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On January 13 2012 16:34 paralleluniverse wrote:http://www.diablofans.com/news/1050-diablo-3-passes-south-koreas-grb-many-more-beta-invites-digital-book-of-cain-wizards-hydra-runed-beta-screenshots/No RMAH in Korea, and Diablo 3 finally gets a rating there. This changes the state of play. Since there is no region locking, and since it is possible to play on any server with a client in any language, it would be very heartening to see the Korean servers turned into an international server because all the players around the world who are against the RMAH may gravitate towards it. The idea of a server that has a diverse and international playerbase, while being completely free of the unfair and game-destroying RMAH sounds like an almost utopian concept. I'm very pleased.
Good luck playing on Korea from Europe with acceptable delay...
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On January 13 2012 16:34 paralleluniverse wrote:http://www.diablofans.com/news/1050-diablo-3-passes-south-koreas-grb-many-more-beta-invites-digital-book-of-cain-wizards-hydra-runed-beta-screenshots/No RMAH in Korea, and Diablo 3 finally gets a rating there. This changes the state of play. Since there is no region locking, and since it is possible to play on any server with a client in any language, it would be very heartening to see the Korean servers turned into an international server because all the players around the world who are against the RMAH may gravitate towards it. The idea of a server that has a diverse and international playerbase, while being completely free of the unfair and game-destroying RMAH sounds like an almost utopian concept. I'm very pleased.
If there's no RMAH on this "international server," you're just going to have an underground network of transactions anyway. The irony of it being a virtual utopia is present because that's exactly what it likely won't be.
And to be fair, the mass of people who are against the RMAH in their region will either play hardcore, or simply just ignore it altogether and remain in their region. Playing with people who they can't communicate with over in korea or internationally is far worse than playing with people who have slightly better items because of a RMAH presence...
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Just wanted to extend a sincere thank you for maintaining this OP so well. I haven't been able to keep up with all the drama as it occurs, but I am very very anxious for Diablo 3, and it was much easier to keep up with this OP then it was to wade through all the bs news articles that appear everytime something Diablo 3 related happens.
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On January 13 2012 17:55 Nilrem wrote:
I am glad they got Korea sorted out, but man. This is why i hate conspiracy theories; there is no winning at all. The game's release date wont be announced for a while. So, these are the claims that can be made. If the release date came out within a week, than the conspiracy theoriest will claim it to be the proof that it was in fact korea holding it up.
On the other hand, if it does not come for a while (which I foresee being the case). Than it will simply be claimed that Blizzard does not want us to know it was Korea so they held off the release date. Due to an argument being made based on no evidence, it is able to survive because there was no real basis to begin with.
In the end, people will believe what they want. And even though it has been pointed out that Korea was not holding back the games release, even with Blizzard stating that more than once. There will still be others believing it.
Exactly, Bashiok worded it like this earlier this week;
This can only end in disappointment. When a final decision is rendered and game still isn't released, finally people will realize the two weren't linked, as stated. But then the game still won't be out, so still no one is happy. I suppose those are just the ups and downs you have to expect when following something so closely.
I will simply switch to Hardcore mode whenever it seems reasonable ( might be hard to judge at first ^^ ) myself to dodge RMAH. And if shady stuff like JSP does pop up to fill the gap ( which is very likely ) i will just pick my friends wisely I guess and try to stay "untainted" as you will.
Either way, it's great that everyone can play the game the way they like "soon" ™ which is all that counts really. =)
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On January 13 2012 16:34 paralleluniverse wrote:http://www.diablofans.com/news/1050-diablo-3-passes-south-koreas-grb-many-more-beta-invites-digital-book-of-cain-wizards-hydra-runed-beta-screenshots/No RMAH in Korea, and Diablo 3 finally gets a rating there. This changes the state of play. Since there is no region locking, and since it is possible to play on any server with a client in any language, it would be very heartening to see the Korean servers turned into an international server because all the players around the world who are against the RMAH may gravitate towards it. The idea of a server that has a diverse and international playerbase, while being completely free of the unfair and game-destroying RMAH sounds like an almost utopian concept. I'm very pleased.
The South Koreans will use 3rd party trading sites harder than you can imagine. Probably even harder than westerners will use RMAH.
And also South Koreans themselves will gravitate towards the NA region rather than stay in Korea because of RMAH. To restate, South Koreans can purchase an NA copy of the game, and access NA RMAH. They cannot do this with the Korean version.
This is assuming that Blizzard doesnt IP block NA accounts residing in South Korea. Which could happen.
Hell SK practically invented the idea of RMAH.
Hardcore mode wont be free of RMAH or trading either, items arent character bound, so of course 3rd party trading is going to happen.
On January 14 2012 02:45 Fateless wrote:Just wanted to extend a sincere thank you for maintaining this OP so well. I haven't been able to keep up with all the drama as it occurs, but I am very very anxious for Diablo 3, and it was much easier to keep up with this OP then it was to wade through all the bs news articles that appear everytime something Diablo 3 related happens.
No problemo! Im going to keep following the release of D3 like this right up until a date is announced. Soon i will ask a moderator to change the title of the thread.
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Give me Diablo 3... The armageddon of my personal life will arrive with it.
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People dont realize one thing - Korea rating undoubtedly caused last year delay which was announced in Sep ("Soon was too Soon - Diablo to arrive in early 2012"), but was not holding the release now. Its good it wont be causing any problems til expansion, but dont expect release date next week. The fact that this is sorted out allows Blizzard to focus on logistics in Korea, some changes to their battle.net infrastructure and so on.
Blizzard is already printing manuals for the game, so the game is coming out relatively soon (in Blizzard time of course :D ), they are close to their "content lock" deadline and they cannot delay much longer.
Hopefully we will get some more info on state of the game in JWs article late next week.
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w0ot w0ot, getting closer for release. looking forward to it.
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No other company could ever get away with this bullshit while keeping their head above water.
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With WoW, Blizzard can get away with just about any stupidity shitty they want. In a way, they are doing their fans a service by even 'wasting' their time creating games such as SC2/D3. Arguably, they are diverting resources from making their next non-WoW mmorpg.
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Let's bet...  Half-Life 2: Episode 3 or Diablo 3 first? God knows.
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Ok, now that this hurdle is cleared, they really need to get this game out.
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seems like release is in sight
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On January 14 2012 13:37 DNB wrote:Let's bet... Half-Life 2: Episode 3 or Diablo 3 first? God knows.
Difference is Episode 3 you just about never hear any news of, so I doubt it'll be earlier.
Personally I'm rather hoping D3 won't be released all too close to Mass Effect 3, would suck to be desperately wanting to play both at once :/
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On January 14 2012 13:37 DNB wrote:Let's bet... Half-Life 2: Episode 3 or Diablo 3 first? God knows.
Hopefully, D3 will be out before E3 where HL3 could be very likely announced.
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I made a bet with a stupid friend of mine, we guessed Diablo 3 release dates and whoever gets the closest gets some money. He went for 12th of November, I abused the system and went for the 11th. I swear if I lose this bet...
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On January 14 2012 00:26 Horrde wrote:If there's no RMAH on this "international server," you're just going to have an underground network of transactions anyway. The irony of it being a virtual utopia is present because that's exactly what it likely won't be. And to be fair, the mass of people who are against the RMAH in their region will either play hardcore, or simply just ignore it altogether and remain in their region. Playing with people who they can't communicate with over in korea or internationally is far worse than playing with people who have slightly better items because of a RMAH presence...
I would prefer to pay on a server with some cheaters (who would likely be banned), as opposed to a server where everyone is a cheater.
But it seems the idea won't be coming true, as the Korean RMAH uses Blizzard Balance.
This will be an economic disaster as I stated in my previous post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=300475¤tpage=6#103
[...] I would additionally argue that since money can only be put into the system and can only be used to trade items, real money item prices will skyrocket, as the total pool of money monotonically increases. This will lead to a financial disaster that will destroy the Korean RMAH economy, and I'm glad.
While the Blizzard Balance is slightly modified in some unrevealed way, the same prediction apply as long as money can be put, which it obviously can be, and as long as money can't be taken out, which is the requirement that led to a rating in the first place.
/popcorn
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I'm moving to Korea in a month and I sincerely hope this ordeal doesn't fuck with my ability to play D3 with my friends back in the states.
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On January 15 2012 16:15 Meta wrote:
I'm moving to Korea in a month and I sincerely hope this ordeal doesn't fuck with my ability to play D3 with my friends back in the states.
It won't affect your ability to play with your friends. Cross server play is implemented from the start, only thing it would affect is you not being able to access the NA RMAH and vice versa when they patch it in for KR servers.
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Ugh I guess good news, but this wait is getting a bit annoying. Back when they said "end of 2011" was the goal, I predicted the game would be out March 28th, which I thought was giving them plenty of breathing room. But at this point, it seems like the end of June might be more reasonable =/
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