you still didnt get it? this is a pro-team shared acc dude... thereisnt progamers that can play with all races decently... they are only good with 1 race. A lot of these A A+ are shared acc.

Well they are better then most top-foreigners with all races, maybe not that good tho.

ArtOfShow

Chile40 Posts

January 23 2009 19:38 GMT

#905

could that PADS guy update the thread please ? o.o

roMAD

Russia2355 Posts

January 23 2009 23:01 GMT

#906

The guy FA mentioned (forgot the id) is Dream.t)M18M
Can anyone reupload the Oblige rep? (no rapidshare pls)

SonuvBob

Aiur21550 Posts

January 23 2009 23:11 GMT

#907

This one?

roMAD

Russia2355 Posts

January 23 2009 23:16 GMT

#908

On January 24 2009 08:11 SonuvBob wrote:
This one?

Thx. It's Air[fOu].

eXigent.

Canada2419 Posts

January 24 2009 00:15 GMT

#909

while you are looking at replays romad, I was wondering if you knew who 1wlao is? Here are 2 of his replays where he is playing ZERG. These are both vs dimaga.

game 1
game 2

Random()

Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts

January 24 2009 01:11 GMT

#910

On January 24 2009 09:15 eXigent. wrote:
while you are looking at replays romad, I was wondering if you knew who 1wlao is? Here are 2 of his replays where he is playing ZERG. These are both vs dimaga.

game 1
game 2

If this thread is credible, then it's Savior.

eXigent.

Canada2419 Posts

January 24 2009 01:20 GMT

#911

On January 24 2009 10:11 Random() wrote:

Show nested quote +

If this thread is credible, then it's Savior.

When I first got the replays I compared them to 10 replays from savior, and none of them matched up. The hotkeys are significantly different, so at least in these 2 games it cannot be savior playing.

Tarmak_mk

Macedonia410 Posts

January 24 2009 01:34 GMT

#912

is it possible they change hotkeys till playing icc and after back to old ones? because if they play vs non koreans i not think they need to tring so hard so hope so they can change it, and vs koreans they play real ones too, and thats why koreans say 1wlao = savior, and in games vs dimaga u say hotkeys are differents

Lycaeus

United States1420 Posts

January 24 2009 01:48 GMT

#913

On January 24 2009 10:34 Tarmak_mk wrote:
is it possible they change hotkeys till playing icc and after back to old ones? because if they play vs non koreans i not think they need to tring so hard so hope so they can change it, and vs koreans they play real ones too, and thats why koreans say 1wlao = savior, and in games vs dimaga u say hotkeys are differents

the only problem is that purposely changing hotkeys from the ones you've used for a long time isn't as easy. Yea, he could of changed his hotkeys but when you mass game so many times a day, changing you're hotkeys really throws you off.

eXigent.

Canada2419 Posts

January 24 2009 01:57 GMT

#914

That could be 1 possibility. I was thinking after reading the translation of savior, flash, and jaedongs conversation about iccup, and perhaps they wouldnt necessarily "change" their hotkeys, but they might remove something that is a dead giveaway to their unique signature. Like for example, jaedong said flash was discovered on iccup because someone who played him checked the replay, and he hotkeyed his command center 1 - 0 , as well as a few other hotkeys that flash specifically uses. So if another progamer is able to find out who savior was, without savior knowing that his identity has been found, then you could assume that if that progamer has an upcoming match against savior, he could play him on iccup and practice specifically against savior himself, while savior knew nothing about it. That would yeild a huge advantage to that progamer.

I think because of this, progamers might not include their dead giveaways for hotkeys. Saviors dead giveaway is typically right at the start of the game he will use hotkeys 1 - 4, with #3 being his hatchery. He also usually hotkeys a larvae to 5. Perhaps he is trying to hide his hotkey giveaways (not the generic hotkeying, just the unique ones).

Of course the best counter argument to that is that most players have their hotkeys ingrained into them from years of practice. It would probably influence saviors ability to play at an A/A+ level on iccup against other smurfing progamers. I do not think savior would sit there and waste his time not playing to his full potential when playing other A class players. For this reason, I dont see why he would not risk revealing his hotkeys at a lower level vs foreigners (who dont matter to savior at all) and then play with his unique patterns vs A caliber players (who could possibly find out his aka and give it away to his practicing opponents). Either way, its probably somewhat debatable.

IdrA

United States11541 Posts

January 24 2009 01:57 GMT

#915

On January 23 2009 06:06 dshsdhk wrote:

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you still didnt get it? this is a pro-team shared acc dude... thereisnt progamers that can play with all races decently... they are only good with 1 race. A lot of these A A+ are shared acc.

thats not true, alot of pros are very good with offraces

but for someone to be raping faces at the 3 mirror matchups it is probably shared, everyone sucks at offrace mirrors.

Solidus_315

213 Posts

January 24 2009 01:58 GMT

#916

mine is messed up. please fix it

StylishVODs

Sweden5331 Posts

January 24 2009 02:31 GMT

#917

On January 24 2009 10:57 IdrA wrote:

Show nested quote +

thats not true, alot of pros are very good with offraces

but for someone to be raping faces at the 3 mirror matchups it is probably shared, everyone sucks at offrace mirrors.

although that guy only plays terran from like B+ and up so it might still be 1 guy

-orb-

United States5770 Posts

January 24 2009 02:35 GMT

#918

Hmm looking at the whole savior-played-flash thing I wish iccup had more watching-starcraft features.

Like if every game was available as a replay (though I guess then pros wouldn't play on there as much or at all), or if you could obs high level games on a relay (like source tv or hltv for counter strike).

Man that'd be so awesome to be able to watch starcraft all the time by obsing A rank matches and stuff.

Tarmak_mk

Macedonia410 Posts

January 24 2009 04:24 GMT

#919

On January 24 2009 11:35 -orb- wrote:
Man that'd be so awesome to be able to watch starcraft all the time by obsing A rank matches and stuff.

when 2 koreans play they not have lag, and when u or any other non korean join that game there will be lag. so im sure koreans progamers will not accept that, btw idea its pretty good

-orb-

United States5770 Posts

January 24 2009 11:48 GMT

#920

Yeah that's why I was saying if it was a relay it'd be sweet.

If you haven't played counter strike or counter strike source, they have a feature called Source TV (or HLTV for 1.6) where you can add a source tv relay to your server, and then people can join the source tv relay instead of the server so they can spectate the game (without any risk of lagging the players).

As an added bonus it has the ability to delay the "stream," so that you can have the source tv show what happened a certain amount of time ago (for starcraft this would have to be pretty high, but in source they usually have it around 90 seconds or 2 minutes), which helps prevent obs abuse.