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aRod
Profile Joined July 2007
United States758 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-25 01:14:26
September 25 2008 01:12 GMT
#1141
Savio the difference between the videos you posted and the video Stealth posted is Stealth's video is the vice presidential candidate while your examples are people not directly involved with Obama's campaign. Don't you think this is an important distinction? Perhaps yet another example of what I've been saying all along.
Live to win.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
September 25 2008 01:13 GMT
#1142
Well, it's fair to expect the Texas state rep to be an idiot, but Dukakis shouldn't be let off the hook for that.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
aRod
Profile Joined July 2007
United States758 Posts
September 25 2008 01:16 GMT
#1143
Well Dukakis is not involved in the Senate. He doesn't have experience relating to Obama's Senate history.
Live to win.
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
September 25 2008 01:50 GMT
#1144
Lol I come back and Savio is still on the same Obama has no historic/is too liberal/will destroy the stability of good old familys with guns while letting Al Qaeda rape our kids because they will be too busy doing gay sex abortion and drugs to care about bombing mid east! crap
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
aRod
Profile Joined July 2007
United States758 Posts
September 25 2008 01:52 GMT
#1145
On September 25 2008 10:50 D10 wrote:
Lol I come back and Savio is still on the same Obama has no historic/is too liberal/will destroy the stability of good old familys with guns while letting Al Qaeda rape our kids because they will be too busy doing gay sex abortion and drugs to care about bombing mid east! crap

Savio argues tactfully. Try to appreciate it. I believe his support for McCain is gravely misplaced, but still I give him some respect.
Live to win.
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-25 02:01:31
September 25 2008 01:55 GMT
#1146
alright

/respect Savio

I hope that somewhere between your firefox tabs of McCain support videos and pages you realize you have been placing your support on the party that will do way less overall good for your country.

Edit: doesnt it bother you at all that the party supporting McCain is absolutely desperate and trying every durty trick they can to win ? or are you as desperate as them not to see democrats/obama in the white house?

Not that the democrats wont do durty things, only that the ratio is like 6 to 1 for republicans

Im gonna take a break from this discussion, its too frustranting on your common sense.
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
September 25 2008 02:10 GMT
#1147
This thread is way too long to check but did anyone see the clip of mccain saying "fuck" like over twenty times in an interview he did while he was on a plane?
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
aRod
Profile Joined July 2007
United States758 Posts
September 25 2008 02:19 GMT
#1148
I knew McCain was known for dropping the F bomb. I read about it being use on Cornyn and Grassley in the past. Not that there's anything wrong with the F bomb, but can you find that video link?
Live to win.
geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-25 03:16:23
September 25 2008 02:29 GMT
#1149
On September 25 2008 09:05 Savio wrote:
Thanks I got it now.

Also, here is the source for the origin of that image:

Source: Rates from Joint Committee on Taxation publication #JCX-6-01; Receipts from FY 2009 Historical Tables, Budget of the United States Government, Table 2.3.

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[url=http://www.heritage.org/research/features/budgetchartbook/images/fed-rev-spend-2008-boc-T1-Income-Tax-Receipts-Stay-Constant.gif]http://www.heritage.org/research/features/budgetchartbook/images/fed-rev-spend-2008-boc-T1-Income-Tax-Receipts-Stay-Constant.gif[/url]

Now I'm not an expert by any means, but isn't this only important if there is a significant correlation between income and GDP besides the fact that they both usually increase? If one increases faster than the other, doesn't that have a much larger effect on this graph?

Also, isn't it a bit deceptive to show the two lines on the same graph, as the Y-axis for one is % of Income, and the Y-axis for the other is % of GDP (for which a small % increase can mean a very large $ increase for government programs and initiatives). For that reason, wouldn't it be better to look at the second line on a graph like this one:
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Coincidentally, take a look at this version of the same graph over the timespan of 1992 (beginning of Clinton years) to 2000 (end of Clinton / beginning of Bush) to now and see if you can spot when Tax Receipts as a percentage of GDP were increasing and when they were decreasing.

But like I said, I admit I'm not an expert on this type of thing so I expect my thinking is probably way off.
poor newb
Profile Joined April 2004
United States1879 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-25 03:01:08
September 25 2008 02:52 GMT
#1150
On September 25 2008 09:33 Savio wrote:


and



It looks like both sides can do it.

The trick is you demand for specifics for something, tape it live so they can't take time to think and don't allow them any preparation. And when they can't..does that mean they are uninformed or that it doesn't exist?

I think that in reality its just the way being interviewed is. If you want to embarrass someone or try to make a political statement, demand specifics and allow no preparation.

Journalistic political tricks don't mean much whether they are against democrats or republicans.


whats worse? random people get hired to talk stupid on their show or palin not knowing what her running mate does
when you run for vice president, you should at least know what your running mate actually stands for
How do you mine minerals?
geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-25 03:16:53
September 25 2008 03:13 GMT
#1151
edit: Sorry, accidentally quoted instead of edited my previous post when the picture didn't work lol.
crabapple
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States397 Posts
September 25 2008 03:17 GMT
#1152
seriously, platforms nowadays mean shit.

bush said no nation building etc etc.
but i guess if ur pretty up there in a a secret society an u have the New World Order as your agenda, then i guess you really don't give a shit as long as you win. cause your agenda is to tear the constitution to pieces and put the world under fascist dictatorship under the pope. =/
ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
September 25 2008 03:21 GMT
#1153
On September 25 2008 12:17 crabapple wrote:
seriously, platforms nowadays mean shit.

bush said no nation building etc etc.
but i guess if ur pretty up there in a a secret society an u have the New World Order as your agenda, then i guess you really don't give a shit as long as you win. cause your agenda is to tear the constitution to pieces and put the world under fascist dictatorship under the pope. =/
You heard it here first, folks.
MC Fighting!~
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-25 07:24:32
September 25 2008 07:16 GMT
#1154


CAN I GET YOU A RIDE TO THE AIRPORT?
looooooooooooooool
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
September 25 2008 07:48 GMT
#1155
On September 25 2008 12:17 crabapple wrote:
seriously, platforms nowadays mean shit.

bush said no nation building etc etc.
but i guess if ur pretty up there in a a secret society an u have the New World Order as your agenda, then i guess you really don't give a shit as long as you win. cause your agenda is to tear the constitution to pieces and put the world under fascist dictatorship under the pope. =/

OMG

LOL

haha, I'm not even kidding I burst out laughing when i read that

the pope

THE POPE LOL WTF?
in Afghanistan we have 20% literacy rate
BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-25 08:21:17
September 25 2008 08:21 GMT
#1156
On September 25 2008 11:19 aRod wrote:
I knew McCain was known for dropping the F bomb. I read about it being use on Cornyn and Grassley in the past. Not that there's anything wrong with the F bomb, but can you find that video link?





this is the candidate, unbelievable
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
MyLostTemple *
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2921 Posts
September 25 2008 10:41 GMT
#1157
wtf lol
Follow me on twitter: CallMeTasteless
aRod
Profile Joined July 2007
United States758 Posts
September 25 2008 14:18 GMT
#1158
Yeah, John McCain was acting like a homeless angry vietnam veteran in that video. If I was with the Obama campaign, I would blast that video on adds during the last week of the election to show Americans the kind of personality their GOP nominee has.
Live to win.
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8859 Posts
September 25 2008 14:37 GMT
#1159
On September 25 2008 10:08 Jibba wrote:
Palin walked into some of the problems on her own in that interview. Couric was pretty harsh too, but it's no surpise that republicans are incredibly nervous about her debate with Biden and are hoping to delay it.



Holy shit I can't wait for the VP debate. I'm looking more forward to it than any other debate =]

It'll be like a combination of Michael Bay and Ricky Gervais. Buildings will crumble, the sky will turn black - but all the while things will feel very awkward.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8859 Posts
September 25 2008 14:43 GMT
#1160
And how about this for a headline:

What's More Is That She Cannot Put Together A Sentence Or, For That Matter, A Thought; Is This a Conspiracy to Make George Bush Seem Literate And Coherent?

looooooooooooooooooooooooooool

I'd post more articles, but I can't think of any right now. I'll try to find ya some and I'll bring em to ya!
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
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