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United States22883 Posts
On May 03 2009 11:59 SmoKing2012 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2009 11:58 Jibba wrote:On May 03 2009 11:56 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 11:54 Jibba wrote:On May 03 2009 11:50 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 11:47 Jibba wrote:
Why did they go away from Heinrich when he got hot?
Him and Gordon should be trading PG duties at this point, not Rose.. As a Boston fan I'm much happier to have Heinrich in there than Rose, Heinrich can't create for himself edit: they have 3 guards in now.. Heinrich is hitting his shots, and he makes far better decisions with the ball than Gordon and Rose. he's a solid shooter no doubt but hes kinda streaky i woudla expected him to choke if he got more shots off Yeah, this makes zero sense. it makes sense because heinrich isn't the guy you want in when the game's on the line if its him or rose... altho it doesn't matter because they have both in but whatever. and rose is a much better facilitator
We're talking about the last 5 minutes of the game, not the final possession (which would go to Gordon anyways). Rose can score, but when he goes iso he turns it over half the time. Heinrich can play the point without driving into dead end and makes smart passes, which would help Rose score more.
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On May 03 2009 12:03 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2009 11:59 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 11:58 Jibba wrote:On May 03 2009 11:56 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 11:54 Jibba wrote:On May 03 2009 11:50 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 11:47 Jibba wrote:
Why did they go away from Heinrich when he got hot?
Him and Gordon should be trading PG duties at this point, not Rose.. As a Boston fan I'm much happier to have Heinrich in there than Rose, Heinrich can't create for himself edit: they have 3 guards in now.. Heinrich is hitting his shots, and he makes far better decisions with the ball than Gordon and Rose. he's a solid shooter no doubt but hes kinda streaky i woudla expected him to choke if he got more shots off Yeah, this makes zero sense. it makes sense because heinrich isn't the guy you want in when the game's on the line if its him or rose... altho it doesn't matter because they have both in but whatever. and rose is a much better facilitator We're talking about the last 5 minutes of the game, not the final possession (which would go to Gordon anyways). Rose can score, but when he goes iso he turns it over half the time. Heinrich can play the point without driving into dead end and makes smart passes, which would help Rose score more.
Rose is a much better driver I think he'd create better looks for Gordon or Salmons. he's had some turnovers over the last 2 games but obv he was brilliant game 1, i think he would be playin great again w the game on the line. kirk is so-so in iso, hes better coming off screens but thats not really your role as the PG
Eddie House for player of the game, FINALLY he got his looks in
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This game was actually one of the more boring series which is pretty sad considering todays game had no OT. But Rondo made a stupid turnover in bounding and if Gordon hit that three, we mighta gone to another OT.
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On May 03 2009 12:07 il0seonpurpose wrote:
This game was actually one of the more boring series which is pretty sad considering todays game had no OT. But Rondo made a stupid turnover in bounding and if Gordon hit that three, we mighta gone to another OT.
yeah all the freethrows killed it. I felt the refs were compensating there lack of calls for the last 6 3/4 games in 1 quarter. sucks.
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On May 03 2009 12:07 il0seonpurpose wrote:
This game was actually one of the more boring series which is pretty sad considering todays game had no OT. But Rondo made a stupid turnover in bounding and if Gordon hit that three, we mighta gone to another OT.
i would have gone nuts if gordon hit that three
blah, so close
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United States10774 Posts
either way i will be happy when orlando or cleveland smashes boston ;P
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Pretty anticlimactic end tbh.
Oh well.
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United States22883 Posts
On May 03 2009 12:05 SmoKing2012 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2009 12:03 Jibba wrote:On May 03 2009 11:59 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 11:58 Jibba wrote:On May 03 2009 11:56 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 11:54 Jibba wrote:On May 03 2009 11:50 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 11:47 Jibba wrote:
Why did they go away from Heinrich when he got hot?
Him and Gordon should be trading PG duties at this point, not Rose.. As a Boston fan I'm much happier to have Heinrich in there than Rose, Heinrich can't create for himself edit: they have 3 guards in now.. Heinrich is hitting his shots, and he makes far better decisions with the ball than Gordon and Rose. he's a solid shooter no doubt but hes kinda streaky i woudla expected him to choke if he got more shots off Yeah, this makes zero sense. it makes sense because heinrich isn't the guy you want in when the game's on the line if its him or rose... altho it doesn't matter because they have both in but whatever. and rose is a much better facilitator We're talking about the last 5 minutes of the game, not the final possession (which would go to Gordon anyways). Rose can score, but when he goes iso he turns it over half the time. Heinrich can play the point without driving into dead end and makes smart passes, which would help Rose score more. kirk is so-so in iso, hes better coming off screens but thats not really your role as the PG
Neither is, which is why watching Rose/Gordon do it is so infuriating. They needed someone to run the offense, not a scorer.
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I want KG to trashtalk dwight, then dwight elbows him in the face. And some hard fouls on rondo would be great too.
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the keltics dodged a gordon bullet there, paul pierce new it.
d howard and the magic up next. with the boston frontline so thin already, i expect a bunch of guys to keep fouling out throughout the series. hence a 4-1 win for the magic
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On May 03 2009 12:11 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2009 12:05 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 12:03 Jibba wrote:On May 03 2009 11:59 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 11:58 Jibba wrote:On May 03 2009 11:56 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 11:54 Jibba wrote:On May 03 2009 11:50 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 11:47 Jibba wrote:
Why did they go away from Heinrich when he got hot?
Him and Gordon should be trading PG duties at this point, not Rose.. As a Boston fan I'm much happier to have Heinrich in there than Rose, Heinrich can't create for himself edit: they have 3 guards in now.. Heinrich is hitting his shots, and he makes far better decisions with the ball than Gordon and Rose. he's a solid shooter no doubt but hes kinda streaky i woudla expected him to choke if he got more shots off Yeah, this makes zero sense. it makes sense because heinrich isn't the guy you want in when the game's on the line if its him or rose... altho it doesn't matter because they have both in but whatever. and rose is a much better facilitator We're talking about the last 5 minutes of the game, not the final possession (which would go to Gordon anyways). Rose can score, but when he goes iso he turns it over half the time. Heinrich can play the point without driving into dead end and makes smart passes, which would help Rose score more. kirk is so-so in iso, hes better coming off screens but thats not really your role as the PG Neither is, which is why watching Rose/Gordon do it is so infuriating. They needed someone to run the offense, not a scorer.
i dunno i disagree, if your PG can play iso he's gonna pull another defender and create an open look for either the other guard or one of the forwards. Gordon is a good enough player to do whatever he wants on offense. Rose was hitting his jumpshots, they shoulda gone thru him more this game
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^ I think the problem is that Rose refuses to be aggressive sometimes.
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yea celts will probly go down to orlando, even if they dont' they'll get swept by cleveland but just beating the bulls is enough of a victory for this season given all the injuries
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United States22883 Posts
On May 03 2009 12:14 SmoKing2012 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2009 12:11 Jibba wrote:On May 03 2009 12:05 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 12:03 Jibba wrote:On May 03 2009 11:59 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 11:58 Jibba wrote:On May 03 2009 11:56 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 11:54 Jibba wrote:On May 03 2009 11:50 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 11:47 Jibba wrote:
Why did they go away from Heinrich when he got hot?
Him and Gordon should be trading PG duties at this point, not Rose.. As a Boston fan I'm much happier to have Heinrich in there than Rose, Heinrich can't create for himself edit: they have 3 guards in now.. Heinrich is hitting his shots, and he makes far better decisions with the ball than Gordon and Rose. he's a solid shooter no doubt but hes kinda streaky i woudla expected him to choke if he got more shots off Yeah, this makes zero sense. it makes sense because heinrich isn't the guy you want in when the game's on the line if its him or rose... altho it doesn't matter because they have both in but whatever. and rose is a much better facilitator We're talking about the last 5 minutes of the game, not the final possession (which would go to Gordon anyways). Rose can score, but when he goes iso he turns it over half the time. Heinrich can play the point without driving into dead end and makes smart passes, which would help Rose score more. kirk is so-so in iso, hes better coming off screens but thats not really your role as the PG Neither is, which is why watching Rose/Gordon do it is so infuriating. They needed someone to run the offense, not a scorer. i dunno i disagree, if your PG can play iso he's gonna pull another defender and create an open look for either the other guard or one of the forwards. Gordon is a good enough player to do whatever he wants on offense. Rose was hitting his jumpshots, they shoulda gone thru him more this game
Gordon doing whatever he wants probably lost them the game tonight.
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On May 03 2009 12:16 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2009 12:14 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 12:11 Jibba wrote:On May 03 2009 12:05 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 12:03 Jibba wrote:On May 03 2009 11:59 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 11:58 Jibba wrote:On May 03 2009 11:56 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 11:54 Jibba wrote:On May 03 2009 11:50 SmoKing2012 wrote:
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As a Boston fan I'm much happier to have Heinrich in there than Rose, Heinrich can't create for himself
edit: they have 3 guards in now.. Heinrich is hitting his shots, and he makes far better decisions with the ball than Gordon and Rose. he's a solid shooter no doubt but hes kinda streaky i woudla expected him to choke if he got more shots off Yeah, this makes zero sense. it makes sense because heinrich isn't the guy you want in when the game's on the line if its him or rose... altho it doesn't matter because they have both in but whatever. and rose is a much better facilitator We're talking about the last 5 minutes of the game, not the final possession (which would go to Gordon anyways). Rose can score, but when he goes iso he turns it over half the time. Heinrich can play the point without driving into dead end and makes smart passes, which would help Rose score more. kirk is so-so in iso, hes better coming off screens but thats not really your role as the PG Neither is, which is why watching Rose/Gordon do it is so infuriating. They needed someone to run the offense, not a scorer. i dunno i disagree, if your PG can play iso he's gonna pull another defender and create an open look for either the other guard or one of the forwards. Gordon is a good enough player to do whatever he wants on offense. Rose was hitting his jumpshots, they shoulda gone thru him more this game Gordon doing whatever he wants probably lost them the game tonight.
ehh he coold off after the first quarter but I don't mind giving him the looks if i'm chicago because he's so damn good. chicago lost because they have NO CENTER in noah or miller and because rose pussed out as someone mentioned above. salmons didn't shoot for shit either and no one stepped up. at least heinrich and gordon put some effort in
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United States22883 Posts
On May 03 2009 12:19 SmoKing2012 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2009 12:16 Jibba wrote:On May 03 2009 12:14 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 12:11 Jibba wrote:On May 03 2009 12:05 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 12:03 Jibba wrote:On May 03 2009 11:59 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 11:58 Jibba wrote:On May 03 2009 11:56 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 11:54 Jibba wrote:
[quote]Heinrich is hitting his shots, and he makes far better decisions with the ball than Gordon and Rose. he's a solid shooter no doubt but hes kinda streaky i woudla expected him to choke if he got more shots off Yeah, this makes zero sense. it makes sense because heinrich isn't the guy you want in when the game's on the line if its him or rose... altho it doesn't matter because they have both in but whatever. and rose is a much better facilitator We're talking about the last 5 minutes of the game, not the final possession (which would go to Gordon anyways). Rose can score, but when he goes iso he turns it over half the time. Heinrich can play the point without driving into dead end and makes smart passes, which would help Rose score more. kirk is so-so in iso, hes better coming off screens but thats not really your role as the PG Neither is, which is why watching Rose/Gordon do it is so infuriating. They needed someone to run the offense, not a scorer. i dunno i disagree, if your PG can play iso he's gonna pull another defender and create an open look for either the other guard or one of the forwards. Gordon is a good enough player to do whatever he wants on offense. Rose was hitting his jumpshots, they shoulda gone thru him more this game Gordon doing whatever he wants probably lost them the game tonight. ehh he coold off after the first quarter but I don't mind giving him the looks if i'm chicago because he's so damn good. chicago lost because they have NO CENTER in noah or miller and because rose pussed out as someone mentioned above. salmons didn't shoot for shit either and no one stepped up. at least heinrich and gordon put some effort in
Miller was bad, but Del Negro still needed to get the ball out of Gordon's hands. He takes terrible shots, and unfortunately makes enough of them to encourage him to keep taking them. It's like Lebron and 3s.
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On May 03 2009 12:19 SmoKing2012 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2009 12:16 Jibba wrote:On May 03 2009 12:14 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 12:11 Jibba wrote:On May 03 2009 12:05 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 12:03 Jibba wrote:On May 03 2009 11:59 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 11:58 Jibba wrote:On May 03 2009 11:56 SmoKing2012 wrote:On May 03 2009 11:54 Jibba wrote:
[quote]Heinrich is hitting his shots, and he makes far better decisions with the ball than Gordon and Rose. he's a solid shooter no doubt but hes kinda streaky i woudla expected him to choke if he got more shots off Yeah, this makes zero sense. it makes sense because heinrich isn't the guy you want in when the game's on the line if its him or rose... altho it doesn't matter because they have both in but whatever. and rose is a much better facilitator We're talking about the last 5 minutes of the game, not the final possession (which would go to Gordon anyways). Rose can score, but when he goes iso he turns it over half the time. Heinrich can play the point without driving into dead end and makes smart passes, which would help Rose score more. kirk is so-so in iso, hes better coming off screens but thats not really your role as the PG Neither is, which is why watching Rose/Gordon do it is so infuriating. They needed someone to run the offense, not a scorer. i dunno i disagree, if your PG can play iso he's gonna pull another defender and create an open look for either the other guard or one of the forwards. Gordon is a good enough player to do whatever he wants on offense. Rose was hitting his jumpshots, they shoulda gone thru him more this game Gordon doing whatever he wants probably lost them the game tonight. ehh he coold off after the first quarter but I don't mind giving him the looks if i'm chicago because he's so damn good. chicago lost because they have NO CENTER in noah or miller and because rose pussed out as someone mentioned above. salmons didn't shoot for shit either and no one stepped up. at least heinrich and gordon put some effort in
That's the typical non-chicago fan's view of Ben Gordon. When Ben Gordon is off he absolutely kills the Bulls. Whenever the ball goes thru his hands the offense just stops. Occasionally he'll go off for 1 game like he did in game 2, but he really kills the bulls in games like this where he shoots so poorly, and gets murdered on defense like always.
Ben Gordon isn't so damn good.
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yeah i think gordon's decision making down the stretch was pretty shitty...i remember one possession where they were down by 3 or 5? and he came down the floor and rushed a 3pointer which got blocked by pierece. damn they had so much time on the clock, it was an effing 2-3 possession game...those are the types of shots/decisions that hurt your ball club for sure.
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