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Invoker
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium686 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-21 23:40:45
January 21 2011 23:39 GMT
#181
he keeps changing his team, didnt suprised tho.
There is no fate, but what we make.
shaunnn
Profile Joined October 2010
Ireland1230 Posts
January 21 2011 23:45 GMT
#182
On January 22 2011 08:11 Talin wrote:
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On January 22 2011 03:45 vdale wrote:
So your evidence is "tyler could also have taken the tournaments which naniwa won"? That's not an evidence. Your opinion (like every other on this topic) is subjective.


I would say Naniwa is better than Socke from that list mentioned above, and as much as it pains me to admit, possibly Tyler as well at this point. But you can't even compare him with Huk right now, Huk can destroy foreigners so hard right now if he brings his A game. White-Ra and Kiwi are in my opinion also better players overall.

And if we're talking about facts, rather than opinions, Naniwa hasn't done anything of note in any major tournaments. In fact Tyler has technically done better than him overall, not even to talk about the others on that list. He isn't even at the IEM Europe championship going on right now. His achievements of late are pretty much limited to TL Opens, and with all due respect it's essentially an online BO1/BO3 tournament with $200 prize pool.


He came 2nd at the homestory with europes best players while tyler went out fairly early in that FXopen, he was d/q from the iem thing afaik due to too many penalty points, pretty sure he was on the way to qualify, that + getting to the final 4 in two 1000player+ tournaments is pretty significant, also won a craftcup finals v morrow just there who kiwi lost to and has won pretty much every clanwar game for empire v people like fenix
The naniwa - Unit of protoss skill, defined as the number of gates you build off of one base
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
January 22 2011 02:18 GMT
#183
On January 22 2011 08:11 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2011 03:45 vdale wrote:
So your evidence is "tyler could also have taken the tournaments which naniwa won"? That's not an evidence. Your opinion (like every other on this topic) is subjective.


I would say Naniwa is better than Socke from that list mentioned above, and as much as it pains me to admit, possibly Tyler as well at this point. But you can't even compare him with Huk right now, Huk can destroy foreigners so hard right now if he brings his A game. White-Ra and Kiwi are in my opinion also better players overall.

And if we're talking about facts, rather than opinions, Naniwa hasn't done anything of note in any major tournaments. In fact Tyler has technically done better than him overall, not even to talk about the others on that list. He isn't even at the IEM Europe championship going on right now. His achievements of late are pretty much limited to TL Opens, and with all due respect it's essentially an online BO1/BO3 tournament with $200 prize pool.


I'm not saying that he is better than Huk or White-Ra. I actually don't know how good Huk is right now, but I think White-Ra is better than Nani. I would rate Naniwa higher than Socke, Kiwikaki (e.g. Nani won 3-0 against Morrow on the same day as Kiwi lost to him 2-3) and Tyler though. But that's all my opinion, not a fact or something like that.

I hate it when people are stating their opinion as a fact.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
January 22 2011 04:31 GMT
#184
Hope they send him to Korea, GL
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
VivaLaDejaVu
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6 Posts
January 22 2011 05:20 GMT
#185
meRz and nani = gg
"It gets bigger, inside"
Pawnawa
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden60 Posts
January 22 2011 10:49 GMT
#186
On January 21 2011 06:12 Seronei wrote:
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On January 21 2011 06:10 Asha` wrote:
:O Sick signing for Dignitas, surprised to see Nani leaving Empire though he's not been under their banner for that long?

Don't think Empire has the economy to send their players to tournaments, which is why it makes sense for the players to join bigger teams if they get the opportunity.


This is wrong, but it's understandable that he joins a stable team with a lot a fellow swedes and good practise partners
readysetbro
Profile Joined October 2010
United States29 Posts
January 22 2011 11:28 GMT
#187
ive personally heard nothing but bad things about this guy.. dont really care for him but we prob gonna see him jump ship/get kicked out soon enough
Shaoling
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden344 Posts
January 22 2011 16:05 GMT
#188
I dont understand the naniwa hate, theres like tons of videos of idra bming but i havent seen one video with him bming. Never. And hes saying he wants to change, why are you still trashing him? doesnt that show something?
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Pawnawa
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden60 Posts
January 22 2011 16:16 GMT
#189
On January 22 2011 00:25 7pool wrote:
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On January 21 2011 15:40 frequency wrote:
On January 21 2011 14:53 7pool wrote:
On January 21 2011 06:15 hellsan631 wrote:
On January 21 2011 06:07 busbarn wrote:
Naniwa left Empire and is confirmed to be joining dignitas.
This makes team dignitas look scary good, probably one of the best foreign teams now.


Minus Liquid (Every member?), or Root (Catz, Mini, Kiwi, QXC, Drew), or EG(Machine, Inka, Incontrol, LZ), or Mouz(Morrow, Strelock, Mana, Hasu, Naama), or Fnatic(Kiwi, TT1, Fenix, Gretorp. Sen, Lucifrion)



Yeah, Those teams are way better than Dignitas. SeleCT is probably the best in that team. Nani needs to learn to play on more than one base. People saying they should send nani to Korea makes me laugh. Nani would just be a worse version of ChoyafOu.


The stupidity in that comment really annoys me. If you don't watch his games, don't bother commenting on his play.


I have seen him play, couple of times. And I have yet to see him do something else than a standard 4gate, 4gate with 2 voidrays, 5gate or 3gate expand into 6gate.


You are wrong.
Yiska
Profile Joined November 2010
141 Posts
January 22 2011 20:16 GMT
#190
On January 22 2011 01:13 Cel.erity wrote:
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On January 21 2011 23:36 Yiska wrote:
On January 21 2011 20:33 Cel.erity wrote:
On January 21 2011 18:06 netherDrake wrote:
On January 21 2011 14:53 7pool wrote:
On January 21 2011 06:15 hellsan631 wrote:
On January 21 2011 06:07 busbarn wrote:
Naniwa left Empire and is confirmed to be joining dignitas.
This makes team dignitas look scary good, probably one of the best foreign teams now.


Minus Liquid (Every member?), or Root (Catz, Mini, Kiwi, QXC, Drew), or EG(Machine, Inka, Incontrol, LZ), or Mouz(Morrow, Strelock, Mana, Hasu, Naama), or Fnatic(Kiwi, TT1, Fenix, Gretorp. Sen, Lucifrion)



Yeah, Those teams are way better than Dignitas. SeleCT is probably the best in that team. Nani needs to learn to play on more than one base. People saying they should send nani to Korea makes me laugh. Nani would just be a worse version of ChoyafOu.


I think the dignitas lineup isn't too far from mouz/Fnatic/ROOT and slightly stronger than EG.


Including IdrA/Demuslim in this equation? I'm pretty sure IdrA could allkill Dignitas in a CW, but even so, if you compare IdrA/Demuslim/Machine/InControl/Inka to Naniwa/Sjow/Select/Bischu/Killer, EG is better in 3-4 of those matchups, and then Axslav/Lz/StrifeCro are much stronger than the remainder of Dignitas.

I think Naniwa is world-class, but that doesn't make Dignitas world-class.


EG keeps losing to NrG. I think you vastly overestimate them. When IdrA isn't around they've been showing underwhelming results


I know, they have underwhelming results because they're always using their 5 weakest players for CWs.

It's like saying Dignitas would have underwhelming results without Naniwa, Sjow, and Select. Hmmmmm....



Not really. Only IdrA wasn't part of the line up in both CWs.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
January 22 2011 21:26 GMT
#191
I think people are underrating Machine and InControl. Machine had a really nice run at the last MLG, and there hasn't been any big North American tourneys since then. After watching the GSL code A tournament they're easily both code A material.

I think once EG and Dignitas get more players in Korea there's going to be shitload more foreigners in GSL, although I don't know if that's still the plan with the foreign scene improving.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 23 2011 05:54 GMT
#192
Very cool to see more people joining their ranks, more foreigners ftw!
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syth13
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6 Posts
January 23 2011 23:53 GMT
#193
Congratz to Sjow winning the European champ
Whatthefu- cannons??
anyuta34i
Profile Joined January 2011
Albania9 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 03:09:37
January 25 2011 03:09 GMT
#194
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FlashIsHigh
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States474 Posts
January 26 2011 09:55 GMT
#195
Dignitas house for Korea?!!?!?!?! With Select, Sjow, and Naniwa this is such a solid team and if the zerg players were buffed a lil more this could easily be at least a Code A caliber team in Korea
KT Flash// WhiteRa/Scarlett/Naniwa/MC/Huk/Nony
Spacebenzo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States19 Posts
January 26 2011 15:44 GMT
#196
I gotta say, this is terrifying. If i was a pro team, I'd be scared
MrSpider
Profile Joined January 2011
France173 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-30 00:22:30
January 27 2011 00:11 GMT
#197
On January 23 2011 01:05 Desutroyah wrote:
I dont understand the naniwa hate, theres like tons of videos of idra bming but i havent seen one video with him bming. Never. And hes saying he wants to change, why are you still trashing him? doesnt that show something?


I hope he will get to korea, to learn that "from humble beginnings come great things"

Les androïdes rêvent-ils de moutons électriques ?
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
April 04 2011 20:33 GMT
#198
Dignitas fighting! Oh how much he has grown!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
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