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mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
December 14 2010 17:15 GMT
#161
Luckily, the top 2 from a group advance, so our heroes Jinro and Idra have a chance of both making it. A lot of team killing though for oGs... thats what they get for having 8 players make it.

Here are the team numbers (feel free to edit this into OP):

8 oGs
6 Prime.WE
4 TSL
4 ZeNEX
3 f0u
2 IM
1 sls
1 TL
1 NsP
1 ST
1 EG
We talkin about PRACTICE
Klamity
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States994 Posts
December 14 2010 17:18 GMT
#162
The other upside to Jinro and IdrA being in the same group is that the chances of one of them advancing are significantly improved.
Don't believe in yourself, believe in me, who believes in you.
koOma
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway462 Posts
December 14 2010 17:20 GMT
#163
TESTER ONE TIME!!
He wears a mask so when he dogs his face / Each and every race could absorb the bass /// ST_Life
EsMors
Profile Joined August 2010
53 Posts
December 14 2010 17:26 GMT
#164
Amount of different matchups will be:

TvZ: 14
TvP: 12
TvT: 8
ZvP: 5
PvP: 5
ZvZ: 4


I wouldn't say that's so many mirrors. Actualy, I love the way they are drawing the groups. How boring would it be if every season would look almost the same, because they have to take teams, races and nationality into account? Stuff like Jinro and Idra being in the same group is great, it adds tension and makes everything more dramatic. In a year, I will be able to remember this tournament, because it will be the one where Idra and Jinro had to play against eachother early, and where oGs had a lot of team kills. If they hand picked the groups so everything was as "fair" and homogenous as possible, none of the tournaments would have anything special about them.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
December 14 2010 17:35 GMT
#165
group F has so much teamkill :/
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
December 14 2010 17:52 GMT
#166
On December 15 2010 00:50 syllogism wrote:
There are several easier groups, depending on which players you'd replace idra/jinro with. Not lucky at all really.


Yeah, replace Idra with 17-32 seed with some other 17-32 seed players.
Like put him in Group F instead of sanZenith.
Or in Group B instead of jookTo.
Or E instead of Anypro.
Those groups would all be harder for Idra imho. Ensare didnt show anything after GSL1. Check is about the same level as Idra. And I'd give Idra the edge over Jinro in a macro game.
Of course you can go "Well - let's switch Idra (17-32seed) with Nestea (Top8 seed)" and he's going to have an easier group. But that doesnt make sense.


I'm honestly more worried about the BO1 stuff. Cheese & Allins prevail!
reprise
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada316 Posts
December 14 2010 17:53 GMT
#167
Poor group F. Hopefully Nada makes it out Ensnare and Check aren't bad players, but I can see Jinro and Idra making it out pretty easy so not much worry there.
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Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
December 14 2010 17:54 GMT
#168
What the fuck? They put the two foreigners in the same grp? .. wow .. this is stupid.
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Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
December 14 2010 17:54 GMT
#169
My feeling is that IdrA and Jinro are the better players in that group, but it's a Bo1 from what I understand so it's entirely possible for them to both lose as well.
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
December 14 2010 17:57 GMT
#170
On December 15 2010 02:54 Bear4188 wrote:
My feeling is that IdrA and Jinro are the better players in that group, but it's a Bo1 from what I understand so it's entirely possible for them to both lose as well.


or both of them to win
We talkin about PRACTICE
Kyouya
Profile Joined January 2008
Mexico318 Posts
December 14 2010 18:02 GMT
#171
On December 15 2010 02:53 reprise wrote:
Poor group F. Hopefully Nada makes it out Ensnare and Check aren't bad players, but I can see Jinro and Idra making it out pretty easy so not much worry there.

Hahaha what!? More like ENSNARE and Jinro, Ensnare is a B-E-A-S-T.
Strike First, Strike Hard, Show No Mercy.
Khalum
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria831 Posts
December 14 2010 18:02 GMT
#172
Could someone with the required privileges please update the OP with this [1], so that people stop crying about ...

What the fuck? They put the two foreigners in the same grp? .. wow .. this is stupid.

... which gets really old after 9 pages of ppl telling other ppl that it's based on seeds and drawing?

Thanks a lot.

[1] http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens3/forum/6819
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 18:03:43
December 14 2010 18:03 GMT
#173
On December 15 2010 01:59 timmyfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 01:34 PartyBiscuit wrote:
On December 15 2010 00:56 Koshi wrote:
On December 15 2010 00:50 syllogism wrote:
There are several easier groups, depending on which players you'd replace idra/jinro with. Not lucky at all really.


Somebody will soon count up the points each group achieved over GSL 1,2,3.
I am pretty sure Jinro/Idra group scores pretty low.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GSL_Rankings


Thanks for that link. I just copied it straight into Excel, added the group for each player, then sorted and summed. Idra/Junro are indeed in the "easiest" group if we use the GSL Code S points as the determination of skill.

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Then again, group F (with Nada, MC, Inca and san) is supposed to be the second easiest going by that criteria. So yeah, I don't think that's exactly an accurate determination of skill.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11111 Posts
December 14 2010 18:03 GMT
#174
A bit hypocritical on my part, but I wish the groups ABFG were mixxed up abit. Atleast if they had managed to get approx 1 zerg in every group. Groups E and H are going to be particularally good to watch. E since it's the best toss group H because it's just the best mix over all.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
December 14 2010 18:08 GMT
#175
On December 15 2010 02:54 Senx wrote:
What the fuck? They put the two foreigners in the same grp? .. wow .. this is stupid.

wtf? the put 4 koreans in the same group?
why the hell should they go out of their way to split up the foreigners in a random draw
riverkim09
Profile Joined November 2010
United States291 Posts
December 14 2010 18:22 GMT
#176
On December 15 2010 03:08 awu25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 02:54 Senx wrote:
What the fuck? They put the two foreigners in the same grp? .. wow .. this is stupid.

wtf? the put 4 koreans in the same group?
why the hell should they go out of their way to split up the foreigners in a random draw


Lol agreed. Its just that fanboys here don't want to see foreigners possibly knocking each other hahaha. Remember, GomTV cares about foreigners in the GSL but they still want the Code S dominated by Koreans.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
December 14 2010 18:24 GMT
#177
Wow, group F, 3 of oGs top players, that sucks for oGs...and sanzenith
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Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 18:31:38
December 14 2010 18:31 GMT
#178
On December 15 2010 03:08 awu25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 02:54 Senx wrote:
What the fuck? They put the two foreigners in the same grp? .. wow .. this is stupid.

wtf? the put 4 koreans in the same group?
why the hell should they go out of their way to split up the foreigners in a random draw


Because GOMTV wants to appeal to the foreign community? They're milking money off of us through their choppy stream, putting the only 2 foreigners to make the 32 man tournament in the same grp isn't exactly a smart business plan.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Krigwin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1130 Posts
December 14 2010 18:32 GMT
#179
On December 15 2010 03:22 riverkim09 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 03:08 awu25 wrote:
On December 15 2010 02:54 Senx wrote:
What the fuck? They put the two foreigners in the same grp? .. wow .. this is stupid.

wtf? the put 4 koreans in the same group?
why the hell should they go out of their way to split up the foreigners in a random draw


Lol agreed. Its just that fanboys here don't want to see foreigners possibly knocking each other hahaha. Remember, GomTV cares about foreigners in the GSL but they still want the Code S dominated by Koreans.

Because it would be smarter and attract more viewers to split up all the big-names. There's no favoritism or match-fixing there, these guys are all Code S so they should be prepared to fight each other.

For example, let's say there are only four players: LegalMind, JooktoJung, Jinro, and Idra. What sounds like a better scenario: LegalMind vs JooktoJung and Jinro vs Idra, or LegalMind vs Idra and JooktoJung vs Jinro? More people want to watch Jinro and Idra, so in the first scenario where one game has neither of them and instead has some relatively unpopular players, you're going to end up with less views overall. In scenario two on the other hand, all 3 games involve a foreigner so you're going to have more views.

It's just smart operation of a tournament. People want to watch big names more and they prefer inter-race matches rather than mirror matches. People want to watch team rivalries more than they want to watch teamkills. So it makes perfect sense to split up the big names, races, and teams.

Imagine if there was some BW tournament where Flash had to face off against Jaedong in the first round while every other match was between B-team unknowns. That would be completely awful and once one of them were eliminated views for the entire tournament would be cut almost in half.
MahatmaSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
United States192 Posts
December 14 2010 18:34 GMT
#180
Jinro vs IdrA gogogogogogo
Team ZeNEX fighting!
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