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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
October 24 2010 18:27 GMT
#321
On October 25 2010 03:12 Treva wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2010 02:33 Phaint wrote:
I'm more than sure IdrA seriously meant that WeRRa just all ins most games. Stop giving him so much credit for making that pun.

He even stated such about WeRRa while he was commentating the GSL games.

It is a terrible situation and I totally understand the hypersensitivity. I'm not an IdrA fanboy, just cut the guy a break.


While I agree there is a place for cute puns it is not in a thread about a team captain trying to molest a young kid. Take the IdrA love to his fan page thread, he deserves no slack just because he is a consistent ass, the ban was justified.

This thread is mainly about WeRRa disbanding, not about the sexual assault incident. Keeping in mind that this site is for discussion of SC progaming and not discussion of sexual misconduct, and given that IdrA's experience with WeRRa is from playing them in SC2 games, it's perfectly appropriate for him to comment on their play and what their disbandment will mean to him. If people want to talk about some off topic bullshit like the drama behind the disbandment, blogs would be a good place to start imo.
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Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
October 24 2010 18:32 GMT
#322
Liquid`Tyler... did you really just suggest that discussing the direct cause of WeRRa's disintegration is inappropriate in a thread about WeRRa's disbandment?

Really?

College may've taught you to compartmentalize a little too well.
Jaruri
Profile Joined March 2010
United States9 Posts
October 24 2010 18:33 GMT
#323
On October 24 2010 20:34 IdrA wrote:
damn
them all wearing the werra tag was a good way to know when you were gonna get allin'd

User was temp banned for this post.


I lol'd

anyways, its pretty sad that just because of one persons bad judgment, the entire clan disbands
To fear death, is to limit life.
CheeseGrater
Profile Joined August 2010
United States290 Posts
October 24 2010 18:38 GMT
#324
On October 25 2010 03:32 Tadzio wrote:
Liquid`Tyler... did you really just suggest that discussing the direct cause of WeRRa's disintegration is inappropriate in a thread about WeRRa's disbandment?

Really?

College may've taught you to compartmentalize a little too well.


I think he's saying that Idra talking about the direct result of Werra's disbandment to him in terms of pro-gaming was completely appropriate in this thread.
chumppi
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland29 Posts
October 24 2010 18:39 GMT
#325
Liquid`Tyler Really? I thought the thread title was "WeRRa disbands due to --->sexual misconduct allegations<----"
Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
October 24 2010 18:42 GMT
#326
On October 25 2010 03:38 CheeseGrater wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2010 03:32 Tadzio wrote:
Liquid`Tyler... did you really just suggest that discussing the direct cause of WeRRa's disintegration is inappropriate in a thread about WeRRa's disbandment?

Really?

College may've taught you to compartmentalize a little too well.


I think he's saying that Idra talking about the direct result of Werra's disbandment to him in terms of pro-gaming was completely appropriate in this thread.


Yea, a few minutes after I posted it I finally got the feeling he was being sarcastic. But I wanted to be corrected so I could say "Well, ain't my cheeks red! :3"
shadow1877
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1 Post
Last Edited: 2010-10-24 18:44:18
October 24 2010 18:42 GMT
#327
poor cellaweRRa loved watching his stream, but overall it sucks for everyone who is affected by this if it is true i feel bad for weRRa
fireb0rn
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada15 Posts
October 24 2010 18:44 GMT
#328
On October 24 2010 22:27 oRacLeGosu wrote:
He is underage first of all, as opposed to the team leader. Second; he is relying on this person to guide him to reach his goals, and therefore has immence psychological power.


"immence psychological power" huh. Is that like the force or something?
Fulmine
Profile Joined October 2010
United States50 Posts
October 24 2010 18:49 GMT
#329
It's extremely sad to see such a good team disband because of the negative stigma brought on by one person's actions. The best of luck to all the now ex-werra players, hope to see you guys find or make a new team.
Roezz
Profile Joined September 2010
United States16 Posts
October 24 2010 18:50 GMT
#330
Not much about this thread is removed from the assault incident. Everything about what will happen to the Werra clan, whether they reform, and how, involves the nature of what is going on and where that leads.

I love listening to Cella and the whole Holy Check thing. I wish the former Werra members all the best and I hope their fans give them as much support as possible.

Keep on movin on Cella~

EntropyFails
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
81 Posts
October 24 2010 18:59 GMT
#331
Cognitive dissonance is a strange beast. Just because you like IdrA doesn't mean that he cannot make poor decisions.

1) Idra was obviously making a double entendre. If he said it to me in person, I would have laughed as it is dark humor and I enjoy dark humor. But on a public form, I'd expect to get banned.

2) Sticking your hand down a sleeping 15 year olds pants is sexual assault and is a crime in every developed country in the world.

3) The poor kid should have reported this to the authorities instead of making a post of a forum. However he's a 15 year old drop-out and Korea is known for the police treating sexual assault in a less than serious manner. There are several news articles about this if you care to look them up. Now that he has taken action in this manner the chances of this getting a legal evaluation and judgement are much smaller.

4) LiquidTyler should read the post title again. I'm going to repeat it here. "WeRRa disbands due to sexual misconduct allegations." It is germane to discuss both the disbanding and the reasons for it. You know full well that IdrA was making a joke (and honestly it was funny, just not appropriate) so there is no reason for you to be fatuous.

This whole situation is just sad. If true, the Werra Captain's actions were horrible. The downplaying of this assault by members here is sad. IdrA's comment was funny but inappropriate.

But all we have to go on here is allegations, unfortunately. Apparently that is enough to disband the team but I personally would have wanted to see the light of justice focused on this situation. We may never see justice in this case now (for or against depending on the actual facts).

The only question left in my mind is how is it possible for a 15 year old to drop out of school in South Korea to play a video game full time? That wouldn't be legal in the US (they would have to finish schooling via home study). Is this the same as in Korea or can you really just give up your education to play a video game?
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-24 19:05:23
October 24 2010 19:04 GMT
#332
^ Well, to provide an American analogy (not so applicable now, but it has happened), what about players who signed up for the NBA and completely sacrificed their college education? eSports is a staple of the Korean community, so it really doesn't strike me as odd that someone would give up their education to try to become a superstar.
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EntropyFails
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
81 Posts
October 24 2010 19:09 GMT
#333
Sacrificing secondary (college) education as an 18 year old adult is completely different from sacrificing primary education as an 15 year old child. Even if the NBA accepted people less than 18 years old (they don't), they would still be legally required to complete their primary education.
MrLonely
Profile Joined October 2010
60 Posts
October 24 2010 19:16 GMT
#334
On October 25 2010 03:27 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2010 03:12 Treva wrote:
On October 25 2010 02:33 Phaint wrote:
I'm more than sure IdrA seriously meant that WeRRa just all ins most games. Stop giving him so much credit for making that pun.

He even stated such about WeRRa while he was commentating the GSL games.

It is a terrible situation and I totally understand the hypersensitivity. I'm not an IdrA fanboy, just cut the guy a break.


While I agree there is a place for cute puns it is not in a thread about a team captain trying to molest a young kid. Take the IdrA love to his fan page thread, he deserves no slack just because he is a consistent ass, the ban was justified.

This thread is mainly about WeRRa disbanding, not about the sexual assault incident. Keeping in mind that this site is for discussion of SC progaming and not discussion of sexual misconduct, and given that IdrA's experience with WeRRa is from playing them in SC2 games, it's perfectly appropriate for him to comment on their play and what their disbandment will mean to him. If people want to talk about some off topic bullshit like the drama behind the disbandment, blogs would be a good place to start imo.


Then why was he banned?

Or are you kidding? I haven't a clue. You've been quite a douche in threads lately.
Somi
Profile Joined August 2010
Pakistan123 Posts
October 24 2010 19:16 GMT
#335
The joke will be on Idra when he looses some All-in.
For the Swarm!
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
October 24 2010 19:25 GMT
#336
On October 25 2010 04:16 MrLonely wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2010 03:27 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On October 25 2010 03:12 Treva wrote:
On October 25 2010 02:33 Phaint wrote:
I'm more than sure IdrA seriously meant that WeRRa just all ins most games. Stop giving him so much credit for making that pun.

He even stated such about WeRRa while he was commentating the GSL games.

It is a terrible situation and I totally understand the hypersensitivity. I'm not an IdrA fanboy, just cut the guy a break.


While I agree there is a place for cute puns it is not in a thread about a team captain trying to molest a young kid. Take the IdrA love to his fan page thread, he deserves no slack just because he is a consistent ass, the ban was justified.

This thread is mainly about WeRRa disbanding, not about the sexual assault incident. Keeping in mind that this site is for discussion of SC progaming and not discussion of sexual misconduct, and given that IdrA's experience with WeRRa is from playing them in SC2 games, it's perfectly appropriate for him to comment on their play and what their disbandment will mean to him. If people want to talk about some off topic bullshit like the drama behind the disbandment, blogs would be a good place to start imo.


Then why was he banned?

Or are you kidding? I haven't a clue. You've been quite a douche in threads lately.

Tyler was right. What IdrA said did not deserve a bad unless you assume what he said was a joke, which mods just assume is because it's IdrA. Not like he cares about temp bans, he posts 2 times a week sadly.

As for the attempted molestation, it's not really a surprise. It happens in sports all the time. Starcraft just has a very small player base compared to something like football.
Qwix
Profile Joined October 2010
531 Posts
October 24 2010 19:27 GMT
#337
On October 25 2010 00:41 teer wrote:
idra is just jealous that no one wants to unzip his fly

win
KingRajesh
Profile Joined July 2010
United States927 Posts
October 24 2010 19:43 GMT
#338
On October 24 2010 20:34 IdrA wrote:
damn
them all wearing the werra tag was a good way to know when you were gonna get allin'd

User was temp banned for this post.


Why did Idra get temp banned for this?

He was just taking about werra's SC2 play all in play, not talking about the unfortunately circumstances for them.
"Zerg are the absolute worst thing that can happen to your day" - Dustin Browder
Sergeras
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria185 Posts
October 24 2010 19:57 GMT
#339
On October 25 2010 04:27 Qwix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2010 00:41 teer wrote:
idra is just jealous that no one wants to unzip his fly

win

double win
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
October 24 2010 20:11 GMT
#340
Unfortunately I think IdrA really only meant literally what he said. He obviously liked playing WeRRa players because he could be confident in the strategies that would be used against him. Unfortunately, a lot of people interpreted "all-in'ed" as a sexual reference, and as such he was temp banned. It might have been a tasteless comment, but at the same time as long as it's only a 2 day ban or so I think IdrA will get the message while not getting brutally punished.
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