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ox.tQ
Profile Joined November 2010
794 Posts
March 02 2021 01:10 GMT
#1
Hi everyone! I'd like to promote Scan's new Terran Guide Pack. It is designed to help Terran players of all ranks. Scan is a Korean semi-progamer

You can follow his Twitch here

According to Scan, his Terran Guide Pack includes:

"8 videos of TvP, 3 videos of TvT, 4 videos of TvZ, totaling 15 videos... If you are interested in improving your Terran skills and knowledge, you should definitely buy it! It is covered with explanation in Korean language, but you will understand and figure it out easily with the small details I'm showing on the screen"

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This offer only costs $12. I believe Scan is offering it cheaper than he could in order to sell it to more people.

Payment method: Direct PayPal transaction.

Payment type: Friends and Family, and then he will give you access to download the guide pack via his Google Drive.

If you're interested or if you have questions, you can contact Scan via Discord (Scan #5181) or join his Discord Server

Please consider supporting Scan and your own Terran skills by buying this pack. If you play another race (Protoss or Zerg), you might also benefit from it.

Thanks for reading~
https://www.twitch.tv/TeamThinkQuickTTV *** https://trovo.live/TeamThinkQuickTTV *** https://play.afreecatv.com/axtqttv
CryptoKnightsGG
Profile Joined January 2021
20 Posts
March 02 2021 01:12 GMT
#2
TL fascist admins going to let this shit slide?

User was temp banned for this post.
ox.tQ
Profile Joined November 2010
794 Posts
March 02 2021 01:26 GMT
#3
My apologies if I'm not supposed to post about this kind of stuff. I had asked Scan to promote his guide pack on forums and discords (I mod for him sometimes on his Twitch) and he suggested that I help him out.
https://www.twitch.tv/TeamThinkQuickTTV *** https://trovo.live/TeamThinkQuickTTV *** https://play.afreecatv.com/axtqttv
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10142 Posts
March 02 2021 01:40 GMT
#4
On March 02 2021 10:12 CryptoKnightsGG wrote:
TL fascist admins going to let this shit slide?

What rules is this post breaking? I guess advertising? But i think this is content created that helps the community far more than it's truly "advertising". It's the same as any replay pack, just with some money attached to access the files.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
March 02 2021 02:23 GMT
#5
would have been nice to have an english translation for his content but I assume thats why he himself hasn't advertised it on TL.

hopefully with a few buys he can pay someone to translate it.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10126 Posts
March 02 2021 02:44 GMT
#6
On March 02 2021 10:40 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2021 10:12 CryptoKnightsGG wrote:
TL fascist admins going to let this shit slide?

What rules is this post breaking? I guess advertising? But i think this is content created that helps the community far more than it's truly "advertising". It's the same as any replay pack, just with some money attached to access the files.

fubu bro, Scan has been a great part of our community for years.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19031 Posts
March 02 2021 03:12 GMT
#7
On March 02 2021 10:12 CryptoKnightsGG wrote:
TL fascist admins going to let this shit slide?

Yep.
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Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
311 Posts
March 02 2021 04:00 GMT
#8
Yehhhhhhhhhhaa...... no offense, cool idea BUT why would someone pay for something that is explained in a language they don't understand?

=.=
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
March 02 2021 04:09 GMT
#9
hello i am a human and i like to complain
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9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
March 02 2021 04:14 GMT
#10
why is he advertising korean guides, you can go buy guides from light for like $15 and you get more vids lol.
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LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
March 02 2021 04:48 GMT
#11
On March 02 2021 13:14 9-BiT wrote:
why is he advertising korean guides, you can go buy guides from light for like $15 and you get more vids lol.


Light's guidepack is also Korean, 18 videos for $20, made in 2019 or so. People who really care about learning games, knowledges, game-sense, etc, language should not be mattered just like watching/learning football for new and fresh blood athletes.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
shafirudd
Profile Joined June 2019
United States23 Posts
March 02 2021 04:57 GMT
#12
Are there any Protoss guides floating out there for purchase
Avi-Love
Profile Joined November 2003
Denmark423 Posts
March 02 2021 05:29 GMT
#13
On March 02 2021 11:44 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2021 10:40 FlaShFTW wrote:
On March 02 2021 10:12 CryptoKnightsGG wrote:
TL fascist admins going to let this shit slide?

What rules is this post breaking? I guess advertising? But i think this is content created that helps the community far more than it's truly "advertising". It's the same as any replay pack, just with some money attached to access the files.

fubu bro, Scan has been a great part of our community for years.


Has he though? And does it make up for all the bad things he has done? Personally I don't think so.
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-02 06:08:04
March 02 2021 06:05 GMT
#14
On March 02 2021 14:29 Avi-Love wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2021 11:44 Jealous wrote:
On March 02 2021 10:40 FlaShFTW wrote:
On March 02 2021 10:12 CryptoKnightsGG wrote:
TL fascist admins going to let this shit slide?

What rules is this post breaking? I guess advertising? But i think this is content created that helps the community far more than it's truly "advertising". It's the same as any replay pack, just with some money attached to access the files.

fubu bro, Scan has been a great part of our community for years.


Has he though? And does it make up for all the bad things he has done? Personally I don't think so.


i've done great things more than bad things. and i've already made an apology about my past actions long time ago and made things clear up. if you are gonna start flaming, you truly are living in the past.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
March 02 2021 06:07 GMT
#15
guys please, not in the thread.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
March 02 2021 06:10 GMT
#16
On March 02 2021 15:07 BLinD-RawR wrote:
guys please, not in the thread.


I'll stop replying, thanks for managing and I miss your commentary =]
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
Avi-Love
Profile Joined November 2003
Denmark423 Posts
March 02 2021 06:20 GMT
#17
So I'm not allowed to question Scan in a thread dedicated to a Scan guide/ video pack (that also violates TL policies)? The guy cares so little about the foreign fans that he won't even translate or add subtitles to his pack, but still expects foreigners to buy it. Seems to me that this would in fact be the ideal place to discuss such a thing!

Furthermore, I disagree strongly with you having done great things, in fact I think more often than not you're only looking out for yourself, which is why you cheated several times. Which is why you decided to ignore a boycott of a Chinese tournament that had Savior in it, and which is why you continuously went into foreign twitch channels to say "gg" and then advertise your own stream. It's not like your transgressions are all in the past, you continue to act selfish and without morals. After 10 years of such behaviour, the character of a man is quite clear.
ox.tQ
Profile Joined November 2010
794 Posts
March 02 2021 06:44 GMT
#18
I have to be the one to apologise here my friends, it was really my idea to make a post about this. I encouraged Scan to do it and he was busy at the time testing out maps for ASL and engaging with his viewers on Twitch, so I volunteered to make a post about it on TL and Reddit, and I also spammed a few discords.

I know Scan has a lot of fans, and figured some people might be interested in his guide pack. Sorry I didn't give too much thought about his tutorial videos being in Korean. I figured some valuable insights could still be gleaned from them, similar to watching replays.
https://www.twitch.tv/TeamThinkQuickTTV *** https://trovo.live/TeamThinkQuickTTV *** https://play.afreecatv.com/axtqttv
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-02 07:07:44
March 02 2021 07:05 GMT
#19
On March 02 2021 15:20 Avi-Love wrote:
So I'm not allowed to question Scan in a thread dedicated to a Scan guide/ video pack (that also violates TL policies)? The guy cares so little about the foreign fans that he won't even translate or add subtitles to his pack, but still expects foreigners to buy it. Seems to me that this would in fact be the ideal place to discuss such a thing!

Furthermore, I disagree strongly with you having done great things, in fact I think more often than not you're only looking out for yourself, which is why you cheated several times. Which is why you decided to ignore a boycott of a Chinese tournament that had Savior in it, and which is why you continuously went into foreign twitch channels to say "gg" and then advertise your own stream. It's not like your transgressions are all in the past, you continue to act selfish and without morals. After 10 years of such behaviour, the character of a man is quite clear.


first off, I'll recognize that saying no discussion is bad and that prohibiting it actually only helps scan. so yeah, my bad.

You are of course free to oppose the idea of a korean language guide being sold on TL, I'm fine with that considering that as tQ said it was more him advertising it and as far as TL's advertising policy itself goes, we don't have a strict no advertising policy, its very case by case and generally speaking good community members(in this case tQ and scan) tend to get a pass on this as long as its relevant to our community.

that being said, the argument of scan being a valuable member of our community or not is not relevant to this thread.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Avi-Love
Profile Joined November 2003
Denmark423 Posts
March 02 2021 07:10 GMT
#20
So your argument is that the rule doesn't apply to scan because he's a "good community member", but whether he actually is or isn't a good community member isn't relevant to this thread? That seems insanely contradictory to me. Especially considering he was actually caught cheating in a TL event (one of several times).
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
March 02 2021 07:26 GMT
#21
you're saying that his contributions to the strategy forums are worth nothing? oh the gall of advertising your stream in someone else's stream, god forbid he want viewers. I haven't heard much in terms of scan and cheating since at least 2011 and I know he was banned from TSL2, the only other thing would be the banning of scan from TLS/TLC but mostly because he wasn't a foreigner.

I'm not the one stuck on things he did a full decade ago.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Avi-Love
Profile Joined November 2003
Denmark423 Posts
March 02 2021 07:46 GMT
#22
I notice you just completely skipped the part about condoning the savior tournament? The guy that literally destroyed progaming, I guess his "contributions" in the strategy section makes up for all of the shitty things he did? What about the THOUSANDS of dollars he won in foreign tournaments, you don't think those should "make up" for any strategy forum posts? You're being incredibly naive. His behaviour has consistently been that of a scumbag with shitty morals, apologizing for one of the shitty things he did (cheating in TSL etc) doesn't mean anything when he continues to do scummy things -- even if you consider his newer transgressions *less* shitty. And do you genuinely believe it's cool for someone to literally join a twitch stream just to try and steal their viewers? I think that's abhorrent.

But I mean he's still a tier above Shinee in my book, so things *could* be worse.
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-02 07:49:53
March 02 2021 07:47 GMT
#23
On March 02 2021 15:20 Avi-Love wrote:
So I'm not allowed to question Scan in a thread dedicated to a Scan guide/ video pack (that also violates TL policies)? The guy cares so little about the foreign fans that he won't even translate or add subtitles to his pack, but still expects foreigners to buy it. Seems to me that this would in fact be the ideal place to discuss such a thing!

Furthermore, I disagree strongly with you having done great things, in fact I think more often than not you're only looking out for yourself, which is why you cheated several times. Which is why you decided to ignore a boycott of a Chinese tournament that had Savior in it, and which is why you continuously went into foreign twitch channels to say "gg" and then advertise your own stream. It's not like your transgressions are all in the past, you continue to act selfish and without morals. After 10 years of such behaviour, the character of a man is quite clear.


I tried not to continue replying about your post, but I have to.

Cheated and involved into drama where LRM Team, JoeKim's monopoly of running tournaments. I've explained about that story long ago. I made a mistake, I should have not done that and I stopped contacting them. This gave me a lesson how I should be in the future.

Chinese tournaments were always huge, I got invited. I'm just an acquaintance with Savior and nothing more. There were not many tournaments host and I couldn't qualify for ASL group stage(ASL S1~4), and I need money to continue living my life. I get that you hate Savior about match-fixing scandal/story, and I hate it too. I had a goal to become a pro before, and I'm still looking forward to succeed something still.

Typing out "gg" is an actual thing in Korean game culture. If you don't type gg, you'll pretty much get excluded any events in Korea. And guess what? foreigners are the ones picking a fight saying like "noob, i beat you ez, etc" And I can't correct them what they are saying then? Have you ever seen me ragequit the game because i simply lost a game by one lucky move by the opponent? I always type gg. You've been active on foreign scene more than I've done so you know how bad and toxic they are.

Since you mentioned about advertisement of stream, I don't see any problem about it. And let's get on the point. How about Artosis that he did 2 weeks ago? How about other streamers like LoL, PUBG, or any other popular games having their ID names like AFTV_NAME, TWITCHTV_NAME, YouTube_NAME and so on? I guess they are the bad guys, ^^.

You talk like I act selfish, but I'm not and I know about morals than how you are seeing me.
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LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-02 07:49:19
March 02 2021 07:49 GMT
#24
double posted. deleted.
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LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-02 08:02:42
March 02 2021 08:00 GMT
#25
On March 02 2021 16:46 Avi-Love wrote:
I notice you just completely skipped the part about condoning the savior tournament? The guy that literally destroyed progaming, I guess his "contributions" in the strategy section makes up for all of the shitty things he did? What about the THOUSANDS of dollars he won in foreign tournaments, you don't think those should "make up" for any strategy forum posts? You're being incredibly naive. His behaviour has consistently been that of a scumbag with shitty morals, apologizing for one of the shitty things he did (cheating in TSL etc) doesn't mean anything when he continues to do scummy things -- even if you consider his newer transgressions *less* shitty. And do you genuinely believe it's cool for someone to literally join a twitch stream just to try and steal their viewers? I think that's abhorrent.

But I mean he's still a tier above Shinee in my book, so things *could* be worse.


Your behavior is totally shit and sound like a scumbag. Stop justifying you're right you don't sound smart anymore.. IDK what kind of educations you've got, you just need to stop your action.

If you think $12 is too much, just fuck off. don't buy it, don't look at it. I can't respect you anymore because I start seeing you are making things up.

User was warned for this post
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Avi-Love
Profile Joined November 2003
Denmark423 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-02 08:22:42
March 02 2021 08:13 GMT
#26
So you happily (and openly) admit that you cheated in TSL, that you cheated in regards to LRM/JoeKim, that you participated in a chinese tournament where ALL PROGAMERS DECIDED TO BOYCOTT IT, and lastly you admit to openly trying to steal viewers by showing up in people's twitch chat (I know you were banned/kicked a few times, guess that didn't stop you or make you think about your actions eh?). I think that just about settles it then. Tell me though, how did the Korean community react to you and shinee ignoring that boycott? Let's be honest about it right?

And I mean the personal insults seem kind of questionable, clearly my morals and integrity are both superior to yours, as only one of us has committed all of the transgressions that you just admitted to doing -- and it sure as shit wasn't me. Also if you're that interested in my life, I can tell you I have about ~470 ECTS worth of university credits, but I don't really see what the relevance is. As for pricing, I think most capitalistic systems are based on supply/demand, I'll be brutally honest with you and tell you that even if your video guides were in English and free, I would still not be interested.

Edit: Lastly, I actually think you had a golden opportunity in this thread to at least redeem yourself a bit upon being confronted with the fact that it's all in Korean; if you had just shown a tiny amount of goodwill or interest in adding some English voice-over, subtitles or even some bullet points to your videos, it would've shown you cared about the English speaking viewers. But unfortunately you decided to prove me right in my assertions by blatantly disregarding the criticism and implying people should happily buy it and just simply learn from watching.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-02 08:40:40
March 02 2021 08:39 GMT
#27
On March 02 2021 16:46 Avi-Love wrote:
I notice you just completely skipped the part about condoning the savior tournament? The guy that literally destroyed progaming, I guess his "contributions" in the strategy section makes up for all of the shitty things he did? What about the THOUSANDS of dollars he won in foreign tournaments, you don't think those should "make up" for any strategy forum posts? You're being incredibly naive. His behaviour has consistently been that of a scumbag with shitty morals, apologizing for one of the shitty things he did (cheating in TSL etc) doesn't mean anything when he continues to do scummy things -- even if you consider his newer transgressions *less* shitty. And do you genuinely believe it's cool for someone to literally join a twitch stream just to try and steal their viewers? I think that's abhorrent.

But I mean he's still a tier above Shinee in my book, so things *could* be worse.


I hate mjy as much as you do, if not more, I'm not going to defend what scan did on that part.

Originally I assumed that they were banned from all KCM events because there was some news about KCM banning them whether it was actually true or just a temporary ban I'm not actually sure, but considering other than scan and shinee there was beast and sexy in the tournament and beast has been on KCM challenger since that and also beast was seen as recently as in ASTL in the same team as larva and bisu, clearly not much was thought about it.

scan himself has been on ASL qualifiers so clearly afreeca didn't care either.

as far as advertising streams go, people have free will like if scan advertised his stream on another person's stream thats not really stealing viewers, they can switch streams if they like, honestly you're being unnecessarily hysterical on this point.

and honestly, if he was allowed to compete in a foreigner tournament then thats on the organizer, yeah that one just sucks but can't blame scan for it, like what, deny yourself easy money? if he smurfed like back in the vTv/LRM/Joekim days then yeah I get you, but if he competed and won as scan no smurfing then nothing wrong with that.

at least now you've come to actually criticizing the product itself.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-02 09:02:33
March 02 2021 09:02 GMT
#28
I do think with that I'll close the thread, there is some merit in waiting for an english language guide down the line but as it stands I actually don't see people on TL at least buying the pack.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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