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United States371 Posts
IEM Spoiler + Show Spoiler + As is, the 4 remaining IEM competitors all lost in the first round of Code A (which is why they had time to get over to Europe). Why, then, do any of them deserve an up/down match more than the winner of Code A deserves a free pass to Code S? This is great for IEM however, as it lends even more credibility to the tournament. | ||
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zeru
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
On March 05 2011 05:26 hydraden wrote: If they get a second chance to stay in Code A, that's totaly fine, and great. But chance to code S, that's absurd. GOM is basically saying to send your winner here to korea to compete against our very best for winning your tournament. The guys at IEM are getting a very lucky break not to have to start from the bottom next season by getting a seeding from IEM. | ||
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altered
Switzerland646 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + As far as i understand it, GOM saw Moonglade, Moon, Squirtle and Ace in the semifinals (all of them are knocked out Code A players) so they decided to give a wildcard to one of those 4 players. This 4 players are already in korea and GOM knows they are willing to play in GSL. This decision would never have been made if for example QXC, Sjow, Idra and White-Ra were the IEM semifinalists. GOM sees the opportunity to solve their Idra spot problem without organizing a wildcard tournament themself, it s an elegant solution for GOM although not very fair for the code A players (but its not the end of the world either). | ||
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W2
United States1177 Posts
I would like for gomtv to be more consistent though because this isn't going to be a one-time thing. Things come up and it's not at all implausible that 1 out of 32 players has to withdraw from the tournament. They need a more consistent system... | ||
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Fenrisulf
United States325 Posts
4 Code A players were invited (including Moonglade) , if they had not been knocked out first round of Code A they would have had to play GSL on the same day as IEM (not possible to be in two places at once, assuming that they had to fly out to play IEM instead of playing from korea). So, either A - invites were given out after they dropped from code A (unlikely) or B - invites were given to them before and maybe they purposely lost code A in first round (considering how much more the prize money is for IEM top 4 than for winning Code A) or C - possibility i havent thought of | ||
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Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
It would have been funny if IdrA won!  | ||
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hydraden
United States719 Posts
On March 05 2011 05:31 zeru wrote: Just from the results, he beat a code S player 2-0 at IEM. + Show Spoiler + hes already out GSL is just GSL, if they change IEM's name as GSL wild card tournament, then it is totally fine. But it is not. | ||
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Space Invader
Australia291 Posts
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Xodushai
Sweden174 Posts
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
On March 05 2011 05:48 Fenrisulf wrote: I have to wonder, when were invites to IEM decided (for korea)? 4 Code A players were invited (including Moonglade) , if they had not been knocked out first round of Code A they would have had to play GSL on the same day as IEM (not possible to be in two places at once, assuming that they had to fly out to play IEM instead of playing from korea). So, either A - invites were given out after they dropped from code A (unlikely) or B - invites were given to them before and maybe they purposely lost code A in first round (considering how much more the prize money is for IEM top 4 than for winning Code A) or C - possibility i havent thought of C - they got invited and initially didnt want to go because of gsl, and when they lost, they decided to go? .... maybe? idc | ||
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Rinnegan5
Netherlands319 Posts
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jax1492
United States1632 Posts
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Kantutan
Canada1319 Posts
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Zim23
United States1681 Posts
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nart
97 Posts
I feel bad for the winner of Code A this season. | ||
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durbarak
Austria54 Posts
On March 05 2011 05:48 Fenrisulf wrote: 4 Code A players were invited (including Moonglade) , if they had not been knocked out first round of Code A they would have had to play GSL on the same day as IEM (not possible to be in two places at once, assuming that they had to fly out to play IEM instead of playing from korea). The 4 korean invites are Ace, Moon, Squirtle and Idra. mOOnGLaDe won the IEM Asia finals vs. Loner and secured his spot at IEM. | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
Giving the winner of Code A a free pass into Code S wouldn't work if only for the fact that they could pick a teammate as their 3rd group member and have them also auto-advance. While the Code A winner might deserve it, the Code S player who dropped out of his group in the first round certainly does not. There's no doubt that Code A is one of the strongest tournaments in the world right now, and we saw a lot of really good players get eliminated in the ro32. I think this is as good a way as any of replacing IdrA in the up/down matches and while it's giving select Code A players a second chance (which may seem unfair), they have to win a major international tournament to get it. It is by no means a free pass to Code S and they only have one chance in the up and down matches against what is probably a very strong group with the way the up/down matches look. | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On March 05 2011 07:19 nart wrote: It would have been better if the winner of Code A gets a free pass into Code S because winning Code A this season seems like the most difficult thing in Starcraft 2. So many Code A players are of Code S caliber. Winning Code A and have to face any of the players like MVP, Nestea, MKP in the up and down match in order to get into Code S is an impossible task. I feel bad for the winner of Code A this season. Bad example. There is no way the winner of Code A will pick any of those players to be in their group, and while the up and down matches are definitely stronger this time around, this probably won't apply to the winner of Code A. They should still have a relatively easy ride into Code S assuming they pick the right people and stay on top of their game. EDIT: As an example the winner of Code A can pick PoltPrime or TheBestfOu and BanBansZenith for their up/down group, which gives them as good a chance as last season of getting into Code S. The player pool quickly gets much stronger than that though, so if anything this will make the ro8 Code A much more intense because the lower you place the lower your chance of getting out of Code A, whereas last season there were a lot of terrible players to choose from. | ||
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TicketoHELL
Canada368 Posts
On March 05 2011 04:01 Frankon wrote: thisWell we are talking about Intel GSL and Intel Extreme Masters. Looks like the decision about it was made considering the sponsor. It bring both hype to IEM and GSL. People in Korea will watch the finals of the IEM knowing that the winner is going to up/down code S matches. Also GOM is getting some extra publicity. But you guys forget the main issue. Its happening once (cause player retired during tournament) and they had to replace his spot. It doesnt mean that next IEM winner would get a ticket to GSL. Its once in a time situation. makes complete sense to me both tournament is sponsored by intel and intel want to promote IEM GSL is just listening to their sponsor | ||
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