EPTOn July 17 2018 12:27 Pentay wrote:
I only managed to get it overturned by going through a much different account channel than the forum GMs channel where I was flat out denied with the shortest, one sentence paragraph. But here it is.
Greetings,
This account has been suspended from the Blizzard Forums for a violation of the Code of Conduct: https://battle.net/forums/code-of-conduct/
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Date actioned: Wed Jul 04 09:04:03 GMT 2018
Action ending: Fri Aug 03 09:04:03 GMT 2018
Reported post: Inappropriate post
30 Day Suspension - Final Warning due to 4 ignored warnings in the past 3 months
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Author: Pentay
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Simply put: HotS is a scam.
Reply: #1
Date: 03-Jul-2018 02:42:15
Now before anybody panics and says that it’s not because you enjoy it, consider the fact that most people enjoy scams until they realize it’s a scam and that they were deceived or pressured.
Let’s just look at this recent update. It all started with the IGN ad. 6 clickbaits why you should play hots RIGHT NOW. Payed for by blizzard. A day later, Raynor rework is announced. Then the next flashy bundle is revealed.
Translation: noobies are baited into checking out the game. The community is electrified by a long demanded update. Hype drowns the complaint threads. Noobies install and get acquainted with the game. Mega flashy skins are revealed. An environment of excitement is crafted for some short term sales.
This has been the business model since 2.0. It’s only just become more refined with slower hero releases (which also suits dev team).
Matchmaking issues have never been addressed. Ladder rules have changed frequently and are changing again but still have no impact on what the actual matchmaker does.
Many people have pointed out that the cause of toxicity is the matchmaker. The matchmaker and the silence system are also part of the business model.
If you get silenced, you’re encouraged by support staff to make a smurf. If you didn’t get the thought yourself, GMs will actually tell you to do so. It’s going to cause the purchasing of OP heroes or heroes much stronger than the free rotation. It’s going to cause stim pack purchase.
Everything is hidden. Blizzard is taking a year to figure out how and what stats to show you that reveal where you match up with teammates and opponents. They have their own role system on a chalk board for all their hero design but we still have no role update. They have mmr stats but we have no revealed stats. The fanboys tell you how the system works, not how it could be working. The truth is, only people at blizzard actually know how it works.
The report system didn’t solve any toxicity problems. What does it actually create? An illusion of control over toxicity to appease the complainers, and a smurf revenue stream. People have the audacity to accept the pandering from automated emails that give no information except the statement that their reports do something. All those people want is the illusion. All blizzard wants is the money.
If people actually want a good game, they would boycott hots. But blizzard has plenty of new players to bait, which is what the driving force of content creation is. So people indirectly boycott by changing games because the fight isn’t worth it. The people that stay realize fighting is pointless because the game will always cater to new fans.
That’s why the game has boiled down to QM players and the propped up pro scene. And just another hint of the scam, viewers are now bribed to view for loot. There’s no interest in the game, so interest is injected with skins, loot, and payed promotions.
All the players actually ask for is a fair matchmaker. That’s all gamers actually want. If you want free stuff, hype, a community of memes and personas, and other junk, you probably argued for changes based on inconveniences which have damaged the game.
There’s still good in them. There’s still rational balance and design choices being made to try and hone the shape and spirit of the game. The nectar of sales have corrupted many of these environments starting with Li-Ming, peaking with Tracer, and settling somewhere in between the two for just about every popular assassin where sales could be maximized via inflated stats. Sometimes a hero wants to be felt to have a big impact on the game, which is a sound argument and decision. It wouldn’t make sense for Ragnaros or Kel’Thuzad to have meek stats, but some heroes are just released flat out broken and also happen to generate sales based on their marketability like Genji.
I don’t know what we should be asking for besides a subscription plan for balanced, competitive games that don’t waste our time. There’s so much greed lurking in the F2P model, and it’s got to stop or the community will eventually catch on, and so many bridges will have been burned that it’s too late. Most of the people that uninstall are saddened by how corrupt blizzard has become, so I believe there’s still room for them (you guys at blizzard) to make amends.
[Edited By Pentay]
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Now just as an aside, I would change some finer points of the post in hindsight. For example, I think some people want more detailed emails as to what their reports did and not just for illusion. I think many players are playing the TOS rather than hots, but that’s another issue.
Regardless, as you can see, there was no offensive language of any kind. Why it’s considered inappropriate is beyond me. In fact, the person that did overturn my suspension said that while it does critique blizzard negatively, there’s nothing inappropriate with the post.
I could also expand heavily on all my points made, but the 5000 word limit binds me up.
I only managed to get it overturned by going through a much different account channel than the forum GMs channel where I was flat out denied with the shortest, one sentence paragraph. But here it is.
Greetings,
This account has been suspended from the Blizzard Forums for a violation of the Code of Conduct: https://battle.net/forums/code-of-conduct/
Reason: Other
Date actioned: Wed Jul 04 09:04:03 GMT 2018
Action ending: Fri Aug 03 09:04:03 GMT 2018
Reported post: Inappropriate post
30 Day Suspension - Final Warning due to 4 ignored warnings in the past 3 months
--
Author: Pentay
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Simply put: HotS is a scam.
Reply: #1
Date: 03-Jul-2018 02:42:15
Now before anybody panics and says that it’s not because you enjoy it, consider the fact that most people enjoy scams until they realize it’s a scam and that they were deceived or pressured.
Let’s just look at this recent update. It all started with the IGN ad. 6 clickbaits why you should play hots RIGHT NOW. Payed for by blizzard. A day later, Raynor rework is announced. Then the next flashy bundle is revealed.
Translation: noobies are baited into checking out the game. The community is electrified by a long demanded update. Hype drowns the complaint threads. Noobies install and get acquainted with the game. Mega flashy skins are revealed. An environment of excitement is crafted for some short term sales.
This has been the business model since 2.0. It’s only just become more refined with slower hero releases (which also suits dev team).
Matchmaking issues have never been addressed. Ladder rules have changed frequently and are changing again but still have no impact on what the actual matchmaker does.
Many people have pointed out that the cause of toxicity is the matchmaker. The matchmaker and the silence system are also part of the business model.
If you get silenced, you’re encouraged by support staff to make a smurf. If you didn’t get the thought yourself, GMs will actually tell you to do so. It’s going to cause the purchasing of OP heroes or heroes much stronger than the free rotation. It’s going to cause stim pack purchase.
Everything is hidden. Blizzard is taking a year to figure out how and what stats to show you that reveal where you match up with teammates and opponents. They have their own role system on a chalk board for all their hero design but we still have no role update. They have mmr stats but we have no revealed stats. The fanboys tell you how the system works, not how it could be working. The truth is, only people at blizzard actually know how it works.
The report system didn’t solve any toxicity problems. What does it actually create? An illusion of control over toxicity to appease the complainers, and a smurf revenue stream. People have the audacity to accept the pandering from automated emails that give no information except the statement that their reports do something. All those people want is the illusion. All blizzard wants is the money.
If people actually want a good game, they would boycott hots. But blizzard has plenty of new players to bait, which is what the driving force of content creation is. So people indirectly boycott by changing games because the fight isn’t worth it. The people that stay realize fighting is pointless because the game will always cater to new fans.
That’s why the game has boiled down to QM players and the propped up pro scene. And just another hint of the scam, viewers are now bribed to view for loot. There’s no interest in the game, so interest is injected with skins, loot, and payed promotions.
All the players actually ask for is a fair matchmaker. That’s all gamers actually want. If you want free stuff, hype, a community of memes and personas, and other junk, you probably argued for changes based on inconveniences which have damaged the game.
There’s still good in them. There’s still rational balance and design choices being made to try and hone the shape and spirit of the game. The nectar of sales have corrupted many of these environments starting with Li-Ming, peaking with Tracer, and settling somewhere in between the two for just about every popular assassin where sales could be maximized via inflated stats. Sometimes a hero wants to be felt to have a big impact on the game, which is a sound argument and decision. It wouldn’t make sense for Ragnaros or Kel’Thuzad to have meek stats, but some heroes are just released flat out broken and also happen to generate sales based on their marketability like Genji.
I don’t know what we should be asking for besides a subscription plan for balanced, competitive games that don’t waste our time. There’s so much greed lurking in the F2P model, and it’s got to stop or the community will eventually catch on, and so many bridges will have been burned that it’s too late. Most of the people that uninstall are saddened by how corrupt blizzard has become, so I believe there’s still room for them (you guys at blizzard) to make amends.
[Edited By Pentay]
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Now just as an aside, I would change some finer points of the post in hindsight. For example, I think some people want more detailed emails as to what their reports did and not just for illusion. I think many players are playing the TOS rather than hots, but that’s another issue.
Regardless, as you can see, there was no offensive language of any kind. Why it’s considered inappropriate is beyond me. In fact, the person that did overturn my suspension said that while it does critique blizzard negatively, there’s nothing inappropriate with the post.
I could also expand heavily on all my points made, but the 5000 word limit binds me up.
Whatever you posted here, none of it is a 'scam'. HOTS is Blizzard's product, & they can do whatever they want with it as long as they are not breaking the laws. You can of course judge them as greedy, not good to their customers, etc.
You only got banned from Blizzard's official forum; they could make it a lot worse for you mate if they wanted. Actually, if Blizzard cared enough, they could charge the person who is spamming this in public forums with defamatory charges and i think it would have quite some credibility to it lawfully.
Heck, I never even played HOTS, but I couldn't help but reply on this thread.
