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a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5102 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-09 15:17:25
June 09 2008 13:56 GMT
#1641
obama speaks to his campaign staff after clinching the nomination:



kind of a neat video. it's nice to see him talking when he's not giving a stump speech or media talking points - kind of a window into a more casual obama.

PS. if anyyyyybody wants to make a fresh general election thread please do. just make sure you take the poll from this OP - no point in wasting 82 votes
"you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen" - racebannon
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 09 2008 19:59 GMT
#1642
Well it's all about the economy now. Maybe Obama can score some points with this seeing how McCain has said he knows very little about Economics.

McCain pushed back, saying Obama's bid to end the Bush administration's tax cuts for upper-income Americans would only worsen the already struggling economy. He is airing TV ads in key states on the Iraq war, which he sees as a better issue this fall. But he took questions on the economy from donors in Virginia on Monday, and planned a speech Tuesday to small business owners in Washington.


"Talk to somebody who owns a couple of trucks and makes a living with those trucks," McCain said. "Ask them whether they'd like to have some relief -- 18 1/2 cents per gallon for gasoline and 24 1/2 cents for diesel. They say it matters."


Article
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
June 09 2008 20:55 GMT
#1643
I'm not american and have no knowledge what so ever about the american elections situation but I have a feeling that this Obama guys is gonna win.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-09 21:02:51
June 09 2008 21:01 GMT
#1644
On June 10 2008 04:59 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Well it's all about the economy now. Maybe Obama can score some points with this seeing how McCain has said he knows very little about Economics.

Show nested quote +
McCain pushed back, saying Obama's bid to end the Bush administration's tax cuts for upper-income Americans would only worsen the already struggling economy. He is airing TV ads in key states on the Iraq war, which he sees as a better issue this fall. But he took questions on the economy from donors in Virginia on Monday, and planned a speech Tuesday to small business owners in Washington.


Show nested quote +
"Talk to somebody who owns a couple of trucks and makes a living with those trucks," McCain said. "Ask them whether they'd like to have some relief -- 18 1/2 cents per gallon for gasoline and 24 1/2 cents for diesel. They say it matters."


Article

Both candidates are partially right. You can't simply blame oil companies for inflated gas prices, because there's still a major chokehold on refineries and a significant portion of the inflation is simply due to investors. Eventually the oil market is going to crash, just as the stock and real estate markets did.

The gas tax holiday is worthless, but I don't think it's necessarily the right move to increase taxes on the oil companies.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
June 09 2008 21:23 GMT
#1645
OBAMA FIGHTING !!!!!!!!

I cheer for him a lot, this is the kind of example the world needs, that change is possible, my country doesnt believe in it anymore.
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
June 09 2008 21:31 GMT
#1646
On June 10 2008 06:01 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2008 04:59 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Well it's all about the economy now. Maybe Obama can score some points with this seeing how McCain has said he knows very little about Economics.

McCain pushed back, saying Obama's bid to end the Bush administration's tax cuts for upper-income Americans would only worsen the already struggling economy. He is airing TV ads in key states on the Iraq war, which he sees as a better issue this fall. But he took questions on the economy from donors in Virginia on Monday, and planned a speech Tuesday to small business owners in Washington.


"Talk to somebody who owns a couple of trucks and makes a living with those trucks," McCain said. "Ask them whether they'd like to have some relief -- 18 1/2 cents per gallon for gasoline and 24 1/2 cents for diesel. They say it matters."


Article

Both candidates are partially right. You can't simply blame oil companies for inflated gas prices, because there's still a major chokehold on refineries and a significant portion of the inflation is simply due to investors. Eventually the oil market is going to crash, just as the stock and real estate markets did.

The gas tax holiday is worthless, but I don't think it's necessarily the right move to increase taxes on the oil companies.


I'm not so sure that the oil market will crash. It's not like stock, it's integral to our daily lives. There's always gonna be a demand til we come up with something else.

And yeah, I agree with what you're saying about hiking the taxes on oil companies. Honestly, they will just pass it along to us, since there isn't a damn thing we can do.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 11 2008 00:06 GMT
#1647
Why McCain is dining at the Waffle House


Dick Polman just doesn't like McCain.

In an online letter to the conservative National Review, a McCain aide said that the candidate applauds President Bush for wiretapping American citizens without warrants, despite the 1978 federal law that has long required such warrants. According to the letter, McCain believes that working closely with the telecoms on survelliance is "constitutional and appropriate...as authorized by Article II of the Constitution." That's a signal to conservatives that McCain supports the concept of an all-powerful "unitary executive," freed of the normal congressional checks and balances.

Yet that's not what McCain was saying last winter. In a questionnaire, the Boston Globe asked him whether he believed that a president could conduct warrantless domestic surveillance in defiance of federal law. In response, McCain said that such laws don't apply to surveillance conducted abroad, and then said: "I think that presidents have the obligation to obey and enforce laws that are passed by Congress and signed into law by the president, no matter what the situation is...I don't think the president has the right to disobey any law." (Emphases mine.)


And Obama is up 4.3 points against McCain according to RCP.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-11 00:15:07
June 11 2008 00:14 GMT
#1648
On June 10 2008 06:31 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2008 06:01 Jibba wrote:
On June 10 2008 04:59 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Well it's all about the economy now. Maybe Obama can score some points with this seeing how McCain has said he knows very little about Economics.

McCain pushed back, saying Obama's bid to end the Bush administration's tax cuts for upper-income Americans would only worsen the already struggling economy. He is airing TV ads in key states on the Iraq war, which he sees as a better issue this fall. But he took questions on the economy from donors in Virginia on Monday, and planned a speech Tuesday to small business owners in Washington.


"Talk to somebody who owns a couple of trucks and makes a living with those trucks," McCain said. "Ask them whether they'd like to have some relief -- 18 1/2 cents per gallon for gasoline and 24 1/2 cents for diesel. They say it matters."


Article

Both candidates are partially right. You can't simply blame oil companies for inflated gas prices, because there's still a major chokehold on refineries and a significant portion of the inflation is simply due to investors. Eventually the oil market is going to crash, just as the stock and real estate markets did.

The gas tax holiday is worthless, but I don't think it's necessarily the right move to increase taxes on the oil companies.


I'm not so sure that the oil market will crash. It's not like stock, it's integral to our daily lives. There's always gonna be a demand til we come up with something else.

And yeah, I agree with what you're saying about hiking the taxes on oil companies. Honestly, they will just pass it along to us, since there isn't a damn thing we can do.

The market will crash. At some point when oil prices get high enough, we'll find or negotiate a new supply. Once the futures investors start losing money (ie. price of oil is lower than the speculated value), they'll bail and the price will tumble down. Maybe not to sub-$100 levels with the war going on and all, but the price of gas will drop dramatically. The question is simply how long will it take.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
June 11 2008 00:21 GMT
#1649
Obama hwaiting!

GO SON!
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
Cobalt
Profile Joined April 2008
United States441 Posts
June 11 2008 00:31 GMT
#1650
On June 11 2008 09:21 Alethios wrote:
Obama hwaiting!

GO SON!


This post forced an image of Obama vs. McCain on Python, Obama being Protoss and McCain being Terran, into my mind.

Obama opens up with standard two-gate range but WHAT IS THIS McCain is sending out two SCVs to the middle and building two PROXY RAX. Obama is having difficulty defending, manages to hold off the cheese with excellent probe micro and dragoons. McCain begins work on his factories and begins mine upgrade for vults, gets 6 vults and heads toward Obama's natural, which he is taking. He's forced to cancel the Nexus and McCain takes the opportunity to expand to his natural. Tanks being produced from McCain's factories now, siege mode and vult speed getting upgraded. Obama goes for Robotics Facility to a Support Bay, getting Reavers.

McCain's tank and vult force pushes out and contains Obama, but the Shuttle and two Reavers are already headed for his main. And WHAT'S THIS due to old age McCain has forgotten to build an Ebay! The Reavers rape EVERYTHING, killing 20 SCVs between them before McCain's contain comes back and forces the reavers out. Gets a few more SCVs at the nat.

Meanwhile, Obama has gotten his Archives and is upgrading Storm, templar are out. Pushes with goons+zeals+templar into McCain's weakened natural and takes out the CC. Drops Reavers at the bottom of the main to draw forces away from the ramp, Obama's army comes in and starts RAPING THE CRAP OUT OF EVERYTHING. McCain still not GGing so Obama builds a Donkey out of Pylons. The army just keeps pushing in, down go add-ons, factories, supply depots, and GEEE GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Obama wins!

Oh now what is this? Obama is coming out for a victory ceremony? It appears he mouths "Yes, we can!" before backflipping off the stage to the cheers of the American people.

It is over, and Obama wins!
Solarian
Profile Joined June 2008
United States100 Posts
June 11 2008 00:43 GMT
#1651
I meant to vote for Nader, but clicked on Ron Paul.
Hi.
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
June 11 2008 01:06 GMT
#1652
The good guy cannot be protoss ¬¬.
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 11 2008 01:28 GMT
#1653
Ron Paul is having his own convention:

"We plan on having a large rally," said Paul spokesman Jesse Benton. "We want it to be a celebration of Republican values and what the Republican Party has traditionally stood for."


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080610/ap_on_el_pr/ron_paul_convention
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5102 Posts
June 11 2008 19:31 GMT
#1654
everyone must watch this video:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/25085736#25085736

it's a highlight reel recap of the primaries, really worth watching imo
"you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen" - racebannon
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
June 11 2008 19:46 GMT
#1655
On June 11 2008 09:14 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2008 06:31 Hawk wrote:
On June 10 2008 06:01 Jibba wrote:
On June 10 2008 04:59 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Well it's all about the economy now. Maybe Obama can score some points with this seeing how McCain has said he knows very little about Economics.

McCain pushed back, saying Obama's bid to end the Bush administration's tax cuts for upper-income Americans would only worsen the already struggling economy. He is airing TV ads in key states on the Iraq war, which he sees as a better issue this fall. But he took questions on the economy from donors in Virginia on Monday, and planned a speech Tuesday to small business owners in Washington.


"Talk to somebody who owns a couple of trucks and makes a living with those trucks," McCain said. "Ask them whether they'd like to have some relief -- 18 1/2 cents per gallon for gasoline and 24 1/2 cents for diesel. They say it matters."


Article

Both candidates are partially right. You can't simply blame oil companies for inflated gas prices, because there's still a major chokehold on refineries and a significant portion of the inflation is simply due to investors. Eventually the oil market is going to crash, just as the stock and real estate markets did.

The gas tax holiday is worthless, but I don't think it's necessarily the right move to increase taxes on the oil companies.


I'm not so sure that the oil market will crash. It's not like stock, it's integral to our daily lives. There's always gonna be a demand til we come up with something else.

And yeah, I agree with what you're saying about hiking the taxes on oil companies. Honestly, they will just pass it along to us, since there isn't a damn thing we can do.

The market will crash. At some point when oil prices get high enough, we'll find or negotiate a new supply. Once the futures investors start losing money (ie. price of oil is lower than the speculated value), they'll bail and the price will tumble down. Maybe not to sub-$100 levels with the war going on and all, but the price of gas will drop dramatically. The question is simply how long will it take.

Ah, when you said crash, I thought you meant like a total flatline, back to like 60 or so =p

I highly doubt it will ever go sub $100, unless we find another reliable source of energy. If anything, any major price slashing would be a result of profit taking, me thinks. Yeah, there might be a minor correction of sorts—gold and silver do this a lot—but anything drastic would be more based on profit taking and would recover.

Then again, I'm basing my judgment on my experience with gold and silver, so who knows!!
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aqui
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany1023 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-11 21:44:26
June 11 2008 21:18 GMT
#1656
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 11 2008 21:24 GMT
#1657
CNN's Political Ticker:

Poll shows Obama picking up Clinton voters

A new poll out Wednesday suggests Barack Obama is picking up support among older female voters, a demographic that largely voted for Hillary Clinton in the prolonged Democratic primary race.

The findings could be a sign the Illinois senator is making significant strides among that bloc of voters, who had been fiercely loyal to Clinton and potentially ambivalent about supporting Obama in the general election.



And...
McCain's latest Iraq comments draw fire

The Arizona senator made the comments on NBC's Today Show where he was asked if he had an estimate of when a withdrawal process may be possible.

"No, but that's not too important," McCain replied. "What’s important is the casualties in Iraq, Americans are in South Korea, Americans are in Japan, American troops are in Germany. That’s all fine. American casualties and the ability to withdraw; we will be able to withdraw."
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
BunkerPush
Profile Joined June 2006
United States107 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-13 00:03:32
June 13 2008 00:00 GMT
#1658
Two things id like to know from Obama:

1. What is he going to "change"? I keep hearing this "Change"..

2. And how is he going to do it?

=)
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 13 2008 04:53 GMT
#1659
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/

We have just updated 13 state matchup polls between Obama and McCain and of those 12 matched the previous state result... What flipped??? Michigan.

Michigan went from McCain's corner to Obama.. helping to extend Obama's electoral vote lead to over 100.

Here is what the presidential race would look like if it were to be held today, according to our estimations:

* Barack Obama - 320
* John McCain - 218

Michigan is a crucial state but so are so many other states... McCain could add Romney as a VP to help shore up Michigan but that would still put him about 70 EV behind.


Kinda of wary about this, you think this would be major news if this was true.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
XoXiDe
Profile Joined September 2006
United States620 Posts
June 13 2008 04:58 GMT
#1660
On June 13 2008 09:00 BunkerPush wrote:
Two things id like to know from Obama:

1. What is he going to "change"? I keep hearing this "Change"..

2. And how is he going to do it?

=)


http://www.barackobama.com why can't you try and find out for yourself.
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