EPTGroup A-
TheBestfOuGroup B-
oGsJookToGroup C-
oGsHyperdubGroup D-
choyafOuGroup E-
anyproPrime.WEGroup F-
SanZenithGroup G- LegalMindZenith Unless
NEXLiveForever doesnt playGroup H-
CheckPrime.WEWhat are your picks
GSL4: Code S Groups finalized. - Page 10
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Denizen[9]
United States649 Posts
Group A- TheBestfOuGroup B- oGsJookToGroup C- oGsHyperdubGroup D- choyafOuGroup E- anyproPrime.WEGroup F- SanZenithGroup G- LegalMindZenith Unless NEXLiveForever doesnt playGroup H- CheckPrime.WEWhat are your picks | ||
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riverkim09
United States291 Posts
On December 15 2010 03:39 GobIin wrote: If i had to count out 1 person from each group it would be Group A- TheBestfOuGroup B- oGsJookToGroup C- oGsHyperdubGroup D- choyafOuGroup E- anyproPrime.WEGroup F- SanZenithGroup G- LegalMindZenith Unless NEXLiveForever doesnt playGroup H- CheckPrime.WEWhat are your picks I would say CheckPrime is a better zerg than Idra so your group H is wrong. | ||
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kcaz
Canada387 Posts
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
As it is so many team kills and 2 foreigners in same group  | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
On December 15 2010 03:44 kcaz wrote: 2 quick thoughts, like a few people mentioned on the first page, WTF is up with the groups with 3 of X and 1 of Y? And the group with 3 ogs guys? 2 foreigners in the same group? C'mon there should be some discretion with the groups. And 1 question I had, how did sSKS (read: Tester) get code S? GSL1 he made it to the ro8 against HopeTorture/TSL_Rainbow | ||
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Denizen[9]
United States649 Posts
On December 15 2010 03:41 riverkim09 wrote: I would say CheckPrime is a better zerg than Idra so your group H is wrong. I think IdrA is a better player than check, check's macro doesnt impress me, what would your groups be? | ||
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Sakarabu
United Kingdom132 Posts
They literally picked their groups out of a hat. Please stfu about "GOM didn't set up the groups properly". It is completely random, they do not have any control over the groups, and this is by far the fairest way to do it. Infact I would expect an outcry if the groups were preset by GOM, as that would just scream of match fixing. It doesn't matter what is best for the foreign community, they can't have favouritism towards certain players or the whole system is flawed. | ||
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Krigwin
1130 Posts
On December 15 2010 03:48 Sakarabu wrote: Why do you people seem to have such a fucking hard time with the concept of a RANDOM draw. They literally picked their groups out of a hat. Please stfu about "GOM didn't set up the groups properly". It is completely random, they do not have any control over the groups, and this is by far the fairest way to do it. Infact I would expect an outcry if the groups were preset by GOM, as that would just scream of match fixing. Please explain how it would be match fixing. Also, they "randomly" picked the GSL3 maps too, and that's how we ended up with Steppes of War in every match. Random isn't always fair and it's definitely not a very smart way to run a tournament. | ||
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Mascherano
Argentina1726 Posts
zvz and pvp are such fickle matchups right now. Unless both people do that same build order usually 1 gets rofl stomped (barring huge mistakes from the bo winner of course) Other than that looks like we are going to have some really awesome games, can't wait. | ||
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DoXa
Switzerland1448 Posts
but seriously, this will be very interesting to watch. sad to see the two foreigners in the same group but the groups seem (are?) random so it happenes. also there will be alot of teamkills and mirror matches If i had to chose for the two advancing players: Group A: maka, nestea Group B: MVP, zenio Group C: Thewind, Hongung (Boxer not lucky with the TvT's here) Group D: tester, rain Group E: leenock, genius Group F: MC, inca (Nada has to show us his TvP) Group G: foxer, clide Group H: idra, ensnare (really tough group to choose from who'll end up winning) | ||
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PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
On December 15 2010 03:50 Krigwin wrote: Please explain how it would be match fixing. Also, they "randomly" picked the GSL3 maps too, and that's how we ended up with Steppes of War in every match. Random isn't always fair and it's definitely not a very smart way to run a tournament. Uh..if they preset the groups, that means THEY choose the matches, so they have now fixed the matches. They did a random picking + seeding ranking method, there is really no other way to do a tournament that would constitute 'fair'... http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens3/forum/6819 | ||
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svperstar
Sweden60 Posts
Then again they might not make enough money on their premium service for this to make a difference. On the other hand, why would they have reserved spots for foreigners if they didn't care. Also for S1-3 gomtv admitted they seeded every foreign player into different groups, why not continue doing that? | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
2 weeks later ... WTF groups! Random shit, Jinro Idra rubble rubble foreigners, mirrors ROFLBBQ, who made dis!? | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
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Sakarabu
United Kingdom132 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On December 15 2010 03:50 Krigwin wrote: On December 15 2010 03:48 Sakarabu wrote: Why do you people seem to have such a fucking hard time with the concept of a RANDOM draw. They literally picked their groups out of a hat. Please stfu about "GOM didn't set up the groups properly". It is completely random, they do not have any control over the groups, and this is by far the fairest way to do it. Infact I would expect an outcry if the groups were preset by GOM, as that would just scream of match fixing. Please explain how it would be match fixing. Also, they "randomly" picked the GSL3 maps too, and that's how we ended up with Steppes of War in every match. Random isn't always fair and it's definitely not a very smart way to run a tournament. Because if someone has to pick who fights who there will always be (even a subconcious) level of bias. Even by splitting up the foreigners (or purposely putting them in the same group) you are then saying "Ok we want to give the foreigners an advantage over the Koreans". I hope you can see the flaw in that system and therefore why random seeding is the best option (indeed, the only option). Randomly drawing maps is also a completely different situation to what we have here, even bringing that up shows your complete lack of logic and understanding of the draw. Also something people seem to be completely overlooking is the fact that 2 people from each group go through. So this actually gives both Jinro and Idra a BETTER (or at the very least equal to being in different groups) chance of making it through to the next round. | ||
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Raigeki
Hong Kong207 Posts
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noD
2230 Posts
a) maka and nestea b) fd and mvp c) boxer and dunno d) cant be predicted e) rainbow and genius f) mc and inca g) foxer and clide h) jinro and ensare or check | ||
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TURKISHRAMBO
Canada148 Posts
May the best man win. This will be one SICK tourny. Im guessing this will be streamed on GOMtv? | ||
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noD
2230 Posts
On December 15 2010 04:05 TURKISHRAMBO wrote: All groups aside. May the best man win. This will be one SICK tourny. Im guessing this will be streamed on GOMtv? this is for gsl4 so yes it will next year =X | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
Assuming winners are assigned 5 points you have nestea, and FD finalists are assigned 4 points: MC, Rain, Rainbow, MarineKingPrime semis are 3: NexLive Ensnare SlayerSBoxeR HongUn Jinro quarters are 2: Choya Kyrix Genius Nada Zenio Maka Inca sSKS and the rest are assigned one point. if you actually tally up each of the groups, you end up with A: 9 B: 9 C: 8 D: 10 (hell group all are quarter finalists or better) E: 8 (but hopetorture is 3rd ranked player by points, so they may assign him extra point of difficulty) F: 9 G: 9 H: 8 So overall, they tried to space out the ranking and result winners across the groups as best they could. Lets face it, while IdrA is one of our foreign heroes, he hasn't shown the results as well as some of the other korean players, and as such was one of the "fill in the hole" guys in the group regardless of his actual skill level or not. As for race balancing, it's never the case for them to try to race balance, they never have when making the brackets, it's based solely on the rankings/results, that way you don't somehow end up putting 2 finalists into the same group because of race balancing. Overall the groups seem pretty even in difficulty if you go by the rankings, except for group D, where you have 3 quarterfinalists and 1 finalist in there (there were no fillers in that group). My predictions are just gonna go by stats because that's the way I gamble: A) Nestea - Maka B) FD and Zenio (maybe mvp, depending on if he improves further or not) C) Boxer and HongUn D) Rain and Tester E) Rainbow and Genius F) MC and Nada G) Foxer and Nexlive (if he plays) otherwise Clide H: Ensnare and Jinro | ||
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