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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
I don't think the min/maxers (that's us!) take the strategy out of RTS, we take the real-time part out. In any matchup, the number of strategies you can realistically use are so limited that decent players know them all and have counters prearranged. Strategy is created beforehand; the game is your time to execute that strategy. This isn't chess - there aren't so many possible move combinations that it's impossible to account for them all. It's a complete fallacy to think that a slower game speed is going to give you enough time to have a strategic epiphany in the middle of the game that leads to your victory. While that would indeed be very exciting, it's just not realistic among players with any experience with the game. Among newbies? They can play against each other on slower game settings if they need time to ponder their moves. | ||
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Hippopotamus
1914 Posts
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MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
Nah, I think a Mod took it down because they had to do damage control and not in the form of us. Apparently some deadbeat started spamming porn in their forums last time I checked, which was something like ten hours ago. I heard this happened to them before and it took just as long for a mod to take care of it. Sigh, you would think they had their shit together. Guess not. | ||
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Morzas
United States387 Posts
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comabreaded
United States2166 Posts
 Last Romantic rapes a newb and he uses his magazine as his cry blog. boo hoo. | ||
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5485 Posts
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LosingID8
CA10824 Posts
On May 05 2008 17:25 jimminy_kriket wrote: Do people actually use excel to work out strategies in starcraft? i've never actually heard of it being done | ||
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
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maybenexttime
Poland5411 Posts
On May 05 2008 12:41 prOxi.swAMi wrote: The thread on PCGamer seems to have been deleted. We won? They've moved the forums to GamesRadar.com. They said they are going to do that soon. ;; | ||
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Sadist
United States7164 Posts
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Lhyviathan
Australia975 Posts
How the fuck did this guy get a job reporting on RTS? Sack him, or relocate him to turn-based strategy, please. | ||
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jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
On May 05 2008 17:25 jimminy_kriket wrote: Do people actually use excel to work out strategies in starcraft? I doubt excel would be useful But I think some players, like nal_ra or boxer has spent a lot of time developing their strategies. They probably first come up with an idea, like the FD build to punish protosses who get greedy in early game. Then they probably mass game with team members testing different builds, unit combinations and timings to make it as good as possible. | ||
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SlickR12345
Macedonia408 Posts
You have MBS now, auto-mine, large production que and so forth and with their 300apm they run out of things to do. So game-speed is not the factor here, i mean the game can be played at slowest and still you have your hands full with things to do.... Thats why i've been against so many automations... Yeah a newcomer or a guy who started playing RTS yesterday may not like to have his hands full and would like to play slower and easier but in the end what makes the game interesting in the long run is having to do a lot. If the game does all the things for you it may be ultra interesting for a week, month or mauby even a year but after that no one plays it, except dozens of hardcore guys hooked on slow pace. But in the end even starcraft can be a long game, i'm talking about casual and pro games alike. We've seen and played battle.net and multiplayer games lasting for over an hour as well as pro games lasting almost an hour! So what i'm trying to say is that there needs to be a balance between the automation, things you can do and game speed. It would be stoopid when the game ships to have people seting different speed settings and not being abble to join a game coz there isn't a game with your prefered speed. | ||
Xeofreestyler
Belgium6759 Posts
Who's with me?! Oh and torches and hayforks are, ofcourse, allowed. | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On May 06 2008 00:26 Xeofreestyler wrote: I feel like making an online petition that this guy should be BANNED from ever writing about RTS again. Who's with me?! Oh and torches and hayforks are, ofcourse, allowed. But that's only one retard game magazine writer. There's probably dozens more out there exactly like him... | ||
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TheOvermind77
United States923 Posts
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InterWill
Sweden117 Posts
Why would voicing ones opinion on RTS-games disqualify said person from writing for publication, covering RTS-games or otherwise? You are acting like frightened children. If someone brings up an opinion which you do not agree with they are met with a torrent of responses like: "You are not qualified to..." "You are ignorant..." "You should be BANNED from ever writing..." "You do not understand..." "It's on wikipedia..." "We've discussed this already..." Just because there's a strong community of players playing a certain game a certain way, it doesn't necessarily follow that other ways of enjoying said game are wrong. Just because someone has a different opinion of a game, it doesn't necessarily follow that they're "ignorant". This person could, even if bestowed with your eternal wisdom regarding StarCraft, come to a different conclusion and form a different opinion than you. Your opinion isn't divine. Accept the fact that people can have different opinions, try not to alienate them. Discuss it in a civilized manner. At the end of the day, people living outside of the box might offer interesting perspectives and innovative ideas - which might make StarCraft II better. | ||
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