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PlayXP interview with GSL3 Winner

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LuciferSC
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada535 Posts
December 18 2010 12:55 GMT
#1
Short Interview with oGsMC, the winner of GSL Open Season 3

Original Post (In korean):
http://www.playxp.com/sc2/news/view.php?article_id=2464681


Q: First, your thoughts/feelings on winning GSL?

A: It felt good when I realized I had won, but I only really realized it once I got my hands on the trophy.

Q: Your tournament win came after transitioning from Pro-gamer status. Your thoughts on that?

A: I think all the hyungs (older teammates) will be very envious of me.


Q: This was the first GSL win for Protoss. Your thoughts?

A: I believe my win showed that [Protoss] can be powerful when its units are used to their maximum potential.
I have 10+ builds I can use against Terran.
I plan on showing much more powerful builds next season.


Q: Your plans on using the prize money?

A: I had this planned before the Final.
10k will be given to team, 10k to myself and the rest to my mother. (currency value may not be accurate)


Q: What makes you so confident?

A: My high winning ratio during practice makes me confident. If I was to lose a lot [during practice], I wouldn't have this kind of confidence.


Q: What are your plans 'till next season?

A: Since I have other tournaments scheduled, I don't have any time to rest.
I need to practice for the tournaments I received invitation to.


Q: There wasn't any showing of using Warp Prism prior to your Finals. Do you think your game will have influence on other Protoss players?

A: 2nd set went in a direction that was not planned by me.
Terran player doing tank oriented build cannot match the mobility of Warp Prism.
That's the reason I used Warp Prism, for its mobility.
When I watch other Protoss games, I feel that their understanding of Terran match up is low.
I cannot reveal my own know-how, but once they understand it, victory will come a lot easier.


Q: Was your proxy gateway in 4th set planned?

A: I used proxy gate as I had confidence in my micro control.
I believe TsLRain's cheese rush is very powerful.
Proxy gate was my way of showing confidence.


Q: We were anticipating some kidn of ceremony, but did not see any. Do you regret not doing it?

A: It was difficult to do ceremonies.
I did not know the timing when Camera goes on me.
I plan on studying cameras so I can do my ceremony at the right timing.


Q: You had bad results in prior seasons, but you were able to take the tournament this season.
What sort of change made that possible?

A: Because I began committing to SC2 not even a month after I announced my transition, I had low level of understanding of the game.
I thought it would be difficult even to get past the preliminary rounds.
In season 2 I joined up oGs Clan, and I grew with every defeat against NesTea.
Looking back, those games vs. Nestea allowed me to grow.
To be honest, I wanted to face Nestea in the final this season.


Q: Any regrets on transitioning to SC2 from BW?

A: It is very difficult as a B team player [in BW].
As they have [SC2] tournaments every month, you get A team player treatment once you make it to round of 16.
In the past, it was hard not having teammates, but such problem went away after joining oGs clan.
It was the right choice.


Q: Your goal for the future?

A: My goal is to become the world champion on world [SC2] league.
I wish to become the first player to win consecutive seasons.
I plan on getting good results on various tournaments next year.
I wish to become a gamer that everyone remembers.
I don't believe one win cuts it. I have plans on doing ceremonies that will have people remember me.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
December 18 2010 12:59 GMT
#2
man does he have some confidence.I totally meant that in a good way.
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shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
December 18 2010 13:00 GMT
#3
10+ builds O_O ok may be exaggerated (Jinro tell us!) but still he's confident and has different builds :O Man I hope he gets his success because I so want to see his ceremonies :D
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Viruuus
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany451 Posts
December 18 2010 13:03 GMT
#4
MC owns, i just love how he is cocky in a funny way that is not really bad mannered
Lee Jae Dong fighting!!!
AlexDeLarge
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania218 Posts
December 18 2010 13:03 GMT
#5
Why is it that every korean gamer who wins a big sum of money, says that he will give most of it to his parents. Aren't they a capitalist country? They should know how to spend/invest money on their own.
Its only after we’ve lost everything that we’re free to do anything
Adila
Profile Joined April 2010
United States874 Posts
December 18 2010 13:07 GMT
#6
On December 18 2010 22:03 AlexDeLarge wrote:
Why is it that every korean gamer who wins a big sum of money, says that he will give most of it to his parents. Aren't they a capitalist country? They should know how to spend/invest money on their own.


It's the culture in Asia. Family, especially parents, are extremely important.
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
December 18 2010 13:10 GMT
#7
MC is only 19. hes still a kid so i dont think it's unwise to give his money to someone who will probably take better care of it.
Art_of_Kill
Profile Joined September 2003
Zaire1232 Posts
December 18 2010 13:11 GMT
#8
On December 18 2010 22:03 AlexDeLarge wrote:
Why is it that every korean gamer who wins a big sum of money, says that he will give most of it to his parents. Aren't they a capitalist country? They should know how to spend/invest money on their own.

they respect their parents
and that is kind of a payback for every good thing their parents did to them
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SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
December 18 2010 13:14 GMT
#9
hands down the best Korean interview in SC2 so far, i will read this many times
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dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
December 18 2010 13:17 GMT
#10
They live with their families longer in asian cultures, so he respects them and will give them his money O.o that's just how things work. Most western people would do the same actually.

Anyway, MC really was the best player, he destroyed all terrans and made PvT look imba considering most P just lose to some marauder push, it was awesome to watch I'm glad he finally won.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Sanski
Profile Joined August 2010
United States57 Posts
December 18 2010 13:22 GMT
#11
On December 18 2010 22:07 Adila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 22:03 AlexDeLarge wrote:
Why is it that every korean gamer who wins a big sum of money, says that he will give most of it to his parents. Aren't they a capitalist country? They should know how to spend/invest money on their own.


It's the culture in Asia. Family, especially parents, are extremely important.


ditto. Its somewhat a tradition to give your first paycheck (or at least a part of it) to your parents as a way of saying thanks for bringing you up (food, shelter, care, love, education,etc.etc.).
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44353 Posts
December 18 2010 13:24 GMT
#12
Congratulations!

Protoss Fighting!!!

I'm really impressed by him

+ Show Spoiler +
Now I can't wait to hear all the QQ about how Protoss must be nerfed because Protoss won- the common non sequitur for any race and tournament -.-'
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Setev
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Malaysia390 Posts
December 18 2010 13:27 GMT
#13
On December 18 2010 22:03 AlexDeLarge wrote:
Why is it that every korean gamer who wins a big sum of money, says that he will give most of it to his parents. Aren't they a capitalist country? They should know how to spend/invest money on their own.


Its called filial piety mate. Its a big thing in Asia, a culture thing.

Now eagerly awaiting for the Terran meister to reveal himself in 2011. Will it be MVP? He's kinda disappointing though, going out so early to Choya.
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AlexDeLarge
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania218 Posts
December 18 2010 13:28 GMT
#14
On December 18 2010 22:22 Sanski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 22:07 Adila wrote:
On December 18 2010 22:03 AlexDeLarge wrote:
Why is it that every korean gamer who wins a big sum of money, says that he will give most of it to his parents. Aren't they a capitalist country? They should know how to spend/invest money on their own.


It's the culture in Asia. Family, especially parents, are extremely important.


ditto. Its somewhat a tradition to give your first paycheck (or at least a part of it) to your parents as a way of saying thanks for bringing you up (food, shelter, care, love, education,etc.etc.).


I dunno man.. Where i live, a better way of saying thanks for all that to your parents if you make that kind of money is to develop a nice hobby of snorting cocaine and getting acquainted with half the brothels and erotic massage parlors in the city. I think it pretty much defines the term baller.
Its only after we’ve lost everything that we’re free to do anything
Toddler
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania3 Posts
December 18 2010 13:33 GMT
#15
screw you ban me

User was temp banned for this post.
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
December 18 2010 13:35 GMT
#16
Great!

I liked his playstyle.

Let the Reign of the Protoss begin.
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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
December 18 2010 13:44 GMT
#17
On December 18 2010 22:03 AlexDeLarge wrote:
Why is it that every korean gamer who wins a big sum of money, says that he will give most of it to his parents. Aren't they a capitalist country? They should know how to spend/invest money on their own.

Confucianism is deeply rooted in societies of east asia. As someone mentioned already, filial piety (respect that a child should show to his/her parents) is one of the most important and stressed aspect of the philosophy.
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
December 18 2010 13:45 GMT
#18
He really showed us how good he is in that lost temple game.And he's so confident!
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
AlexDeLarge
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania218 Posts
December 18 2010 13:53 GMT
#19
On December 18 2010 22:27 Setev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 22:03 AlexDeLarge wrote:
Why is it that every korean gamer who wins a big sum of money, says that he will give most of it to his parents. Aren't they a capitalist country? They should know how to spend/invest money on their own.


Its called filial piety mate. Its a big thing in Asia, a culture thing.

Now eagerly awaiting for the Terran meister to reveal himself in 2011. Will it be MVP? He's kinda disappointing though, going out so early to Choya.


Cool. I imagined it's a tradition thing, didn't know there's an actual philosophy wrapped around it though. Learned something new today, thanks.
Its only after we’ve lost everything that we’re free to do anything
Iamyournoob
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany595 Posts
December 18 2010 13:54 GMT
#20
Good mindset. I really believe that being so confident can give you a great edge in tournaments. I like his honesty and he seems to be realistic and analytical. He said he wasn't that good - then he trained and improved.

I am glad to see a protoss win GSL 3 nad I believe that PvT will see a lot of dynamic in hte future.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4501 Posts
December 18 2010 13:56 GMT
#21
Haha he's going to study cameras.

What a baller.
hi. big fan.
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 14:04:01
December 18 2010 14:03 GMT
#22
how can one study cameras? oO
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Blobskillz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany548 Posts
December 18 2010 14:08 GMT
#23
On December 18 2010 22:28 AlexDeLarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 22:22 Sanski wrote:
On December 18 2010 22:07 Adila wrote:
On December 18 2010 22:03 AlexDeLarge wrote:
Why is it that every korean gamer who wins a big sum of money, says that he will give most of it to his parents. Aren't they a capitalist country? They should know how to spend/invest money on their own.


It's the culture in Asia. Family, especially parents, are extremely important.


ditto. Its somewhat a tradition to give your first paycheck (or at least a part of it) to your parents as a way of saying thanks for bringing you up (food, shelter, care, love, education,etc.etc.).


I dunno man.. Where i live, a better way of saying thanks for all that to your parents if you make that kind of money is to develop a nice hobby of snorting cocaine and getting acquainted with half the brothels and erotic massage parlors in the city. I think it pretty much defines the term baller.


now I know why your country is doing so great
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
December 18 2010 14:09 GMT
#24
Not surprised, only surprised at the fact that there was no ceremony.
Ohs noes, warp prism is out of the bag - I knew it'd be a turning point for toss.
I just was hoping that its exposure would be delayed... of course speaking as a non-toss.
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
CanucksJC
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1241 Posts
December 18 2010 14:10 GMT
#25
Oh this is already translated...I was just about to work on this lawl
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Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
December 18 2010 14:20 GMT
#26
my guess is they give the money to the parents cuz money is family business. probably they dont know how to get max yields, so the parents care about this.

remember, even though the clan is called "old Generations" they guy is only 19 years old...
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KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
December 18 2010 14:24 GMT
#27
oh man hes gona study the camera's!!!
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T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
December 18 2010 14:28 GMT
#28
He should have been allowed to pose like a pirate on the moveable stands during gsl
Stratchka
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria165 Posts
December 18 2010 14:41 GMT
#29
Entertaining in both playstyle and personality! A deserving champion!
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Jameser
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden951 Posts
December 18 2010 14:56 GMT
#30
I like how the winner of the GSL is the race that people are complaining about as being the weakest lol..
exception being nestea cus zerg wasn't really weak then
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 15:05:19
December 18 2010 15:04 GMT
#31
On December 18 2010 22:28 AlexDeLarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 22:22 Sanski wrote:
On December 18 2010 22:07 Adila wrote:
On December 18 2010 22:03 AlexDeLarge wrote:
Why is it that every korean gamer who wins a big sum of money, says that he will give most of it to his parents. Aren't they a capitalist country? They should know how to spend/invest money on their own.


It's the culture in Asia. Family, especially parents, are extremely important.


ditto. Its somewhat a tradition to give your first paycheck (or at least a part of it) to your parents as a way of saying thanks for bringing you up (food, shelter, care, love, education,etc.etc.).


I dunno man.. Where i live, a better way of saying thanks for all that to your parents if you make that kind of money is to develop a nice hobby of snorting cocaine and getting acquainted with half the brothels and erotic massage parlors in the city. I think it pretty much defines the term baller.



Its not just culture, in the end whatever money you give to your parents is going to come back to you as your inheritance. Also the older generations in asian families in general are very careful about spending, and do not spend too much on partying, travelling and other social activities which are prevalent in the west. Giving back the money to parents is a way of keeping themselves grounded and helps keep the money secure, so that they can have a safe future with the investment.
Envy fan since NTH.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 15:07:34
December 18 2010 15:06 GMT
#32
On December 18 2010 22:03 AlexDeLarge wrote:
Why is it that every korean gamer who wins a big sum of money, says that he will give most of it to his parents. Aren't they a capitalist country? They should know how to spend/invest money on their own.


I dunno dude, if you think of the cost for your parents to raise you, it seems VERY selfish that the few kids that win a lot of money that they don't really need it to not give at least some back to their parents.
And MC wouldn't be so good if he didn't have oGs to pay, feed, and supply a progaming house and practice partners, so again, makes sense to give back. 90% of oGs players will not be able to pay back so its good that he can.

I mean, normally people work and have enough trouble supporting for themselves and possibly their own potential kids, but this is a rare sum of money for a young person to win.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
December 18 2010 15:13 GMT
#33
Most people I know that have a sudden rice in financial success tend to give money to their family (cars, house, cash etc). The only difference here is that Koreans is very upfront about it.
ensis
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany340 Posts
December 18 2010 15:18 GMT
#34
Gosugamers.net Interview:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm very happy, I won but I made a mistake in set 3 so that's been wandering in my head.

My mom pops up in my head first, and then my oGs team members. oGsGon, oGsTheWind and oGs.

Now I have a 100,000,000 won. And when I win in Code S, I will make you richer.

When did you first think you were going to win?

- In the first set, my opponent played as he expected, so Terrans are still below me. I expected a cheese rush in most games, but Rain showed different strategies. It was a bit startling, but I could hold it off.

I don't think there's anyone out there who can beat me. If I play Terran I would have won three times. I won as a Protoss because I'm so good.


um, are those different interviews?

anyways, damn, the last line made me lol so fucking hard. whether hes an arrogant, an idiot or smth else. just hearing those words from a korean m*************cking PROGAMER gives me hope. not balancewise, but i just missed honest words from progamers, because its so rare to hear them complaining
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peeeky
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada631 Posts
December 18 2010 15:21 GMT
#35
On December 19 2010 00:18 ensis wrote:
Gosugamers.net Interview:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm very happy, I won but I made a mistake in set 3 so that's been wandering in my head.

My mom pops up in my head first, and then my oGs team members. oGsGon, oGsTheWind and oGs.

Now I have a 100,000,000 won. And when I win in Code S, I will make you richer.

When did you first think you were going to win?

- In the first set, my opponent played as he expected, so Terrans are still below me. I expected a cheese rush in most games, but Rain showed different strategies. It was a bit startling, but I could hold it off.

I don't think there's anyone out there who can beat me. If I play Terran I would have won three times. I won as a Protoss because I'm so good.


um, are those different interviews?

anyways, damn, the last line made me lol so fucking hard. whether hes an arrogant, an idiot or smth else. just hearing those words from a korean m*************cking PROGAMER gives me hope. not balancewise, but i just missed honest words from progamers, because its so rare to hear them complaining


That was the interview right after he won, this one is probably when they got to sit down and interview him.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4501 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 15:23:44
December 18 2010 15:23 GMT
#36
On December 19 2010 00:18 ensis wrote:
Gosugamers.net Interview:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm very happy, I won but I made a mistake in set 3 so that's been wandering in my head.

My mom pops up in my head first, and then my oGs team members. oGsGon, oGsTheWind and oGs.

Now I have a 100,000,000 won. And when I win in Code S, I will make you richer.

When did you first think you were going to win?

- In the first set, my opponent played as he expected, so Terrans are still below me. I expected a cheese rush in most games, but Rain showed different strategies. It was a bit startling, but I could hold it off.

I don't think there's anyone out there who can beat me. If I play Terran I would have won three times. I won as a Protoss because I'm so good.


um, are those different interviews?

anyways, damn, the last line made me lol so fucking hard. whether hes an arrogant, an idiot or smth else. just hearing those words from a korean m*************cking PROGAMER gives me hope. not balancewise, but i just missed honest words from progamers, because its so rare to hear them complaining

Yeah and I think he's right too. PvT is usually about even but MC makes it look totally Protoss favored. What was he in GSL? like 16-2 in PvT? Damn, that's just dominance.
hi. big fan.
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
December 18 2010 15:23 GMT
#37
Ooooo.. Glad that he won although I was hopping for a 4-3 or a 3-4 to see more games
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
December 18 2010 15:30 GMT
#38
On December 18 2010 23:20 Heimatloser wrote:
my guess is they give the money to the parents cuz money is family business. probably they dont know how to get max yields, so the parents care about this.

remember, even though the clan is called "old Generations" they guy is only 19 years old...

You're wrong, it's Old Generation Starcrafters.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Bluedraqy
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark496 Posts
December 18 2010 15:32 GMT
#39
I am starting to really like MC, he's the kind of person we need for SC2, both as a gamer, but also as a Person.
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
December 18 2010 16:29 GMT
#40
10k to team...oGs BW style jackets?? Now that would be awesome
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
December 18 2010 16:34 GMT
#41
On December 19 2010 01:29 Tennet wrote:
10k to team...oGs BW style jackets?? Now that would be awesome


what do you mean?
They do have jerseys and jackets?
Do you mean the big coats that lecaf oz and cj had?
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
December 18 2010 16:36 GMT
#42
The NASCAR style jackets because they look sweet as hell, I love their current outfit but they would look more bad ass.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
lowercase
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1047 Posts
December 18 2010 16:39 GMT
#43
STX_Soul has some wicked jackets.
That is not dead which can eternal lie...
ensis
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany340 Posts
December 18 2010 17:04 GMT
#44
On December 19 2010 00:23 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2010 00:18 ensis wrote:
Gosugamers.net Interview:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm very happy, I won but I made a mistake in set 3 so that's been wandering in my head.

My mom pops up in my head first, and then my oGs team members. oGsGon, oGsTheWind and oGs.

Now I have a 100,000,000 won. And when I win in Code S, I will make you richer.

When did you first think you were going to win?

- In the first set, my opponent played as he expected, so Terrans are still below me. I expected a cheese rush in most games, but Rain showed different strategies. It was a bit startling, but I could hold it off.

I don't think there's anyone out there who can beat me. If I play Terran I would have won three times. I won as a Protoss because I'm so good.


um, are those different interviews?

anyways, damn, the last line made me lol so fucking hard. whether hes an arrogant, an idiot or smth else. just hearing those words from a korean m*************cking PROGAMER gives me hope. not balancewise, but i just missed honest words from progamers, because its so rare to hear them complaining

Yeah and I think he's right too. PvT is usually about even but MC makes it look totally Protoss favored. What was he in GSL? like 16-2 in PvT? Damn, that's just dominance.


he isnt calling it even, he says, terran has an advantage. and thats even more sick.
i mean, you just won the gsl, walk onto the stage and tell everyone, you play toss, because its weak and playing terran wouldnt be a challange!

on the other hand terrans apologize, that they win games!

quite strange, but funny nontheless!
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Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
December 18 2010 17:23 GMT
#45
Some times certain players make certain matchups look imba. Iloveoov did it in TvZ, Savior did it in ZvP, then Bisu did it for a while in PvZ. But really, it isn't the matchup, it's just one great player who happens to have an exceptional understanding of how to win a certain kind of game.

MC is on that level in PvT. No other Toss in the world can play the matchup the way he does.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
susySquark
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1692 Posts
December 18 2010 17:37 GMT
#46
On December 19 2010 02:23 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Some times certain players make certain matchups look imba. Iloveoov did it in TvZ, Savior did it in ZvP, then Bisu did it for a while in PvZ. But really, it isn't the matchup, it's just one great player who happens to have an exceptional understanding of how to win a certain kind of game.

MC is on that level in PvT. No other Toss in the world can play the matchup the way he does.

Jaedong made ZvZ into JvZ. MC is on the verge of making PvT turn into MCvT.
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
December 18 2010 17:39 GMT
#47
On December 18 2010 22:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Congratulations!

Protoss Fighting!!!

I'm really impressed by him

+ Show Spoiler +
Now I can't wait to hear all the QQ about how Protoss must be nerfed because Protoss won- the common non sequitur for any race and tournament -.-'


I doubt there will be much QQ about toss this time as his opponent is what more people are QQ'ing about
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
XXXSmOke
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1333 Posts
December 18 2010 17:58 GMT
#48
I am not excited to see the influx of MC strats into the ladder now...

one gate proxy
Void ray
Warp prism use

P is going to be even scarier now that they have somebody to stand by.

FD and Nestea did it for Z

Foxer completely redefined Terran

And now Protoss has there hero.

The game is coming to life gentlemen war will bring us all of its glory and horror
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0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
December 18 2010 19:08 GMT
#49
On December 19 2010 02:23 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Some times certain players make certain matchups look imba. Iloveoov did it in TvZ, Savior did it in ZvP, then Bisu did it for a while in PvZ. But really, it isn't the matchup, it's just one great player who happens to have an exceptional understanding of how to win a certain kind of game.

MC is on that level in PvT. No other Toss in the world can play the matchup the way he does.

Very well put, my good man. I got the same vibes.
IAttackYou
Profile Joined August 2010
United States330 Posts
December 18 2010 19:53 GMT
#50
he pull scv, me probe probe probe, me win!
I'm not a nub, I'm gosu of tomorrow
fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
December 18 2010 21:52 GMT
#51
On December 19 2010 02:37 susySquark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2010 02:23 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Some times certain players make certain matchups look imba. Iloveoov did it in TvZ, Savior did it in ZvP, then Bisu did it for a while in PvZ. But really, it isn't the matchup, it's just one great player who happens to have an exceptional understanding of how to win a certain kind of game.

MC is on that level in PvT. No other Toss in the world can play the matchup the way he does.

Jaedong made ZvZ into JvZ. MC is on the verge of making PvT turn into MCvT.


LOL +1 MC = 4th race!
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
December 18 2010 21:56 GMT
#52
mc mentions he understands terran matchups in a way most players don't. Anyone know what secret he might be talking about? I'm rather curious myself
z00t
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia976 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 23:12:41
December 18 2010 23:12 GMT
#53
What a baller interview . Especially intrigued by his comments about Warp Prisms. I don't main Protoss, but I just assumed that if Warp Prisms aren't usually used by pros, then they must not be worth taking up that Colossus build time on the Robo.

It's interesting to see that MC cites heavy tank play specifically as one of the situations in which Warp Prisms are useful.

@ JoeSchmoe - I think that there is no single, game-changing 'secret' about PvT that's going to suddenly revolutionise the matchup. I believe MC's just referring to his incredible understanding of Terran builds, and responding appropriately and boldly (like with the Warp Prism use). Both his usage of Warp Prisms in Game 2 and Phoenixes in game 1 really demonstrated high-mobility Protoss in action.

FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4501 Posts
December 19 2010 00:12 GMT
#54
On December 19 2010 02:04 ensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2010 00:23 FataLe wrote:
On December 19 2010 00:18 ensis wrote:
Gosugamers.net Interview:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm very happy, I won but I made a mistake in set 3 so that's been wandering in my head.

My mom pops up in my head first, and then my oGs team members. oGsGon, oGsTheWind and oGs.

Now I have a 100,000,000 won. And when I win in Code S, I will make you richer.

When did you first think you were going to win?

- In the first set, my opponent played as he expected, so Terrans are still below me. I expected a cheese rush in most games, but Rain showed different strategies. It was a bit startling, but I could hold it off.

I don't think there's anyone out there who can beat me. If I play Terran I would have won three times. I won as a Protoss because I'm so good.


um, are those different interviews?

anyways, damn, the last line made me lol so fucking hard. whether hes an arrogant, an idiot or smth else. just hearing those words from a korean m*************cking PROGAMER gives me hope. not balancewise, but i just missed honest words from progamers, because its so rare to hear them complaining

Yeah and I think he's right too. PvT is usually about even but MC makes it look totally Protoss favored. What was he in GSL? like 16-2 in PvT? Damn, that's just dominance.


he isnt calling it even, he says, terran has an advantage. and thats even more sick.
i mean, you just won the gsl, walk onto the stage and tell everyone, you play toss, because its weak and playing terran wouldnt be a challange!

on the other hand terrans apologize, that they win games!

quite strange, but funny nontheless!

I guess your right, most Top Korean Protoss agree Terran is a bit overpowered. I just said it's about even because of the statistics and such, and even then I'm not sure.
hi. big fan.
seanisgrand
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1039 Posts
December 19 2010 00:16 GMT
#55
LOL MC so skilled he even wants to know camera timings so he can celebrate with maximum efficiency. What a boss.
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MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
December 19 2010 00:22 GMT
#56
Yay ceremonies! The GSL gets more exciting every season!
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Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
December 19 2010 00:30 GMT
#57
BossTosssss
It's so easy to be a fan I can't wait to see the ceremonies he's planning!
KTY
JJEOS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States127 Posts
December 19 2010 00:34 GMT
#58
MC's timing is crazy. How he know's the exact time when to break a contain blows my fucking mind.
If at first you don't suceed, deny you were ever apart of it.
CheekyDude
Profile Joined December 2010
United States19 Posts
December 19 2010 00:35 GMT
#59
he is the best toss player for now, i really think that he deserved to win this gsl
starcraft is the chess of our generation
Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
December 19 2010 01:20 GMT
#60
I plan on studying cameras so I can do my ceremony at the right timing.

Only SC2 pros actually practice ceremony/camera timings. <3 MC and SC2.
Do an arranged marriage if she's not completely minging, and don't worry about dancing, get a go-kart, cheers.
bearhug
Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
December 19 2010 03:28 GMT
#61
On December 18 2010 22:03 AlexDeLarge wrote:
Why is it that every korean gamer who wins a big sum of money, says that he will give most of it to his parents. Aren't they a capitalist country? They should know how to spend/invest money on their own.


It's very common in asia, especially east asia.

Their parents take care of the money and save it in the bank. So when their son get married, the saved money will be used for wedding, housing, etc. Most parents won't spend the money on themselves unless absolutely necessary.
We are dusts in the vast cosmic arena. Need to make the most out of life when we still have it.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
December 19 2010 06:30 GMT
#62
bump for appreciation of translation. Thanks!
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bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
December 19 2010 06:44 GMT
#63
Gogo oGsMC !! Have to love the confidence-sc2 needs personalities!! So glad he made it.. Agh amazing!
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
PapaDragon
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany57 Posts
December 19 2010 22:27 GMT
#64
Hi there,

can someone write down the little interview the women had with MC right after he won the last set of the Finals ?
I couldnt hear John very good because she was talkin corea so loud, but since John was laughing several times, it must have been funny and i would really like to know why.

thx
Quote what?
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
December 20 2010 17:37 GMT
#65
On December 18 2010 22:03 AlexDeLarge wrote:
Why is it that every korean gamer who wins a big sum of money, says that he will give most of it to his parents. Aren't they a capitalist country? They should know how to spend/invest money on their own.


I would definitely give a huge portion to my parents. Not only is this a shitty economy to invest in for the average person, but I'd sooner pay back my parents for paying for my tuition, and help with the mortgage since they are struggling. It's not like he won the lotto. That money will dry up quite fast actually.
Contagious
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1319 Posts
December 24 2010 03:19 GMT
#66
On December 18 2010 22:03 AlexDeLarge wrote:
Why is it that every korean gamer who wins a big sum of money, says that he will give most of it to his parents. Aren't they a capitalist country? They should know how to spend/invest money on their own.

even with my family now, who are well off, I would give them most of my winnings.. because I'm too much of an idiot at the moment to know how to budget 50k+.
t3tsubo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada682 Posts
December 24 2010 03:38 GMT
#67
i love how he plans to study the camera movements to know when to perform his ceremony. That's so baller
climax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1088 Posts
December 24 2010 04:24 GMT
#68
Great interview. A strong confident man in his gaming skills. I'm glad to see it. He deserved the win with the way he was playing.
Twitter: @JonathanRosales
Zaurus
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore676 Posts
December 24 2010 05:21 GMT
#69
On December 24 2010 12:19 Contagious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 22:03 AlexDeLarge wrote:
Why is it that every korean gamer who wins a big sum of money, says that he will give most of it to his parents. Aren't they a capitalist country? They should know how to spend/invest money on their own.

even with my family now, who are well off, I would give them most of my winnings.. because I'm too much of an idiot at the moment to know how to budget 50k+.


I just feel is the right thing to do. You have to support your parents cause they supported you in the past.
yrag89
Profile Joined July 2008
Malaysia315 Posts
December 24 2010 05:24 GMT
#70
FBH already mastered camera timing. MC need to learn from him.
secondly morrow is a korean pro who plays terran what the hell did you expect lol - charlie420247
LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
December 24 2010 07:14 GMT
#71
MC fighting!

MC gave some great games this season, and realy made TvP look like a piece of cake! and lol he did distribute his money good, and yeah man, later in life in asian families you can give them some of the money you earned just to say "Thx a lot paps" to all those years they took care of you.
champignones
Profile Joined September 2008
Panama160 Posts
December 24 2010 07:16 GMT
#72
its curious how events turns out, in the beginning everybody claimed terran were the greatest, when GSL was announced i imagine terran will be one of the first race to be crowned champion, its amazing how terran is now the only race without tittles, i loved terran in scbw but now, i dont feel that emphatic to them anymore, i feel more identified with the protoss race, so congratulations to MC for rising the protoss race where it deserve to be....the top of the hill yee haw.
you shouldnt worry if everybody ignore you, you should be worry when they dont anymore.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10343 Posts
December 24 2010 07:34 GMT
#73
ditto. Its somewhat a tradition to give your first paycheck (or at least a part of it) to your parents as a way of saying thanks for bringing you up (food, shelter, care, love, education,etc.etc.).


Another, perhaps better, reason is for thanking his parents specifically for supporting his choice to be a gamer.

The raising you get from your parents is only "fair" because they were raised in turn. But of course if they do a "good" job, perhaps better than they were raised by their own parents, you could thank them by doing something like this (in which case, they did a good job by supporting/allowing him be a progamer).

Anyways thanks for the review!

Also, haha at the guy "screw you ban me" rofl
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Reasonable
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine1432 Posts
December 24 2010 08:36 GMT
#74
On December 18 2010 22:03 AlexDeLarge wrote:
Why is it that every korean gamer who wins a big sum of money, says that he will give most of it to his parents. Aren't they a capitalist country? They should know how to spend/invest money on their own.

Because a pro-gamer that's been playing SC all his life knows jack about investing. I doubt he would be satisfied with 3% APY on DCs or venture stocks offered by some shady dealer, so he lets his mother make investment decisions. I see nothing out of the ordinary here.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
December 24 2010 09:23 GMT
#75
Cultural thing. I wonder if there is any western culture/family who does the same thing like almost all Asian families.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
December 24 2010 10:09 GMT
#76
Q: We were anticipating some kidn of ceremony, but did not see any. Do you regret not doing it?

A: It was difficult to do ceremonies.
I did not know the timing when Camera goes on me.
I plan on studying cameras so I can do my ceremony at the right timing.



hahahaha! man this guy really cracks me up, how can you not love someone of thinks things like these?
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
KeepYaCoolBro
Profile Joined October 2010
United States49 Posts
December 24 2010 12:35 GMT
#77
I love Team Liquid and OGs, but MC just seems too cocky and egotistical to me. I understand the need for confidence, but saying you would have won even playing another race just seems BM to me. And practicing your camera timings?? I would say focus on your game or you might not have those cameras on you again.

On the other hand, kudos to him for giving money to family and his team, so he can't be all that bad. But I will not ever be cheering for him to win again.

Jinro Fighting!
DTWolfwood
Profile Joined May 2010
38 Posts
December 24 2010 13:14 GMT
#78
Sweet im liking this guy more and more! A korean pro with a personality on stage woo! bring some western flare to the east!

Also curious y no1 is asking for a buff to the terran since they came in second 3 seasons in a roll! its 'obvious' the other two races are far too OP... god cant even type this with a straight face. XD
No its not Dark Templar
OpRaider
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States307 Posts
December 24 2010 17:23 GMT
#79
On December 24 2010 21:35 KeepYaCoolBro wrote:
I love Team Liquid and OGs, but MC just seems too cocky and egotistical to me. I understand the need for confidence, but saying you would have won even playing another race just seems BM to me. And practicing your camera timings?? I would say focus on your game or you might not have those cameras on you again.

On the other hand, kudos to him for giving money to family and his team, so he can't be all that bad. But I will not ever be cheering for him to win again.

Jinro Fighting!


Someone is taking e-Sports too seriously. "KeepYaCoolBro" and enjoy. It's called entertainment and MC delivers. And idk how you describe MC as egotistical. Its baffling to me.
it is what it is -day9 airplane story
kiniko
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada163 Posts
December 24 2010 18:27 GMT
#80
I doubt the camera timing is the reason why he didn't do any ceremonies. He's 19 in front of such a huge crowd he probably just got nervous. He seemed so awkward holding that trophy in the finals.
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
December 24 2010 19:17 GMT
#81
Yes, the reason that he chooses to give much of his earnings to his parents can be traced all the way back to Confucius. Confucius espoused an ideology that emphasized hierarchical piety...or to word it better, the relationship between kids and parents, leader and subjects, older brother and younger brother. Benevolence. Western culture, on the other hand, emerged from what can be traced back to the platonic era, whereby ideas such as the importance of the state was highest (refer to Plato's Republic)
SoSss
Profile Joined November 2010
United States22 Posts
December 24 2010 19:34 GMT
#82
On December 24 2010 21:35 KeepYaCoolBro wrote:
I love Team Liquid and OGs, but MC just seems too cocky and egotistical to me. I understand the need for confidence, but saying you would have won even playing another race just seems BM to me. And practicing your camera timings?? I would say focus on your game or you might not have those cameras on you again.

On the other hand, kudos to him for giving money to family and his team, so he can't be all that bad. But I will not ever be cheering for him to win again.

Jinro Fighting!


I been rooting for a Toss player to win GSL since the start. So glad that MC won. Funny how my girlfried says the same thing about MC "too cocky and egotistical". But me on the other hand feel like what he is doing and saying is great. I'm glad a guy who isn't afraid to say how he really feels is on top now makes fo GGs in the furture when rivals meet up. But this is how everything works in sports. Some people like the player some don't, thats why we are fans.

I'll be cheering for MC to win every match he is in!!!
~Stamp Ownage Squad~
sharky246
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1197 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-25 04:08:59
December 24 2010 23:11 GMT
#83
On December 18 2010 22:03 AlexDeLarge wrote:
Why is it that every korean gamer who wins a big sum of money, says that he will give most of it to his parents. Aren't they a capitalist country? They should know how to spend/invest money on their own.


Your average korean parent QQs about how you need to become a doctor or a lawyer like you QQ about sc2 balance, so you need to keep them satisfied
On January 03 2011 13:14 IdrA wrote: being high on the ladder doesnt get you any closer to your goal. Avoiding practice to protect your rating is absurd. If you want to be good go play 40 games a day and stop thinking about becoming a pro.
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
December 25 2010 10:51 GMT
#84
Good read!
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HueHang
Profile Joined August 2010
73 Posts
December 25 2010 12:51 GMT
#85
Nicely done. I am looking for his future games as they are inspiring for me as a Protoss player
Rojato
Profile Joined August 2010
Nicaragua23 Posts
December 25 2010 15:54 GMT
#86
Finally a protoss player that can defeat Terran!
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
December 25 2010 16:08 GMT
#87
oGsMC inspires me so much with his solid play,

im so glad he won, makes me proud to be a protoss player
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
December 26 2010 00:18 GMT
#88
ogsmc is awesome, i can't wait for him to show us some more of his amazing play in the future.
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piskooooo
Profile Joined November 2008
United States351 Posts
December 26 2010 02:20 GMT
#89
I like him, but I hope he doesn't become the next FBH with all this ceremony shit.
<3 MKP
Gudeldar
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1200 Posts
December 27 2010 05:39 GMT
#90
On December 26 2010 11:20 piskooooo wrote:
I like him, but I hope he doesn't become the next FBH with all this ceremony shit.


Ha, I hope he becomes FBH x 2. I love awesome and intricate ceremonies.
iwantsushi
Profile Joined October 2010
India128 Posts
December 27 2010 18:56 GMT
#91
On December 24 2010 12:19 Contagious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 22:03 AlexDeLarge wrote:
Why is it that every korean gamer who wins a big sum of money, says that he will give most of it to his parents. Aren't they a capitalist country? They should know how to spend/invest money on their own.

even with my family now, who are well off, I would give them most of my winnings.. because I'm too much of an idiot at the moment to know how to budget 50k+.

if ur smart enough to know that, ur not an idiot
" i like protoss because they're clean" - " "
Vindubs
Profile Joined May 2010
United States110 Posts
December 27 2010 20:56 GMT
#92
I would definitely take care of my mother thats not even an argument
Stephano,Sase,Naniwa HWAITING!
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
December 30 2010 14:56 GMT
#93
I love the ceremonies! definitely a reason to watch. *finger shake* MC is a boss and a peoples man.
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