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If this thread turns into a USPMT 2.0, we will not hesitate to shut it down. Do not even bother posting if all you're going to do is shit on the Democratic candidates while adding nothing of value.

Rules:
- Don't post meaningless one-liners.
- Don't turn this into a X doesn't stand a chance against Trump debate.
- Sources MUST have a supporting comment that summarizes the source beforehand.
- Do NOT turn this thread into a Republicans vs. Democrats shit-storm.

This thread will be heavily moderated. Expect the same kind of strictness as the USPMT.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
February 25 2020 18:02 GMT
#761
On February 25 2020 20:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Tonight is a hugely important Democratic debate in South Carolina, which can set some serious momentum for both the SC primary (this Saturday) and for Super Tuesday (a week from today, March 3rd, which is the day with the most state primaries: Alabama, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, and Virginia).

Some different strategies that tonight's candidates may consider:
1. All-out attack on the clear frontrunner: Bernie Sanders;
2. Continuing to preemptively attack the looming Super Tuesday threat of Mike Bloomberg, like what we saw last debate;
3. Oddly enough, focusing on Joe Biden for once, since he's currently the SC frontrunner (although he's been dropping and Sanders has been slowly catching up);
4. Those who aren't polling well with the black community (e.g., Buttigieg, Klobuchar) are also likely to go into super-tryhard-i-love-black-people mode;
5. If Sanders can successfully play defense for the evening, he should be just fine going into SC and Super Tuesday. He's polling consistently well in all those states, and his lead would likely increase.


I'm stressed out of my god damn mind. And I'll be watching it with Warren supporters. If Warren ends up deciding to attack Bernie, I'm gonna lose my mind.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24455 Posts
February 26 2020 00:12 GMT
#762
On February 26 2020 03:02 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2020 20:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Tonight is a hugely important Democratic debate in South Carolina, which can set some serious momentum for both the SC primary (this Saturday) and for Super Tuesday (a week from today, March 3rd, which is the day with the most state primaries: Alabama, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, and Virginia).

Some different strategies that tonight's candidates may consider:
1. All-out attack on the clear frontrunner: Bernie Sanders;
2. Continuing to preemptively attack the looming Super Tuesday threat of Mike Bloomberg, like what we saw last debate;
3. Oddly enough, focusing on Joe Biden for once, since he's currently the SC frontrunner (although he's been dropping and Sanders has been slowly catching up);
4. Those who aren't polling well with the black community (e.g., Buttigieg, Klobuchar) are also likely to go into super-tryhard-i-love-black-people mode;
5. If Sanders can successfully play defense for the evening, he should be just fine going into SC and Super Tuesday. He's polling consistently well in all those states, and his lead would likely increase.


I'm stressed out of my god damn mind. And I'll be watching it with Warren supporters. If Warren ends up deciding to attack Bernie, I'm gonna lose my mind.


I get the impression she's going to try to walk the line of distinguishing herself but it will go sour when she repeats her line about using markets as if Bernie/social democracy (or socialism for that matter) won't.

I don't think she's stupid enough to not know that she is lying.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46626 Posts
February 26 2020 00:15 GMT
#763
On February 26 2020 03:02 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2020 20:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Tonight is a hugely important Democratic debate in South Carolina, which can set some serious momentum for both the SC primary (this Saturday) and for Super Tuesday (a week from today, March 3rd, which is the day with the most state primaries: Alabama, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, and Virginia).

Some different strategies that tonight's candidates may consider:
1. All-out attack on the clear frontrunner: Bernie Sanders;
2. Continuing to preemptively attack the looming Super Tuesday threat of Mike Bloomberg, like what we saw last debate;
3. Oddly enough, focusing on Joe Biden for once, since he's currently the SC frontrunner (although he's been dropping and Sanders has been slowly catching up);
4. Those who aren't polling well with the black community (e.g., Buttigieg, Klobuchar) are also likely to go into super-tryhard-i-love-black-people mode;
5. If Sanders can successfully play defense for the evening, he should be just fine going into SC and Super Tuesday. He's polling consistently well in all those states, and his lead would likely increase.


I'm stressed out of my god damn mind. And I'll be watching it with Warren supporters. If Warren ends up deciding to attack Bernie, I'm gonna lose my mind.


That would be really disappointing, and Warren can absolutely kiss her (already unlikely) chance of a resurgence if she does that. That move didn't make her any friends, didn't win her any votes.

Debate is starting soon, streamed on this YouTube channel:



"CBS News hosts the 10th Democratic presidential primary debate on Feb. 25 from 8 p.m. to 10 p.m. ET in Charleston, South Carolina, just days ahead of the state's primary on Feb. 29.
The candidates who qualified are former Vice President Joe Biden, former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg, former South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg, Minnesota Senator Amy Klobuchar, Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, billionaire investor Tom Steyer and Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren."
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-26 01:09:51
February 26 2020 01:02 GMT
#764
I expect Sanders will get a lot of ankle biting this debate

edit:yup 5 min in Bloomberg, Warren, Buttigieg already got their shots in on Bernie
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46626 Posts
February 26 2020 01:09 GMT
#765
On February 26 2020 10:02 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I expect Sanders will get a lot of ankle biting this debate

yup 5 min in Bloomberg, Warren, Buttigieg already got their shots


And Steyer too; spot on with the ankle biting.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-26 01:20:20
February 26 2020 01:12 GMT
#766
Ooh, Bernie vs. the world today. Sounds like fun.

Edit: Rofl, Warren going for the kill against Bloomer again today. Savage yet again.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24455 Posts
February 26 2020 01:27 GMT
#767
Bernie looks like the guy focused on issues that matter to everyday people and everyone else looks like a jackass so far imo
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 26 2020 01:35 GMT
#768
On February 26 2020 10:27 GreenHorizons wrote:
Bernie looks like the guy focused on issues that matter to everyday people and everyone else looks like a jackass so far imo

So far, I think you're right. Wtf is this debate.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46626 Posts
February 26 2020 01:36 GMT
#769
Everyone is just mudslinging and yelling over everyone else. Holy crap. Half an hour in and I currently feel like the biggest losers of the debate are the viewers.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
February 26 2020 01:37 GMT
#770
Terrible moderation, they need to cut mics
Neosteel Enthusiast
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 26 2020 01:38 GMT
#771
Once upon a time, Trump responded to a booing crowd by saying, "those folks booing in the crowd? that's [opponent]'s donors and special interests." Today especially, I have to say that that's the best response I've ever heard to having a tough crowd in a situation like this.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24455 Posts
February 26 2020 01:41 GMT
#772
On February 26 2020 10:38 LegalLord wrote:
Once upon a time, Trump responded to a booing crowd by saying, "those folks booing in the crowd? that's [opponent]'s donors and special interests." Today especially, I have to say that that's the best response I've ever heard to having a tough crowd in a situation like this.


"I see Bloomberg has been handing out some of his $150 bribes to in person audiences too" would typically not work, but in this shit show debate it would have come out as THE zinger and "fact checking" it would only make Bloomberg look worse.

Would have been a show stopper if Warren said it while they were booing Bernie.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-26 01:46:48
February 26 2020 01:45 GMT
#773
Did Biden say US gun violence killed 150 million people?

Croud really feeling the Bloom lol
Neosteel Enthusiast
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46626 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-26 01:52:06
February 26 2020 01:51 GMT
#774
On February 26 2020 10:45 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Did Biden say US gun violence killed 150 million people?


Yup lmao. Apparently half the country was recently murdered

I assume he meant 150 thousand over a bunch of years.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
February 26 2020 02:07 GMT
#775
Will Buttigieg ever get a question where he has to defend himself? He got away easy last debate and same thing now.
Neosteel Enthusiast
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11607 Posts
February 26 2020 02:08 GMT
#776
re: Biden.
I don't understand the issue with gentrification- all it is people movie into older neighbourhoods that are worn down, rolling up their sleeves and improving the property that they bought. By virtue of them improving the property, the value of the property and those around it goes up. You can literally see certain areas get revitalizes as people move in, ready to buy fixer-uppers, businesses move in, etc. How are you going to stop that? Prevent reno's? And why would you want to? These are people that just like improving the property they bought. The problem is housing supply, not that people are improving houses already in existence.
ModeratorWake me up when Trump's term is finished. Slava Ukraini.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46626 Posts
February 26 2020 02:10 GMT
#777
Definition of "That Escalated Quickly":
Moderator: Tell us about your decision to ban trans fats and sugary drinks in New York City.
Bloomberg: I'm the reason why Europe and the Middle East banned smoking, also we're completely defenseless to pandemics and the stock market is crashing right this second.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24455 Posts
February 26 2020 02:22 GMT
#778
Pete is like half a step away from stolen valor and bragging about it. I'm not a fan of US military forces, but what a rat.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9254 Posts
February 26 2020 02:25 GMT
#779
On February 26 2020 11:08 Falling wrote:
re: Biden.
I don't understand the issue with gentrification- all it is people movie into older neighbourhoods that are worn down, rolling up their sleeves and improving the property that they bought. By virtue of them improving the property, the value of the property and those around it goes up. You can literally see certain areas get revitalizes as people move in, ready to buy fixer-uppers, businesses move in, etc. How are you going to stop that? Prevent reno's? And why would you want to? These are people that just like improving the property they bought. The problem is housing supply, not that people are improving houses already in existence.

The main issues with gentrification are the loss of affordable housing and increase in homelessness (see San Francisco). It's not all bad as you pointed out and it doesn't need to be stopped per se, it's just one of those things where legislation is slow to catch up with the downsides of a societal change. Some proposed solutions are taxing empty properties and relaxing zoning laws.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-26 02:31:34
February 26 2020 02:31 GMT
#780
' No fly zone, a zone you can't fly through' - Biden 2020
Neosteel Enthusiast
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