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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On December 14 2010 22:25 On_Slaught wrote: Also, I like how "randomly" Boxer ends up with a complete joke of a group. Oh boy here we go again. Tell me, why isn't he in a 4 Terran group then, hmmm? | ||
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Teton
France1656 Posts
On December 14 2010 22:25 On_Slaught wrote: What horrible groups. Such an absurd amount of mirrors as well as team kills (and the single foreigner kill). I can understand wanting to be random but couldn't you put some parameters into the group settings to make them not a joke? Also, I like how "randomly" Boxer ends up with a complete joke of a group. Disagree. | ||
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s1eger
United States126 Posts
Group A: Nestea, Maka Group B: FruitDealer, MVP Group C: HongUn, BoxeR Group D: Kyrix, sSKS Group E: Leenock, Rainbow Group F: MC, NaDa Group G: MarineKing, Clide (weird and really easy group) Group H: Idra, Jinro | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51702 Posts
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PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
Also, the same goes for Check, who I guess was kind of a hero in Season 1 to be the 2nd farthest advancing Zerg...but his list of wins is even less impressive taking out Sans and some WeRRas essentially. I think Jinro has the best shot in that group, and it's a toss up on the other 3 players - probably Ensnare if you can prove to still be good again, but if not, I'd bet IdrA. All the other groups are pretty tough...Nestea has the easiest opponents by far though, and it's kind of funny MK is in a group WITHOUT zergs...so he might have a problem there. | ||
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Widar
Sweden261 Posts
B: FruitDealer, MVP C: HongUn, BoxeR D: Kyrix, Tester E: Genius, Leenock F: MC, NaDa G: MarineKing, Clyde H: Jinro, Check | ||
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
On December 14 2010 22:30 BLinD-RawR wrote: is there anything there about the map pool? Probably "randomly" chosen. A.K.A. Steppes -> Delta -> Jungle Basin | ||
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zerious
Canada3803 Posts
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bRuTaL!!
Finland588 Posts
On December 14 2010 21:00 Zaka wrote: >Sorting based on teams, nationality, race? Uh, yes? It's called a drawing. Three pots with each a race. Every group will at least get one T, Z and P. And what will you say to those that think it should be based on nationality instead? Or teams? What about seeds? On December 14 2010 21:47 Dagobert wrote: Actually this is a misconception. It isn't neutral, nor is it random. The order in which people draw the tickets is already a confounding factor. The df (degrees of freedom) decrease with every person who draws. It's not random, this is just a matter of conditional probabilities (i.e. which group you draw is not independent of the previous draws). If I knew more about the procedure they used I could say more, but from what I could gather, this is the conclusion. Also, if the 'most equal' distribution is what you're aiming for, then using this sort of "randomization" is not a good choice because sample distributions for variables only start to even out at n>30 (25 if you're feeling lucky) per group. So if you want an even distribution of skill/race within each of the 8 cells, that's at least N=240 (200) players in total. We're at 32. I dont know if I understand you correctly, but if I do, your wrong  . Presuming that the drawing itself is random, then the results are random as well. You should be thinking of the drawings as a whole. Say you have 32 names in a hat, you draw them and you get them out in certain order. You put them back and shake the hat and draw again. Will the result of the first draw effect the next one? No. Theres 2,63*10^35 different orders to draw 32 names out a hat. All have the same chance. Its the same thing in lottery. Just because you can make some guesses what the 7 numbers are going to be after you see the first six, doesnt really help you to guess what the numbers are going to be before any are drawn. | ||
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Horse...falcon
United States1851 Posts
edit: went back to the rankings again, yeah it looks like they seeded the top 16 Top 8 Group B - 1. TSL_FruitDealer - 8850 points Group A - 2. IMNesTea - 8799 points Group E - 3. ST_RainBOw - 6799 points Group G - 4. MarineKingPrime.WE - 5500 points Group F - 5. oGsMC - 4649 points* Group D - 6. TSL_Rain - 4350 points* Group C - 7. HongUnPrime.WE - 4299 points Group H - 8. oGsEnsnare - 3199 points Top 9-16 Group C - 9. SlayerSBoxeR - 2850 points Group A - 10. MakaPrime.WE - 2549 points Group H - 11. Liquid`Jinro - 2500 points Group G - 11. NEXLiveForever - 2500 points Group F - 13. oGsInCa - 2199 points Group E - 14. NsP_Genius - 2149 points Group B - 14. oGsZenio - 2149 points Group D - 16. KyrixZenith - 1799 points Group D - 16. ChoyafOu - 1799 points | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
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Moragon
United States355 Posts
On December 14 2010 22:40 Horse...falcon wrote: It's not completely random is it? Nestea, Fruitdealer, Rainbow, Marineking, MC, and Rain are all in different groups. It looks like they were careful to separate the top seeds into different groups. The 8 players with the most points were seeded into separate groups, correct. | ||
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Gaius Baltar
United States449 Posts
I wonder if they can set it up in such a way that if two players from the same group progress and don't lose until they meet each other again, they would meet in the final. | ||
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weiliem
2073 Posts
 really hope he make it out of that oGs group. =.= .. hoping for him to beat MC. xD then he can tell the whole world that he can beat the best PvT in the world.... xD, 1 can dream | ||
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zak
Korea (South)1009 Posts
On December 14 2010 21:58 esperanto wrote: I am interessted which one is which one? I dont like to see so many players of one team in one group (like oGs in group F, B or C), things like this end up in situations where you either eliminate your teammate or trade points so you both can advance. They should have had a system for their picking where teammates cant end up in the same group. hehe Tester is Brazil - The tried and tested player. Kyrix is Argentina - Messi like ATTACK! Choya is Germany - Superb FF DEFENSE and Rain is France - Anything for a win. Cheesing and head-butting, all is fair! | ||
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
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Boundless
Canada588 Posts
Also, SO many mirror matchups and team kills. Why are there two groups with three Terrans and one group with three Zergs? Why is there one group with three oGs members in it? Gah, I hope someone at GomTV comes to their senses before the next league starts. | ||
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Durp
Canada3117 Posts
Not to mention- + Show Spoiler + TSL_Rain cheeses his way to the finals of Season 3, so he gets choya, the most aggro zerg in the GSL, and the anti-cheese himself Tester. Owned. | ||
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Durp
Canada3117 Posts
On December 14 2010 22:55 zak wrote: hehe Tester is Brazil - The tried and tested player. Kyrix is Argentina - Messi like ATTACK! Choya is Germany - Superb FF DEFENSE and Rain is France - Anything for a win. Cheesing and head-butting, all is fair! I would think Kyrix is more like the German blitzkrieg offense, and Choya's FF defense is more like Spain. The joke, overall, was funny though. =p | ||
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KillAudio
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