Maphackers in SC2 - Let's talk About it - Page 3

On April 04 2017 20:29 AxiomBlurr wrote:
Yes we can talk about it...

1) I am convinced there are hacks for the present iteration of SC2.

2) My estimation (by time spent on the ladder) is that the percentage of players hacking in the US region is no larger than 1% of the total players in the region. I lived in Korea for most of HoTS and I estimate the percentage hacking there was 0.1 %. EU I have no idea...

3) The example you show could be coincidence, it could be hacks - this is not conclusive evidence.
WHICH leads to...

4) Avilo here is what the community, the casters, players, the tournament admins and the fans of the game in general, need from you to ever truly acknowledge and/or trust a single word you post or say:

A) "I avilo, have accused incorrectly too many players of hacking."

B) "I avilo, have too often in the past refused to own up to my own mistakes and failures."

C) "I avilo, have never been able to compete at the highest levels in SC2 and am predictable in my playstyle. " (This is important as 1 - the vast majority of players you have accused of hacking in the past, KNOW HOW YOU PLAY. 2 - Your lack of humility in stating your arguments is detrimental to the credibility of your stance).

D) "I avilo, have been disrespectful towards others players and dismissed their skills at the game too often."

E) "I avilo, will in the future try to be more honest and respectful. I will aim to conduct myself in a more adult manner with the community, the casters, the tournament admins and the fans of the game in general."

F) "I avilo, will stop crying wolf."

G) "I avilo am not special and thus am subject to the same rules and guidelines as participants in any given tournament."


Until you testify to this or something like it, no one of any rational/impartial standing will ever take you seriously. It is sad to see you throw away what potential you might have because you cannot (have not so far) owned up to this.

I am sorry, this is just the truth.

Good luck and Have Fun.

On April 04 2017 14:48 a person, doesn't matter who, wrote:
Hi guys, it's about time the community has a discussion about this and gets a dialogue going with Blizzard about it as well.

For one reason or another it became taboo to talk about hackers or even fathom that they exist still on StarCraft 2. This needs to change.

[this paragraph is irrelevant to the topic]

[mostly irrelevant stuff got cut here] Back in Brood War it was the opposite - people called out hackers all the time and there were even many known Brood War players that people thought would never EVER hack that got caught hacking.

An example of [disregarding the issue of hacking] is Pig during the most recent WCS qualifiers making claims that there are no maphacks, as well as personalities in the scene like Nathanias that keep perpetuating that there are no working maphacks for SC2 which is honestly not the case.

Can we get a dialogue going in the community here and with Blizzard [don't make ad hominem arguments]? Honestly keeping the integrity of SC2 tourneys and ladder is pretty important for the game to stay alive and grow more.

[an example that isn't needed, no matter if accurate or not]

Is this going to be addressed by Blizzard at all? Are we all going to pretend it's not going on for even longer? Does it take the Korean SC2 community pro players complaining about it again for anything to be done about it?

[a statement I don't know if true or not, but it isn't necessary for this post]

As a community there needs to be a discussion about this. No more pretending it's not going on, and that it's become more prevalent.

On April 04 2017 14:48 avilo wrote:
People may have most recently seen the drama with me playing versus Nero/Retribution/Spectrum + whatever other aliases he goes by in WCS, and how i ended up getting banned and not allowed another chance at the same qualifier, despite me being the one that is screwed over by the maphacker.

On April 05 2017 04:08 LtCalley wrote:
there are MOST DEFINITELY STILL MAPHACKERS. played against one the other day. zerg that had no vision of any of my structures the entire game, never used his overlords to scout, and had his units in position to defend my pushes every time

The person in the clip above is 100% utilizing a production tab hack + maphack to do what he did in the clip.