Sucks that Slayer stopped playing, and Sven for that matter.. Things have changed ALOT in the foreign community for the last 4 years or so, so its alot to catch up on.

Please post your iccup name, I am interested to see how persons who have been gone for a long time can keep up with the current players

Boblion

France8043 Posts

January 13 2009 22:42 GMT

#102

Testie in his prime was such a beast. His PvP and PvT were close to pro level imo. Remember his game vs Bisu on Blitz :p
And even with his T and Z he could beat most of the good foreigners.

Please post your iccup replays ( i'm serious. I just want to see oldschool playing vs newschool ).

I think you just wake up "late". My D+ today would have been something like > C around 2003 i guess.
So > B+ players today would rape any player of your era.

littlechava

United States7221 Posts

January 13 2009 22:43 GMT

#103

On January 14 2009 07:39 Jaskwith wrote:

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Clearly a fucking tool.

I didn't like the way AttackZerg put it in his post at the time, but now I see he's clearly right. SaddleS really has no idea how things have changed and how far they've came in the years he's been inactive. Testie was definitely top 5 foreigners for at least a few years, and the current skill level on ICC is wayyyy above what it used to be.

koreasilver

9109 Posts

January 13 2009 22:45 GMT

#104

So much shit changed in the past 2 years that imagining how different the game is compared to 4 years ago makes me laugh.

Boblion

France8043 Posts

January 13 2009 22:46 GMT

#105

This is like a soccer player from the 70's thinking that he can outclass C.Ronaldo, Kaka or Etoo.
lol

Chill

Calgary26003 Posts

January 13 2009 22:46 GMT

#106

If you want to play bet games, I'm down. It won't prove anything but I'm certain I can beat you now. By the way I'm struggling at C on ICCup current (identical system to PGT), so that should give you an idea of how things have changed.

LuckyFool

United States9015 Posts

January 13 2009 22:46 GMT

#107

Yep. Game has changed much since the old days. Overall skill has gotten very good. It's quite amazing really, how people keep getting better and better.

Liquid`Ret

Netherlands4529 Posts

January 13 2009 22:47 GMT

#108

My advise is don't give this guy any attention, there's a reason why most people don't recognise his name.

Nytefish

United Kingdom4282 Posts

January 13 2009 22:48 GMT

#109

So either he learns to be a bit more humble after getting beat down by random iccup players, or he'll have a good record to C-, extrapolate it to A+ and think he's hot stuff.

niteReloaded

Croatia5282 Posts

January 13 2009 22:49 GMT

#110

My guess is that this guy will probably struggle VERY HARD to stay at C- at ICCup if he manages to get there in the first place.

The discussion in this thread is pointless.

We are talking about 2 different worlds -- Starcraft from 4-5 years ago, and starcraft now.

It's like saying, I was Mohammed Ali in last life, I think I'm gonna go train for the heavyweight title in this life.

Testie was bad then <-> Testie is extremely good now.
You were ok then <-> You very likely suck ass now.
You taught Nony the basics <-> Nony is 50X better now than you ever was (and very likely will stay.)

Why is it so hard to understand that everything in this word changes with time?

freelander

Hungary4707 Posts

January 13 2009 22:49 GMT

#111

On January 14 2009 07:42 heyoka wrote:
This argument would be best solved with a prop bet and a live stream, zulu_nation style

lol what about the 100 dollar bet about microing marine against lurker
I never saw the results

rei

United States3594 Posts

January 13 2009 22:50 GMT

#112

ya, I was around since the beginning when NTT was the hot topic then, and yes i remember saddles was amount the top tier players back then. The fact is that testie and draco got a lot better than when you were around, but they didn't accomplish as much with those skills like Elky did. testie did however take games from korean pros here and there. The skill level is a lot higher now,here is the facts, back then Elky was able to get 4th place amongst giants such as garimto, boxer, reach yellow and many more. in comparison, Nony (possibly better in skills than elky back then) only managed to almost passed his courage tournament (for progaming license)
I think it will take you at least 2 weeks to start owning the top USA players of today.

Zapdos_Smithh

Canada2620 Posts

January 13 2009 22:51 GMT

#113

On January 14 2009 07:47 ret wrote:
My advise is don't give this guy any attention, there's a reason why most people don't recognise his name.

ret has a pretty good point, but I'd happily watch the reps so w/e you guys want to do.

koreasilver

9109 Posts

January 13 2009 22:52 GMT

#114

On January 14 2009 07:49 freelander wrote:

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lol what about the 100 dollar bet about microing marine against lurker
I never saw the results

zulu lost, lol.

Jaskwith

United States197 Posts

January 13 2009 22:53 GMT

#115

On January 14 2009 07:43 littlechava wrote:

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Meh..i didn't even really read the content of his post..I just think hes a fucking tool in a funny way..the way he jumps to all these gamer's aids...like they can't defend themselves...or like they want them to....He is just a tool because he worships foreigners so much he prolly calls them his "friends" and its funny...

niteReloaded

Croatia5282 Posts

January 13 2009 22:53 GMT

#116

On the other hand, I'd be VERY interested in reading this guy's blog if he should describe his ICCup adventures in it.

In my opinion, it would be a great read for those of us who are rather new to the game. Comparing old ideas and beliefs about the game to the brutal reality of today's ICCup experience.

Boblion

France8043 Posts

January 13 2009 22:53 GMT

#117

Nony (possibly better in skills than elky back then)

Nony is better than Elky ever was imo. But Elky has 20X more achievements. That's two different eras.