EPT2020 Democratic Nominees - Page 60
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8991 Posts
On March 04 2020 22:56 NewSunshine wrote: It's pretty appalling. We've practically built an industry around obfuscating our own elections and turning it into an incomprehensible black box. Then the superdelegates/electoral college/whatever swoop in, pick whatever, and pretend they interpreted the whole mess. Nobody knows wtf is going on. I would rather be disappointed that Biden takes it in the end and get on with my life. But I can't, because there's no structure keeping track of this stuff, so we maybe don't really know yet. Political party seems unable (I mean they are able, just unwilling) to have actual, understable election. It's not just the US to, the last canadian conservative party leadership race had a 13 round preferential system ballot where when your first choice lost, your vote when to the next person on the ballot, but they only had a portion of the point of a full vote and on top of this there was a weird thing where vote where given different number of point depending on the county they were in and you could have a decimal number of points allocated to your vote. In the end everyone had absolutly no way of actually knowing how many people voted for a candidate. I'm not sure they even told how many person had actually voted. And for some reason they needed to present every round one by one, and one guy led for 12 round then lost on the last one by 1%. But what I can't understand to save my life is how every news outlett out there seems to have differents results/ % of vote counted. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12533 Posts
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Sent.
Poland9331 Posts
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Nouar
France3270 Posts
(Source everywhere on the website of your choice) | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
Done by a gold league player. He won 18 delegates with that. His biggest performance was in American Samoa, and he didn’t even pick up all 6, only 5 out of 6 of their delegates. But he can take consolation that he made geographical wins in Aspen, Colorado and Napa County, CA. He has now dropped out of the race! | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27343 Posts
On March 05 2020 00:43 Sent. wrote: Those attempts to present the left as Jedis and the right as Siths remind me of the quote someone brought up in the main thread few months ago. It was something like "the left sees the right as evil and the right sees the left as stupid" (or naive, I don't remember). Kids on reddit who make these comparisons unironically are becoming the very thing they swore to destroy, as only a Sith deals in absolutes. Isn’t that phrase inherently contradictory when Obi-Wan says it? | ||
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semantics
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On March 05 2020 00:48 semantics wrote: Well i felt that Bloomberg mostly held Biden back, the exit polling demographics saw a lot of overlap with those who actually voted for Bloomberg being the same demographics as those who voted for Biden. If Warren would drop out we can finally get down to just a Biden or Sanders choice and people will stop the conspiracy crap. "Conspiracy crap" and yet her super pac is supporting her through next week and then stopping. 1. Warren tried calling Bernie sexist 2. Warren runs out of money 3. Warren gets super pacs and attacks Bernie 4. Warren super pac will support Warren until next week, then stop | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8991 Posts
On March 05 2020 00:47 Wombat_NI wrote: Isn’t that phrase inherently contradictory when Obi-Wan says it? It depend on your point of view apparently | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8991 Posts
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/03/03/super-tuesday-live-updates/#link-G734JOJXKFHO7LPYNF6L46PZ3E | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12533 Posts
On March 05 2020 00:43 Sent. wrote: Those attempts to present the left as Jedis and the right as Siths remind me of the quote someone brought up in the main thread few months ago. It was something like "the left sees the right as evil and the right sees the left as stupid" (or naive, I don't remember). Kids on reddit who make these comparisons unironically are becoming the very thing they swore to destroy, as only a Sith deals in absolutes. All politics include morality and assigning good and evil. This specific bit is obviously projection, as liberalism and leftism have an approach that includes rationality while anything rightward of liberalism couldn't care less about being rational, but even the rational ideologies include moral axioms; for example you cannot demonstrate rationally that it's better to be rational than irrational, it's just something that is part of our moral framework. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24341 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22566 Posts
On March 05 2020 00:53 NewSunshine wrote: What do you think the odds are Warren won't endorse Bernie?This could be bad. Warren probably should've dropped to endorse Bernie sooner, but if there's any chance of enacting her goal of taking power away from billionaires, she needs to get behind Bernie now. Otherwise we get Biden, and nothing much changes. They call Joe a socialist commie, over 4-8 years in which nothing much changes, and we're back here, only even closer to ecological disaster and another manufactured market crash benefiting billionaires. Among other American classics. I'm guessing she won't. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27343 Posts
But it’s an inherently absolutist statement! Unless Obi-Wan is secretly a... Good to know the Warren team are assessing things moving forwards. I mean what actually needs assessed is beyond me, seems patently obvious. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9331 Posts
On March 05 2020 00:47 Wombat_NI wrote: Isn’t that phrase inherently contradictory when Obi-Wan says it? It is. Ironic. | ||
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pmh
1416 Posts
Another 4 years of trump,gg no re. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On March 05 2020 01:02 Gorsameth wrote: What do you think the odds are Warren won't endorse Bernie? I'm guessing she won't. I don't know. I also just realized I assumed Joe would win in my hypothetical. There's still plenty of room to be disappointed. | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8991 Posts
On March 05 2020 01:02 GreenHorizons wrote: Bloomberg endorsed Biden after dropping out. Bright side is that now Warren's endorsement can be choreographed better for maximum impact, but still risks Obama coming in and shutting down progressives altogether. I don't think Obama will come out publicly before the convention, although apparently him and Harry Reid made a few phone call to help Biden to get his flux of endorsement. | ||
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