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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Pleiades
United States472 Posts
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CraftKings
Malaysia5 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On November 05 2010 15:15 _Quasar_ wrote: To continue what i said before - in our country, Starcraft costed about 18$ in recounting to usd from rubles. And it's with Brood War, not only original. Starcraft sequel is gonna cost about 120$-150$ if you take ALL three "parts" of it, that are gonna be released. I think it's a pretty unfair price. And with all that shit surrounding it and company being such the [bad people], there's less and less will to even think about buying it. Especially concerning the fact that SC1 is a better game, or, if SC2 better in anything, that's very small and u starcraft is an ancient game. All old games are cheaper than when they are new. I can get SC and BW for $15 online on the official blizzard store right now. If you wait 10-15 years (or even 5 years after the final expansion is out) you can expect the price to be similarly cheap. | ||
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Pleiades
United States472 Posts
On November 05 2010 15:15 _Quasar_ wrote: To continue what i said before - in our country, Starcraft costed about 18$ in recounting to usd from rubles. And it's with Brood War, not only original. Starcraft sequel is gonna cost about 120$-150$ if you take ALL three "parts" of it, that are gonna be released. I think it's a pretty unfair price. And with all that shit surrounding it and company being such the [bad people], there's less and less will to even think about buying it. Especially concerning the fact that SC1 is a better game, or, if SC2 better in anything, that's very small and unimportant, and WHY THE HELL GET NEW GAME, IF IT ONLY HAS THE SAME AS IN PREVIOUS AND HAS NOTHING REALLY NEW? and obviously made ONLY to draw money. While Starcraft obviously wasn't and had a "god's spark". My father paid $50-$60 USD for my first copy of SC for Christmas back in 1998, and $30-$40 for SC:BW for my Birthday in 1999. I cherish SC and BW because they were gifts from my father and they were the best games I have played back then. SC2 WoL will probably drop in price in a few years. People are willing to spend money to play games that they think it's cool or like. I spent $200 on two collector's edition of WoL. I will say that comparing SC2 to the original, I like the original better, but SC2 by itself it is a very good game. | ||
mustaju
Estonia4504 Posts
Wouldn't that be similarly offensive to the SC2 folk here arguing that this is the natural order of things? | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
I don't want to keep up with that tendency to release games only to draw money from fans, making tons of attractive glitter and nothing truly new, copying the good stuff from the older things. If that's your way, well ok, but it isnt mine. sorry. | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On November 05 2010 15:33 mustaju wrote: Just wondering. Would anyone here be OK with CJ pulling GSL off air? Because they have a lot of influence over GOM and it's their company and their right, after all. Wouldn't that be similarly offensive to the SC2 folk here arguing that this is the natural order of things? I would be confused because there would be no real reason to pull it off the air. | ||
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mustaju
Estonia4504 Posts
On November 05 2010 15:38 TheRabidDeer wrote: I would be confused because there would be no real reason to pull it off the air. Of course it would have a "reason". They are investing a lot of money and there is no surefire way of making sure they get enough back (unless the VOD business is really profitable). Sure it's "advertising", but both parties can pull childish antics - you screw us over, we screw you over. And taking it off air for just a month for "re-evaluation purposes" or something similar like that would definitely be screwing you over. | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On November 05 2010 15:37 _Quasar_ wrote: I'm not willing to sponsor some company that performs shit and not human-like actions. For example suing (or at least bothering) those who gave them their popularity, or releasing after 12 years a game without anything REALLY new. They are not suing the people that gave them their popularity. Believe it or not, in the grand scheme of things, BW is not that popular outside of korea. WoW, Halo, CoD and many other games are more popular outside korea. WoW makes them more money than anything imaginable. I don't want to keep up with that tendency to release games only to draw money from fans, making tons of attractive glitter and nothing truly new, copying the good stuff from the older things. If that's your way, well ok, but it isnt mine. sorry. People, yes people like you, demanded that blizzard make a sequel for SC. For YEARS people demanded it. They complained when war3 was made instead of SC2. They complained when WoW was made instead of SC2. Now, they make a great game, SC2 and you complain (and you are in the minority here) that they made it. You are just an angry person from what I can see, and with no logical reason to be angry. | ||
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Bijan
United States286 Posts
BW should continue as long as there are pro gamers willing to play and fans willing to watch. It should be as simple as that, but of course there is money involved. From my perspective, limited as that may be, both sides have done things that kind of makes them look like dicks. I just want mommy and daddy to stop arguing so we can all eat dinner. | ||
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zimz
United States510 Posts
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Pleiades
United States472 Posts
On November 05 2010 15:40 mustaju wrote: + Show Spoiler + On November 05 2010 15:38 TheRabidDeer wrote: I would be confused because there would be no real reason to pull it off the air. Of course it would have a "reason". They are investing a lot of money and there is no surefire way of making sure they get enough back (unless the VOD business is really profitable). Sure it's "advertising", but both parties can pull childish antics - you screw us over, we screw you over. And taking it off air for just a month for "re-evaluation purposes" or something similar like that would definitely be screwing you over. It depends if CJ has Gretech's direct interest in doing so by the amount of shares they have. I don't know if CJ has enough stake in Gretech to change their direction on things, but even so, if the GSL is pulled, it wouldn't affect a lot of foreigners as it would Koreans compared to BW. | ||
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CraftKings
Malaysia5 Posts
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mustaju
Estonia4504 Posts
On November 05 2010 15:47 Pleiades wrote: It depends if CJ has Gretech's direct interest in doing so by the amount of shares they have. I don't know if CJ has enough stake in Gretech to change their direction on things, but even so, if the GSL is pulled, it wouldn't affect a lot of foreigners as it would Koreans compared to BW. That's arguably also the case for BW. And then again, you are right on the whole "we don't know about CJ influence in GOM" if we trust Waxangel as a reliable source (and I do.) What I am actually arguing is that what Blizzard is doing should not be considered morally perfectly acceptable because it's good for their business. Good for business can still screw us over. | ||
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Pleiades
United States472 Posts
On November 05 2010 15:44 zimz wrote: north korea should run osl and msl, i would like to see blizzard try to sue kim jong il. kim jong il can just respond by nuking the pacific ocean. It depends on how many south korean progamers would risk going to north korea to participate. | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
I think maximum sportive part is in the fact that SC is old and simple game, and all that matters - is the mastership of players. That is true sports. You're not right - SC is enormously popular in Russia. Anyone plays it. I went to new job and found out that more than 50% of my new colleagues play it (STILL freaking play. When there is 12 years after!) and with no logical reason to be angry. it's a little bit trollish, dude. It seems you haven't read all that I write. I have a reason - the people who gave SC popularity - a hard to learn, strategic game - were korean gaming community. They raised it to the SPORTS status. And adrenaline and willing to compete is the only possible reason that i see to make this game SUCH popular. Otherwise it wouldn't go further than warcraft 2. Yes good, yes entertaining, but not too popular, and NOT living the freaking 12 years when people kept still occasionally spending money on it. And 11 WCG's with it! That's very huge. Only Counter-Strike could beat that. And wait... why I don't hear any shit of that from Valve who "own" Half-Life? Maybe because it is POSSIBLE to be a normal company and normal people who make human-like actions? So, I know that they owe their popularity to koreans. And they SHOULD NOT be taking such actions. ________ About SC2 - i would buy it, if thing were not that way, at least for the single campaign. And multiplayer - I am very doubting that without ALL THIS ACTIONS it would reach even a 25% of SC original's e-sportive degree. (and i doubt that even with them - it reaches even 50% of it.) And would be a little time after forgotten and descending to the status of WC3 - good but not too popular. And all who liked original SC would still play it, because there's where the true Fighting Spirit lies.  | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On November 05 2010 15:51 mustaju wrote: That's arguably also the case for BW. And then again, you are right on the whole "we don't know about CJ influence in GOM" if we trust Waxangel as a reliable source (and I do.) What I am actually arguing is that what Blizzard is doing should not be considered morally perfectly acceptable because it's good for their business. Good for business can still screw us over. Maybe what is actually happening here is that CJ no longer feels that BW can be profitable and thus wants to stop investing so much into it. So they use gretech/blizzard to shut it down and they save face. | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
On November 05 2010 15:52 Pleiades wrote: It depends on how many south korean progamers would risk going to north korea to participate. AHHHAHAHAHA, Nuclear launch detected!!! :D [ActiviSiOn]BliZzArd: gg Kim.Jong.iL: gg [ActiviSiOn]BliZzArd has left the game. | ||
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