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DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
February 20 2009 15:19 GMT
#81
I dont see any B- record on that iccup account:
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/nrg.bongmicro.html
>.>?
fast ball player
Profile Joined December 2008
206 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-20 16:11:23
February 20 2009 16:09 GMT
#82
On February 20 2009 20:24 Supah wrote:
I watched the pvz and didnt see mind control doing much for you in that game tbh. Lots of general protoss gayness though.

edit: watched the pvt as well. don't really know the matchup but it seemed to me that the terran sucked (I heard he is b- but he played bad) and got stuck with his tanks sieged up without vulture support 1 billion times and lost battles he should have won easily. Going tanks was cute and all but do you really think they were cost effective that game?


I am convinced there is some way to make good use of Mind Control. And I think the tanks were useful there. I don't think the T played worse than any of my opponents at that level.

You may be right they weren't that cost effective. I guess it is true that I could've won the same battles by making more toss stuff instead of the tanks. On the other hand, the replay showed how effective the tank/zeal/goon combo is. And there is one definite benefit of Mind Control to tanks strat the replay didn't get a chance to show: in a long game you can go above 200/200.

People think of MCing an scv and going up the Terran tech tree as an extravagant, unnecessary thing, but it's no more of a min/gas/time investment in big lategame strength than making stargates and fleet beacon or arbiter tribunal.
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Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
February 20 2009 16:25 GMT
#83
noobswrath im not gonna even dignify your gay post with a response besides "fuck you". I am sure eri would rape me I am not saying I am great jesus christ I am just saying I am somewhat competant in this game...... If you fucking read my post instead of just trolled you wuold realize that I said a replay of mael when the person OPENS HYDRA. you fucking blind piece of shit. dragoon you illiterate mother fucker i said for about the 10th time AROUND B I can get b- for sure just never had enough time or urge to get it up there. Can someone please close this thread as nothing helpful has come besides a few tips in which I say thank you
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Louder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States2276 Posts
February 20 2009 16:28 GMT
#84
On February 19 2009 07:19 likeaboss wrote:
maelstrom........... ok guys let me give you a little tip im around b- gamer so please dont give me rediculous ideas.... I mean maybe that lx opening that he did on bluestorm but I think they get storm very late to get mael I am not sure. I am just looking for some tips to help


Actually maelstrom before storm can be viable ... I've done it before, so has lzgamer, and we've beaten good players with it. It's all about surprise factor.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
February 20 2009 16:39 GMT
#85
kill the overlord that's giving him detection.

Oh you mean high templar.
My thinking is you might be able to hide them in a shuttle and use them ala reaver. you could also hallucinate templar maybe (hahaha) or maelstrom, which is also fun. Dark Archons are so underused in PvZ, all of their abilities rape zerg end game. Feedback defilers, Mind Control Ultralisks, Maelstrom everything else.

For those of you whom think mind control is a bad idea, consider this: Mind controlling an ultralisk, even though you get none of the zerg upgrades, is essentially a 200/200 swing (they lose an ultra and you gain one). The tech and single DA cost 450/400 I think. So if you mind control two ultra you gain a lot more than you lose. Sure it'll probably die to 8/8 crax, but at the very least it's like a super zealot.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28814 Posts
February 20 2009 16:55 GMT
#86
mind controlling is good in pvz stalemates, and vs carriers in pvp. I dont think its ever worth it other than that. I guess mcing an scv in a pvt where both you and your opponent have like 15k minerals is good, but I can count on one hand out of the tens of thousands games I've played where it would have been beneficial for me.

maelstrom is often good, most definitely worth it vs mutas, imbalanced as fuck in protoss vs zerg air fights, and its even good in lategame zeal archon templar vs ultralight fights. feedback is worth it against any protoss and zerg spellcaster.
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Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
February 20 2009 17:01 GMT
#87
louder reps plz :D long time no see friend and i would love to see some builds but i feel mael archons n storm is so gas heavy so storm has to come late but if you male properly i guess you dont need storm that early on
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Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-20 17:59:21
February 20 2009 17:50 GMT
#88
On February 21 2009 01:25 likeaboss wrote:
noobswrath im not gonna even dignify your gay post with a response besides "fuck you". I am sure eri would rape me I am not saying I am great jesus christ I am just saying I am somewhat competant in this game...... If you fucking read my post instead of just trolled you wuold realize that I said a replay of mael when the person OPENS HYDRA. you fucking blind piece of shit. dragoon you illiterate mother fucker i said for about the 10th time AROUND B I can get b- for sure just never had enough time or urge to get it up there. Can someone please close this thread as nothing helpful has come besides a few tips in which I say thank you


I bolded the part that implies that the opening was hydra just for you because you are clearly a complete moron. Additionally, my point about Drone was simply that you imply that anyone who told you you were wrong was some noob that you'd rape if they had the balls to 1v1 you, and Drone would RAPE you because you are a stupid, loudmouthed, shittalking noob who calls people who beat him maphackers and whines about offraces, rustiness, "I wasn't trying" etc after any losses. That guy, Valentine, who backed you up, is no better; he reset his stats in the middle of a game just because he's such a sore loser, giving me +13 pts instead of 130. You are all morons.



It's not like you can't use it against nonmutas either. And you aint B- if you can't tell when a Zerg is making 11 mutas after hydras



On February 21 2009 02:01 likeaboss wrote:
louder reps plz :D long time no see friend and i would love to see some builds but i feel mael archons n storm is so gas heavy so storm has to come late but if you male properly i guess you dont need storm that early on


Seriously what the fuck is so hard to comprehend here? You're not getting maelstrom before or at the same time as storm, jackass, you're getting it for when you move out, not as some defensive shit. It serves one point, totally raping their muta sniping. Don't move the fuck out vs hydras with 1 HT. You get 3-4 HT and then up maelstrom and morph 2 dts you made earlier for harassment into a DA and move out. Stop being an impatient fuck and just wait for the correct mass.
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-20 18:32:15
February 20 2009 18:19 GMT
#89
edit: nerdrage

but seriously come play me if your talking this much shit
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404.Delirium
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1190 Posts
February 20 2009 18:27 GMT
#90
On February 21 2009 03:19 likeaboss wrote:
listen here you fucking social reject dont fucking talk like you know me i have no fucking clue who you are and you dont know a thing about me. your turning this into a personal flame fest and instead of fucking giving advice your coming at my fucking neck. if your so good ill be on iccup for another hour op nrg you sad fuck. i would love to see you fucking faggoty frail ass in person keep running your fucking mouth you fucking pussy. kid so tough and strong behind the monitor. keep eating your spinach you fucking frail piece of shit n come see me if im such a shit talking excuse making noob who has never played you



Hmn? At least I he mentioned previous suggestions and gave his opinion on the thread topic.
seriously next disrespectful comment in this blog is ip ban. Be happy or get the hell out. // SC2 is like playing with neutral-colored Play-Doh while BW is like colorful Legos.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
February 20 2009 18:28 GMT
#91
I hope you 2 get tickets for the same car of disneys coaster of love. That way you can keep your squeals, scratches, ass-slaps and booming manlove out of this forum.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
February 20 2009 18:30 GMT
#92
true im foaming at the mouth with rage as we speak excuse my profanity im just really getting tired of this topic and the majority of the people commenting in it. but still noob come op nrg) iccup ill be there for awhiel longer
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EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
February 20 2009 18:30 GMT
#93
lol.. im reading alot of crazy stuff.. i have lots of mealstorm before storm builds.. and i must say i can beat A- zergs with it.. so its not like its out of the realm of possibility
i do it becasue its good.. one darkarchon can do many things.. #1 stop harass #2 stop drops #3 cluster rape #4 1 DA in my army and defiler late game is weak for the fast feedback has crazy range and casting time~ im going to be a gent i am and give you guys some reps vs. diffrent zerg builds opening DA Enjoy~

http://www.sendspace.com/file/8qtcn0
http://www.sendspace.com/file/iyxoka
http://www.sendspace.com/file/bznmzs
sadly i think these are 1.15 so probabaly gotta patch down;;

anyways hope this helps GOOD LUCK ~
Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
February 20 2009 18:32 GMT
#94
ty jakedong lol
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