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On December 15 2010 00:50 syllogism wrote: There are several easier groups, depending on which players you'd replace idra/jinro with. Not lucky at all really.
Somebody will soon count up the points each group achieved over GSL 1,2,3. I am pretty sure Jinro/Idra group scores pretty low.
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On December 15 2010 00:51 Somnolence wrote: I take the groups will be remade after each season? Yes and most likely it will be done in the same matter (maybe next year we're going to see it broadcasted).
On December 15 2010 00:56 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2010 00:50 syllogism wrote: There are several easier groups, depending on which players you'd replace idra/jinro with. Not lucky at all really. Somebody will soon count up the points each group achieved over GSL 1,2,3. I am pretty sure Jinro/Idra group scores pretty low. Already been done by GOM and the community hence they were able to do the drawings in a seeded order. Jinro was in the 9-16 and Idra was in the 17-32 range drawing order.
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Jinro and IdrA being in the same group is pretty crappy.
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On December 15 2010 00:56 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2010 00:50 syllogism wrote: There are several easier groups, depending on which players you'd replace idra/jinro with. Not lucky at all really. Somebody will soon count up the points each group achieved over GSL 1,2,3. I am pretty sure Jinro/Idra group scores pretty low. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GSL_Rankings
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Man oGs representing! Really looking forward to Jinro vs Idra
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NESTEA and NaDa are going to have to just practice 1 race o.O! Kinda sucks for oGs, so much team killing going on. *Sad face* Jinro and IdrA in the same group.
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These are pretty awful groups. So many teamkills, mirrors, and stacking the foreigners?
If there ever was a good time for bracket rigging, this would be it. All of these guys made Code S so there isn't really an argument for favoritism, but no one wants to see teamkill mirror matches all day in the Ro64.
Also, awful, awful luck for jooktojung and sanzenith.
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Group A: 3 Terran, 2 from WE Group B: 3 Zerg, 2 OGS Group C: 2 OGS Group D: 2 TSL Group E: BALANCED GROUP! Group F: 3 Toss, 3 OGS Group G: 3 Terran Group H: Only 2 foreigners
So there is exactly 1 group that doesn't have teammates or a heavy race slant. I am VERY unhappy with the groups. They could have managed to get almost 1 Toss per group, and the teams barely needed to have to team kill, cept OGS.
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Actually come to think of it, if I was SanZenith I would probably just forfeit the tournament with that kind of group.
The guy who cannon blocked himself against Inca, a PvP specialist, MC, a Protoss messiah, and Nada, the legend?
At least jooktojung can try his luck at crazy cheesing/all-in against fruitdealer or zenio and hope it works because of the volatility of ZvZ, sanzenith is just screwed.
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There is a retarded amount of oGs players in the same groups. .
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I suppose you have a point about the race slant, but there's absolutely no reason to tweak the groups just to avoid team killing. None. Also, even the groups with heavy race slant won't be that boring considering we'll still, for instance, get 3x ZvT along with 3x TvT out of the group. Furthermore, even with racially balanced groups we might just get those slanted groups later on in the tournament.
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If this wasnt random I would say they hate the ogs house ...
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I can't believe you guys are still complaining.
You were complaining when GSL 3 had some team kills, you complained that GOM's seeding and spreading players by the races is not random enough. Now it's totally random, the players did the draws themselves, and you still complain again.
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Actually it's pretty good for oGs in the case of group F. All they have to do is practice vs Choya...
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On December 15 2010 01:34 PartyBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2010 00:56 Koshi wrote:On December 15 2010 00:50 syllogism wrote: There are several easier groups, depending on which players you'd replace idra/jinro with. Not lucky at all really. Somebody will soon count up the points each group achieved over GSL 1,2,3. I am pretty sure Jinro/Idra group scores pretty low. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GSL_Rankings
Thanks for that link. I just copied it straight into Excel, added the group for each player, then sorted and summed. Idra/Junro are indeed in the "easiest" group if we use the GSL Code S points as the determination of skill.
![[image loading]](http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/TimmyFredd/GroupPoints.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/TimmyFredd/GroupRanks.jpg)
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I lol'd at Group a ^^
I think this will be better then Gsl S3...at least i hope =3
Jinro & Idra Hwaiting!!!
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Well, at least Clide and MK should have an easy time in group G. LiveForever quit like before the end of GSL1, and legalmind is just not good.
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In terms of difficulty, I'd rank
Group B as most difficult and Group G as the weakest
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On December 15 2010 01:48 Sleight wrote:Group A: 3 Terran, 2 from WE Group B: 3 Zerg, 2 OGS Group C: 2 OGS Group D: 2 TSL Group E: BALANCED GROUP! Group F: 3 Toss, 3 OGS Group G: 3 Terran Group H: Only 2 foreigners So there is exactly 1 group that doesn't have teammates or a heavy race slant. I am VERY unhappy with the groups. They could have managed to get almost 1 Toss per group, and the teams barely needed to have to team kill, cept OGS.
Wouldn't it also be kind of like a team kill since its jinro and ensare?
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Part of me actually likes that Idra and Jinro are in the same group. That will be the first big korean tournement in wich we see two foreigners play each other.
After seeing this groups im pretty pumped for the first S-Class tournement because there wont be like 50% nonames in the first round. Seeded tournements are great when you already know who to root for.)
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