EPTHe's my favorite player, but he's far from undefeatable.
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anotak
United States1537 Posts
He's my favorite player, but he's far from undefeatable. | ||
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
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leviathan400
United Kingdom393 Posts
I hope we will see more foreigners at WCG in the top 3. | ||
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
If you watch several episodes of "Battlenet Attack" or "I Love Star", you'll probably catch top gamers losing to random gamers with their off-races and from time to time with their main race. Whatever the excuses may be, progamers had trouble keeping a clean record against random Stacraft enthusiasts for a meager ten games or so. Stork in particular went under the spotlight when he lost comprehensively against a no name terran player on Longinus (a protoss haven). That's not all. GoRush and Xellos are students at my school and they attend school festivities every once a while. They used to play against the top players in our school for fun. Would you believe it if I said that GoRush was soundly beaten by a engineer student on his favourite map Luna two years ago when he was still a top player? The gap between amateurs and progamers in general got smaller. Progamers are not untouchable. And people who make it to WCG are very good amateur players. Progamers WILL drop some games at the WCG (like they did every year) and some unfortunate progamer might have to face the humiliation of being eliminated by an amateur (it too happened almost every year). So what's new? Progamers do lose to good amateur players under the right circumstances. That's not enough for a non-Korean to get the WCG Gold though. Name me a non-Korean capable of winning the entire competition. And I don't mean players capable to taking a game off progamers or maybe even twice in a BO3 on a good day. If you can't, the chances of a non-Korean winning the the entire competition will be the same as before: minimal. You might as well predict Rock finishing first place this OSL. | ||
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2BearqLoza
134 Posts
On May 19 2008 22:22 Hyperionnn wrote: Wat? Imo, koreans struggled hardest in WCG 2007, Pj vs Savior, Stork is about to lose 2nd game in final, as Pj attacked really poorly in his natural, only 1 Korean in Semi-Final, i am pretty sure that this is not a dominance. Savior is playing very bad since Blizzcon, and overall, Koreans did dominate. Yes, it is true that Koreans arent consistant and all, but I cant think of a way any non Korean can take 2 games from Flash, or Jaedong, or many many others..... | ||
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2BearqLoza
134 Posts
On May 20 2008 07:36 katona wrote: I saw a game a few days ago where some new kid who'd never been on TV before took a match and nearly the bo3 from Flash in the gomtv classic. He's my favorite player, but he's far from undefeatable. And yet again... that new kid............is Korean............... | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On May 20 2008 05:09 {88}iNcontroL wrote: How the hell can you say that? We have never had chaos/ICCUP with chaos. That is unique to THIS timeframe not years past. And players have improved each year true, but not with the added bonus of chaos plugin. You are missing some pretty important factors here. I wasn't responding to all your points there, only to the part about how much better the foreigners have become. I didn't say anything about the Chaoslauncher argument because I don't know how much of a factor that'll be as I've never actually played this game on a high level. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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himurakenshin
Canada1845 Posts
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eazo
United States530 Posts
gogogo foreign scene WOOOOOOOOOOOO | ||
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himurakenshin
Canada1845 Posts
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OhThatDang
United States4685 Posts
On May 21 2008 04:38 himurakenshin wrote: Koreans are too cocky these days, they are just winning because their players practice so much more than non-korean pro's actually because their pride forces them not to lose | ||
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ThePhan2m
Norway2751 Posts
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Pellucidity
Netherlands377 Posts
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
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MadNeSs
Denmark1507 Posts
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EGoldman
United States110 Posts
On May 21 2008 04:38 himurakenshin wrote: Koreans are too cocky these days, they are just winning because their players practice so much more than non-korean pro's What kind of crap post is this? And a weightlifter is just stronger because he's in the gym so much more than your average Joe. What's your point?? Is this some kind of deep-seated insecurity where in your own little mind you're framing it as some sort of racial competition?? Is this the same sentiment that leads some people to say white people > all because they've been more technologically advanced for the past few centuries? Of course it has everything to do with how much the players train. Korea's SC community is vibrant, popular, and has FINANCIAL support. That goes a long way toward making them superior. That's what the word PROFESSIONAL means. They get paid to do it. I'm sure a NASCAR driver would feel cocky street racing vs some random kid too. Whining about it and pointing out obvious factors doesn't blot out the fact it's true. Korea's SC community is much more competitive than anywhere outside of that. Don't get mad at Korea, get mad at your own country's lack of interest if you're unhappy about foreigners not succeeding. | ||
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Pellucidity
Netherlands377 Posts
P.s. Incontrol did you manage to qualify for the WCG? Not sure what region you're in so I can't tell. Because I saw you play during the 2007 (I think) WCG qualifiers and you were really good, and I can't help but thinking this post is somehow related to you qualifying yourself for the WCG final and being extremely confident you're going to get us foreigners the gold this year lol. Maybe I'm just reading a little too much into this. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13526 Posts
At the end of the day, who out the top foreign players would beat players like Flash, Jaedong or Bisu (or any of the top 30 Kespa players)? Be honest now. Foreign players have improved no doubt, but no where near enough to take down the best Korea has to offer. | ||
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Pellucidity
Netherlands377 Posts
On May 22 2008 00:19 RowdierBob wrote: You can make all the predictions and arguments you want. At the end of the day, who out the top foreign players would beat players like Flash, Jaedong or Bisu (or any of the top 30 Kespa players)? Be honest now. Foreign players have improved no doubt, but no where near enough to take down the best Korea has to offer. Mind you Stork VS PJ last year was fairly close (atleast that's the way I remember it). | ||
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