Naniwa joins Dignitas - Page 9

On January 21 2011 15:40 frequency wrote:


The stupidity in that comment really annoys me. If you don't watch his games, don't bother commenting on his play.

On January 22 2011 00:25 7pool wrote:


I have seen him play, couple of times. And I have yet to see him do something else than a standard 4gate, 4gate with 2 voidrays, 5gate or 3gate expand into 6gate.

On January 21 2011 23:36 Yiska wrote:


EG keeps losing to NrG. I think you vastly overestimate them. When IdrA isn't around they've been showing underwhelming results

On January 21 2011 10:14 hellsan631 wrote:


Socke
Huk
Tyler
Kiwi
White-Ra

These are all that play way better then him. I've watched a lot of his games, and a ton of the other toss's i named games, and they impress me way more then Nanawi has ever done.

On January 22 2011 01:22 shaunnn wrote:


No they dont, atm nani is preforming better than everyone on that list except for white-ra. Huk and tyler have done nothing concrete of late in any tournament, i think tyler went out fairly early in that fx open, and huk has done nothing in korea as of yet to be able to be placed anywhere, kiwi lost to morrow in the reddit tournament who nani has destroyed in their last meeting and socke lost out to him in the homestory cup. Going by tournmanet results nani is unquestionably number 2 atm

On January 22 2011 01:40 Mogget wrote:


Dude... no ones says that he's bad, just not as good as those guys, and tbh, as far as Ra, Huk, Tyler and Kiwi are concerned, they are -all- better than him, and dont bother saying "they havnt done well in tourney x, or havnt played a tourney for a while, because huk and Tyler -STREAM- you can watch them play against other pro's on ladder often, and these guys are straight up beasts, not to mention that kiwi (although not as good as Tyler and Huk mechanically imo) is one of the most creative players in the game -period- it is no shame to be called worse than those guys

On January 22 2011 01:40 Mogget wrote:


Dude... no ones says that he's bad, just not as good as those guys, and tbh, as far as Ra, Huk, Tyler and Kiwi are concerned, they are -all- better than him, and dont bother saying "they havnt done well in tourney x, or havnt played a tourney for a while, because huk and Tyler -STREAM- you can watch them play against other pro's on ladder often, and these guys are straight up beasts, not to mention that kiwi (although not as good as Tyler and Huk mechanically imo) is one of the most creative players in the game -period- it is no shame to be called worse than those guys

On January 22 2011 01:47 shaunnn wrote:


So basically your saying dont use rational arguements like tournament results because they dont agree with your opinion of the players, nice logic you have there

On January 22 2011 01:51 Mogget wrote:


No, actually i was saying don't -only- look at tournament results, just becuase it agree's with -your- opinion. Way to instantly take a discussion into insults and slander (y)

On January 22 2011 02:06 shaunnn wrote:


Ok your trying to argue based from streamed ladder performance, but naniwa is nr1 in europe with an 80% win ratio and was the first to hit 3k(did it on american servers as boyardee) and the first to hit 4k, you dont have an arguement for why these players are better than him at all yet you tell me im wrong because in your opinion they are, i hardly took the discussion into insults and slander, i just pointed out your bad reasoning.

On January 22 2011 02:11 Mogget wrote:


And huk is 3rd -and- 4th on Korea ladder, but that isnt what i meant, what i meant was, if you actually watch their streams, playing against the best players in the world, on a regular basis, and winning a lot, (notice, this is the point i was actually making by stressing the fact that they stream) so simply saying "they got knock out of tourney x early" (could happen to any player) or, "they havnt played a tourney in a while" does not mean you cant still clearly see that they are training and are still top players.

and fyi, sarcastily saying "nice logic you have there" is insulting, and was intended as such

EDIT: also, just to re-iterate, i dont htink he is bad, i think he's very good, i watch his games often, and he's good, i just havnt been as impressed by him as i ever have by tyler huk or kiwi

On January 22 2011 02:55 shaunnn wrote:


Ok but i never argued that huk and tyler arnt top players, My point was that using factual data ie recent tournament results, naniwa is currently preforming as the 2nd best protoss outside of korea,

Then you said i was wrong "Dude... no ones says that he's bad, just not as good as those guys, and tbh, as far as Ra, Huk, Tyler and Kiwi are concerned, they are -all- better than him"

and these players are better than him because they have streams of them laddering beating top players which impresses you more than naniwa does, even though naniwa's ladder preformance is just as good if not better than theirs,

You must see your arguing from a personal opinion rather than actual facts and telling me im wrong even though you havent provided anything to back that claim

On January 22 2011 03:45 vdale wrote:
So your evidence is "tyler could also have taken the tournaments which naniwa won"? That's not an evidence. Your opinion (like every other on this topic) is subjective.

I also doubt that Tyler often beats players like ogsMC, fruitdealer, idra and jinro on ladder. I don't think that he plays against these players.

On January 22 2011 03:45 vdale wrote:
So your evidence is "tyler could also have taken the tournaments which naniwa won"? That's not an evidence. Your opinion (like every other on this topic) is subjective.