1737 Posts
Blizzard should just release the game with RMAH and simply disable the functionality for that account/session if a korean IP's is detected upon log in. If a korean is using a proxy/tunnel they are violating ToS and they can't be held legally responsible. At least until they can figure something out with the korean board. | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On January 05 2012 18:50 Meta wrote: Very interesting information. I sincerely hope they reconcile this dispute as fast as possible. Gambling? Seriously? I'm pretty sure in gambling you are REQUIRED to put your money on the table. How is the RMAH gambling? Fucking ridiculous. It's gambling is the same sense that playing the stock market is. If prices do you've won, if prices do down you lose. | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
This is almost too funny. I'm very glad the GRB is giving the finger to Blizzard. The "no cash out" option that Blizzard is now pushing makes no economic sense. It appears to me that since money can only be put into the system and cannot really be taken out, the pool of money in the system can only increase, meaning that real money prices of items will only increase. Unless an economist corrects me, this sounds like a recipe for mega-inflation. Theories that the GRB rating is delaying the game also makes no sense. Blizzard has never commited to a simultaneous global release. And while a simultaneous global release is better than not having a simultaneous global release, Blizzard has not committed to such releases in the past, and there is no reason to keep to one this time. There is no benefit to Blizzard. However, I have no horse in this race, since I will never buy Diablo 3 because the RMAH destroys the whole point of playing the game, despite Diablo 2 being the game I've had the most fun ever playing. /popcorn. | ||
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kochujang
Germany1226 Posts
Edit: It makes more sense to go for a global release because of this. If you want to operate with digital currency, then you have to do it everywhere! | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On January 05 2012 19:22 kochujang wrote: Edit: It makes more sense to go for a global release because of this. If you want to operate with digital currency, then you have to do it everywhere! Umm... no. I still see no reason why you have to release everywhere at the same time. Particularly, since they've stated that cross-selling between regional RMAHs is not possible. | ||
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Grimmac
United Kingdom71 Posts
On January 05 2012 12:37 ArvickHero wrote: well, gives the developers more time to shine and polish the game Duke Nukem Forever, anyone? 12 years... to see this garbage ... my hopes are thin... | ||
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Holy_AT
Austria978 Posts
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Dbars
United States273 Posts
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Ryps
Romania2740 Posts
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Hikari
1914 Posts
On January 05 2012 20:27 Ryps wrote: Do Koreans even play Diablo games ? Arent they more into asian MMO's and that other asian RPGs ? Koreans recently obtained on of the first world kills on the "last boss" of the current WoW expansion. I am sure Koreans wouldn't mind D3. | ||
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Bulkers
Poland509 Posts
On January 05 2012 20:27 Ryps wrote: Do Koreans even play Diablo games ? Arent they more into asian MMO's and that other asian RPGs ? Looking at diablo 2 over the years korean diablo scene is very small comparing to us/eu, but Blizzard said that they give a promise that d3 will have worldwide release and they doesnt want to break the promise (to bad they break the "promise/word" that the game will be released in late 2011) | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On January 05 2012 20:13 Dbars wrote: Just bothers the hell out of me that the game is probably 100% polished and done by now and they wont release it because of RMAH. Some countries are never going to allow this and blizz needs to get over that. Completely unsubstantiated claim. There is no benefit from Blizzard's point of view to delay the release of Diablo 3 over the Korean RMAH. | ||
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Cenja
Sweden498 Posts
On January 05 2012 02:46 Medrea wrote: My Solution: Ship the game now. Patch in RMAH later. Won't happen because then RMAH would have to compete with other gold-selling methods and why would Blizzard want that? Especially since they probably will take a larger cut and give less $ per gold than other services, because lets face it, RMAH is not as much a service for us but a way for Blizzard to make more money. | ||
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Greem
730 Posts
On January 05 2012 18:20 Endymion wrote: wow, what a conceited post. We understand the concept that shareholders want to make money, but there is more to their interest in blizzard than just short term return. Obviously they should care about long term growth and market cultivation, which they have been completely blowing off for a few WoW expansnios, and now with the release of RMAH. People will eventually abandon blizzard for a superior company that doesn't stick their middle finger up to their customers just because they can, and blizzard will suffer greatly from it. The fact that they're delaying the game doesn't show anything except that they're money grubbing for Korea, when they could easily just delay the Korean launch and ship everywhere else with this bullshit RMAH which is an insult to gamers worldwide. If they're being "guided by their shareholders" as you imply, then I'm glad I don't have any stock in their mother company because their board of directors is full of fucking retards. I hate it when people say this, that developers make games to make money. Obviously they do, but they act out of line sometimes for no reason other than showing their power in the market, and it's retarded, arrogant, and down right ignorant, completely opposite of the blizzard which wrote BW Amen. I think Blizzard is changing or is changed already ? Money and growth of company is important, but so is the ideals of the company. I dont think blizzard would be this company if not for they dedications to fans. I bought every single blizzard game, not only because i enoyed every game they make, but mostly because i want to support they model. If they start focusing on money more then they should , well then i guess they will stop being No1 company for me. | ||
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