EPTAlthough I find it a little bit funny how they seem to think Klazart invited the support "the StarCraft community" - if only they knew how big StarCraft actually is.
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maybenexttime
Poland5752 Posts
Although I find it a little bit funny how they seem to think Klazart invited the support "the StarCraft community" - if only they knew how big StarCraft actually is. | ||
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blue_arrow
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MoRe_mInErAls
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
On March 24 2009 05:13 maybenexttime wrote: Great that they've resolvd the whole ordeal. Although I find it a little bit funny how they seem to think Klazart invited the support "the StarCraft community" - if only they knew how big StarCraft actually is. Yep, makes you want to ask everyone you know to join that site and ruin everything they have ... for a second =p | ||
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
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G0dly
United States450 Posts
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
On March 24 2009 07:43 G0dly wrote: bunch of the authors on the board are leaving. they're pretty pissed. Yeah, for instance here: http://www.authonomy.com/Forum/Posts.aspx?forumId=9&threadId=18910&pageNumber=1 It is so entertaining to read all these posts, the anger, the disappointment and the flames. These writers make it seem as if the whole site, forum and community got completely destroyed beyond repair by Klazart and the new members. Instead of increasing their efforts to improve the site, the rating system and the developed relationships, they are simply giving up... -_-a | ||
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Klaz
Ireland334 Posts
If they've been working on their books (as they say their real reason for sticking around is) then they have gained a lot and can continue to do so. One book over taking them in the rankings isn't going to destroy anything. I think the thing that really kills them, is that they feel that popularity trumps merit. Well, I'd like to think I have merit. Only time will tell. | ||
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Mockingbird
United Kingdom33 Posts
On March 24 2009 02:42 nttea wrote: I don't think authonomy would die because of this, would it? i mean it's just a temporary mess. It will calm down in a few days . Folk are pulling out. The main problem is now one of perception. The attendant publicity and buzz surrounding this has made some people question how seriously their work is going to be taken if they remain associated with Authonomy. Getting published is tough. The story has become not about the writing, but about the fan base, and since Auth was on a slippery slope before, this has pushed it clean over the edge. Before people get too excited, some of us were having concerns about the length of time we were on Auth, and what it was actually achieving by being involved. The system has been exposed, and that isn't actually that bad a thing. It's convinced some of us that our Auth time is over. I intend pulling out in the next fortnight or so. This is not because of Klaz per se, but because now this has happened, it has highlighted the futility of expending a great deal more time on Auth. It's time for a new strategy. | ||
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Mockingbird
United Kingdom33 Posts
On March 24 2009 08:01 Schnake wrote: Yeah, for instance here: http://www.authonomy.com/Forum/Posts.aspx?forumId=9&threadId=18910&pageNumber=1 It is so entertaining to read all these posts, the anger, the disappointment and the flames. These writers make it seem as if the whole site, forum and community got completely destroyed beyond repair by Klazart and the new members. Instead of increasing their efforts to improve the site, the rating system and the developed relationships, they are simply giving up... -_-a THE AUTHORS DO NOT OWN THE SITE. THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE THE SITE... IT BELONGS TO HARPER COLLINS... WHICH BELONGS TO MR RUPERT MURDOCH, PRESS BARON! It is solely the province of the COMPANY what happens to the site. People are pulling out for a number of reasons. Klaz was merely the catalyst for the decision to leave in some cases. Not the actual cause. | ||
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
On March 24 2009 08:14 Mockingbird wrote: THE AUTHORS DO NOT OWN THE SITE. THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE THE SITE... IT BELONGS TO HARPER COLLINS... WHICH BELONGS TO MR RUPERT MURDOCH, PRESS BARON! It is solely the province of the COMPANY what happens to the site. People are pulling out for a number of reasons. Klaz was merely the catalyst for the decision to leave in some cases. Not the actual cause. If there is nothing anyone except HC can do to improve the site, then why complain/care in the first place?  I don't know for how many people Klaz was the final straw but HC obviously needs the feedback of the community to make adjustments and improvements, whether these be by e-mail, forum post or simply leaving the site. | ||
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Descent
1244 Posts
On March 24 2009 08:14 Mockingbird wrote: THE AUTHORS DO NOT OWN THE SITE. THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE THE SITE... IT BELONGS TO HARPER COLLINS... WHICH BELONGS TO MR RUPERT MURDOCH, PRESS BARON! It is solely the province of the COMPANY what happens to the site. People are pulling out for a number of reasons. Klaz was merely the catalyst for the decision to leave in some cases. Not the actual cause. To be perfectly honest, a number of members from Authonomy seem to be pulling out or making decisions based upon bad opinions. For example, a lot of Authonomy members seem to just now be learning of 4chan. Just now learning of Anonymous (and using Wikipedia links while they're at it). Thinking that they're being hacked because the site was undergoing maintenance. This isn't the case, and such rationalizations are wrong. Klazart isn't part of Anonymous, and he isn't even from 4chan. When servers are upgraded, interesting things can happen. The work of Authonomy writers is being devalued, it's true, as are their rankings on that site. However, I think it's irrational for them to blow up because of that, never mind blame others. I agree with you, the rankings were flawed from the beginning, and Klazart was the one who exposed that. But this should not necessitate the rash and highly angry pulling out and rejection of events that have transpired by a good number of the authors. I honestly expected more from such individuals. Of course, there are the more level-headed among you too, and I mean no insult to them. | ||
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G0dly
United States450 Posts
On March 24 2009 04:07 LuckyFool wrote: Oh and they really had it bad. I mean imagine us in their situation. Picture 800 new people registering accounts on TL to vote for something that we were all following and talking about for days and weeks beforehand. Overloading the site, flaming and causing general unrest. I'd be pretty angry and freaked out about it too. Maybe the reverse will be true for them, maybe some of them will discover the glory of sc and join TL! Imagine if Rekrul posted his "book" there...Christ that would be ridiculous. | ||
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United States7081 Posts
On March 22 2009 17:01 Hot_Bid wrote: I have a feeling this book will overtake Klazart's soon: ![[image loading]](http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5023/coverlol.png) Book Review: Important Links: Read "Shadow Rush" Today Check Out The Author's Profile I thought they worked you to death 2L year HotBid? You're a fucking god... | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
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Mooga
United States575 Posts
On March 24 2009 08:14 Mockingbird wrote: It is solely the province of the COMPANY what happens to the site. People are pulling out for a number of reasons. Klaz was merely the catalyst for the decision to leave in some cases. Not the actual cause. I think a lot of your regulars have a misguided, naive view of how something that can only be described as a book popularity contest should function. It's a book popularity contest. It is really no different from any other popularity contests, no matter how much they want to believe otherwise. Of course, they might say that merit should be the only factor in determining what comprises a top ten list, but since when did that happen in the real world? So your members have 2 choices: 1. Start slitting their wrists. 2. Get over it. And it seems like the delusional people at that site have given up and started slitting their wrists. | ||
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Descent
1244 Posts
On March 24 2009 08:44 Mooga wrote: I think a lot of your regulars have a misguided, naive view of how something that can only be described as a book popularity contest should function. It's a book popularity contest. It is really no different from any other popularity contests, no matter how much they want to believe otherwise. Of course, they might say that merit should be the only factor in determining what comprises a top ten list, but since when did that happen in the real world? So your members have 2 choices: 1. Start slitting their wrists. 2. Get over it. And it seems like the disillusioned people at that site have given up and started slitting their wrists. By "slitting their wrists," Mooga means "leaving/quitting/going elsewhere." But aside from that, I think he's largely right. Authonomy's members are largely misguided. They had no moderator, and it's not Klazart's fault there was no moderator. Who are they to blame? Gamers and trolls? Or the lack of moderation, and those behind such a lack? | ||
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Mockingbird
United Kingdom33 Posts
On March 24 2009 08:29 Descent wrote: To be perfectly honest, a number of members from Authonomy seem to be pulling out or making decisions based upon bad opinions. For example, a lot of Authonomy members seem to just now be learning of 4chan. Just now learning of Anonymous (and using Wikipedia links while they're at it). Thinking that they're being hacked because the site was undergoing maintenance. This isn't the case, and such rationalizations are wrong. Klazart isn't part of Anonymous, and he isn't even from 4chan. When servers are upgraded, interesting things can happen. The work of Authonomy writers is being devalued, it's true, as are their rankings on that site. However, I think it's irrational for them to blow up because of that, never mind blame others. I agree with you, the rankings were flawed from the beginning, and Klazart was the one who exposed that. But this should not necessitate the rash and highly angry pulling out and rejection of events that have transpired by a good number of the authors. I honestly expected more from such individuals. Of course, there are the more level-headed among you too, and I mean no insult to them. To put it purely from my perspective. I've been there six months. I've made some really great friends. I've had a ball, read some fantastic books, and everything was going great until the realisation of the ED. October's Editor's Desk was the first sign that all was not well. November's was worse, December's was worse still. January's ED... positively psychotic. I hardly entered the site, I have enough hassle in rl, I don't need that kind of crap in my escape space. Some of you who have signed up have experienced the Swoop. Bombarded with messages from eager beavers welcoming you to the site and oh by the way please read my book. Once the art of shamelessly plugging your book escaped form the forum... the slippery slope to freefall began. That was before Christmas. I was going to pull out in February. But something changed that, and I decided to stay for a while to bench test my collaboration novel. My writing partner and I want our novel to do well... but it needs a fresh approach. Authonomy is more of the same. And my two other novels could use a fresh approach too. So I'm pulling out because this is the time to go. Klazart has highlighted the issues. But pulling out is my decision which I actually took almost three months ago. To stay would be a mistake. | ||
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Mooga
United States575 Posts
On March 24 2009 08:46 Descent wrote: By "slitting their wrists," Mooga means "leaving/quitting/going elsewhere." But aside from that, I think he's largely right. Authonomy's members are largely misguided. They had no moderator, and it's not Klazart's fault there was no moderator. Who are they to blame? Gamers and trolls? Or the lack of moderation, and those behind such a lack? It seems like most of them are leaving because they just found out how the system really works and because the site "didn't do anything about it." lol, I can't believe it really came as a surprise to them. One of them left because she was appalled by the behavior of their own members (racist comments, personal attacks, etc...), but most of them left for the other reason. | ||
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Ivs
Australia139 Posts
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