EPTHere are the team numbers (feel free to edit this into OP):
8 oGs
6 Prime.WE
4 TSL
4 ZeNEX
3 f0u
2 IM
1 sls
1 TL
1 NsP
1 ST
1 EG
GSL4: Code S Groups finalized. - Page 9
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mprs
Canada2933 Posts
Here are the team numbers (feel free to edit this into OP): 8 oGs 6 Prime.WE 4 TSL 4 ZeNEX 3 f0u 2 IM 1 sls 1 TL 1 NsP 1 ST 1 EG | ||
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Klamity
United States994 Posts
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koOma
Norway462 Posts
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EsMors
53 Posts
TvZ: 14 TvP: 12 TvT: 8 ZvP: 5 PvP: 5 ZvZ: 4 I wouldn't say that's so many mirrors. Actualy, I love the way they are drawing the groups. How boring would it be if every season would look almost the same, because they have to take teams, races and nationality into account? Stuff like Jinro and Idra being in the same group is great, it adds tension and makes everything more dramatic. In a year, I will be able to remember this tournament, because it will be the one where Idra and Jinro had to play against eachother early, and where oGs had a lot of team kills. If they hand picked the groups so everything was as "fair" and homogenous as possible, none of the tournaments would have anything special about them. | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
On December 15 2010 00:50 syllogism wrote: There are several easier groups, depending on which players you'd replace idra/jinro with. Not lucky at all really. Yeah, replace Idra with 17-32 seed with some other 17-32 seed players. Like put him in Group F instead of sanZenith. Or in Group B instead of jookTo. Or E instead of Anypro. Those groups would all be harder for Idra imho. Ensare didnt show anything after GSL1. Check is about the same level as Idra. And I'd give Idra the edge over Jinro in a macro game. Of course you can go "Well - let's switch Idra (17-32seed) with Nestea (Top8 seed)" and he's going to have an easier group. But that doesnt make sense. I'm honestly more worried about the BO1 stuff. Cheese & Allins prevail! | ||
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reprise
Canada316 Posts
 Ensnare and Check aren't bad players, but I can see Jinro and Idra making it out pretty easy so not much worry there. | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
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Bear4188
United States1797 Posts
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mprs
Canada2933 Posts
On December 15 2010 02:54 Bear4188 wrote: My feeling is that IdrA and Jinro are the better players in that group, but it's a Bo1 from what I understand so it's entirely possible for them to both lose as well. or both of them to win | ||
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Kyouya
Mexico318 Posts
On December 15 2010 02:53 reprise wrote: Poor group F. Hopefully Nada makes it out Ensnare and Check aren't bad players, but I can see Jinro and Idra making it out pretty easy so not much worry there.Hahaha what!? More like ENSNARE and Jinro, Ensnare is a B-E-A-S-T. | ||
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Khalum
Austria831 Posts
What the fuck? They put the two foreigners in the same grp? .. wow .. this is stupid. ... which gets really old after 9 pages of ppl telling other ppl that it's based on seeds and drawing? Thanks a lot. [1] http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens3/forum/6819 | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On December 15 2010 01:59 timmyfred wrote: Thanks for that link. I just copied it straight into Excel, added the group for each player, then sorted and summed. Idra/Junro are indeed in the "easiest" group if we use the GSL Code S points as the determination of skill. ![[image loading]](http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/TimmyFredd/GroupPoints.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/TimmyFredd/GroupRanks.jpg) Then again, group F (with Nada, MC, Inca and san) is supposed to be the second easiest going by that criteria. So yeah, I don't think that's exactly an accurate determination of skill. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11088 Posts
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awu25
United States2003 Posts
On December 15 2010 02:54 Senx wrote: What the fuck? They put the two foreigners in the same grp? .. wow .. this is stupid. wtf? the put 4 koreans in the same group? why the hell should they go out of their way to split up the foreigners in a random draw | ||
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riverkim09
United States291 Posts
On December 15 2010 03:08 awu25 wrote: wtf? the put 4 koreans in the same group? why the hell should they go out of their way to split up the foreigners in a random draw Lol agreed. Its just that fanboys here don't want to see foreigners possibly knocking each other hahaha. Remember, GomTV cares about foreigners in the GSL but they still want the Code S dominated by Koreans. | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
On December 15 2010 03:08 awu25 wrote: wtf? the put 4 koreans in the same group? why the hell should they go out of their way to split up the foreigners in a random draw Because GOMTV wants to appeal to the foreign community? They're milking money off of us through their choppy stream, putting the only 2 foreigners to make the 32 man tournament in the same grp isn't exactly a smart business plan. | ||
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Krigwin
1130 Posts
On December 15 2010 03:22 riverkim09 wrote: Lol agreed. Its just that fanboys here don't want to see foreigners possibly knocking each other hahaha. Remember, GomTV cares about foreigners in the GSL but they still want the Code S dominated by Koreans. Because it would be smarter and attract more viewers to split up all the big-names. There's no favoritism or match-fixing there, these guys are all Code S so they should be prepared to fight each other. For example, let's say there are only four players: LegalMind, JooktoJung, Jinro, and Idra. What sounds like a better scenario: LegalMind vs JooktoJung and Jinro vs Idra, or LegalMind vs Idra and JooktoJung vs Jinro? More people want to watch Jinro and Idra, so in the first scenario where one game has neither of them and instead has some relatively unpopular players, you're going to end up with less views overall. In scenario two on the other hand, all 3 games involve a foreigner so you're going to have more views. It's just smart operation of a tournament. People want to watch big names more and they prefer inter-race matches rather than mirror matches. People want to watch team rivalries more than they want to watch teamkills. So it makes perfect sense to split up the big names, races, and teams. Imagine if there was some BW tournament where Flash had to face off against Jaedong in the first round while every other match was between B-team unknowns. That would be completely awful and once one of them were eliminated views for the entire tournament would be cut almost in half. | ||
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MahatmaSC2
United States192 Posts
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