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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
March 21 2007 15:31 GMT
#641
why is that bad form?
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
March 21 2007 15:31 GMT
#642
are you people inept?

Bey banned a user who was on thin ice. It may have been unjust, but chibi was all ready stepping on toes, he should have tread lightly. It may have been instigated by a moment of anger from bey, but bey's human. Get over it.

Baal on the other hand goes out of his way to insult the only important members of tl.net's community - the mods. He does not do this once or twice, but repeatedly throughout the whole thread. He makes no effort to express his feelings in an environment that is all ready under high stress. The amount of people bashing the mods (myself included) when they do this huge and rewardless job must be infuriating. Baal has acting like a jackass and got temp-banned for it. When baal has a chance to cool down and behave appriopriately, he will be back. This will also in turn give the mods a chance to calm down as well. Baal is an arrogant bastard who flames people every chance he gets. How can you not see a temp-ban was warranted in this situation?
Happiness only real when shared.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27148 Posts
March 21 2007 15:31 GMT
#643
On March 22 2007 00:29 Last Romantic wrote:
well no the argument kwark and I are taking here is not that "baal should not have been banned", but rather "it was bad form to flame him before banning him, and he should have just been banned straight up"


Your right, it was. Im only human though, and sometimes it is going to happen.
ModeratorGodfather
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42651 Posts
March 21 2007 15:32 GMT
#644
On March 22 2007 00:28 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2007 00:18 Kwark wrote:
On March 22 2007 00:16 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On March 22 2007 00:14 Kwark wrote:
On March 21 2007 23:37 Manifesto7 wrote:
Fuck you. You are worth nothing at all, and know even less. You get up on this high horse like you are some kind of TL lorist pining for the old days, and then presume to tell the world about a subject and a process you know nothing about. The fact that you even comment on the quality of the forums when you yourself are responsible for lowering that quality is laughable.

The moderators on this site represent some of the smartest and most articulated people I have come across here. The level of discussion on this issue and all others would shame even the best of the general forum threads. They work hard and come up with fair results in order to make this a better place.

Get the fuck out baal. Seriously, don't come back. I would like to see your TL attitude stand at LP. Im tired of you coming here everytime you feel like you have to take a verbal dump. Do everybody a favour and just dont post.


And then you ban him for disrespect?
Unimpressed.

If you stayed aloof from the argument and he said what he said then fair enough.
But you engaged in shitslinging with him then banned him for giving as good as he got? Not right Mani.
It's an either or thing. If you want the ability to have flame wars, you abdicate the responsibilities of the Mod. You can't say "Get the fuck out baal" and then ban him for disrespect when he responds.

I know you're pissed off (your posting style gives it away) and I know you believe yourself to be in the right in this discussion. But neither of those gives you the right to tell baal to fuck off and then ban him for disrespect when he responds. I recommend you reconsider this when calmed down because this really doesn't show you in a decent light.


the difference is manifesto puts countless hours of straight-up work into this site, kwark. a moment of frustration from manifesto7 is the easiest thing in the world to overlook


I'd have to be mad to deny the huge contribution Mani puts into this website and a few posts ago I told baal to cool it. But does that give him the right to flame and then ban when they flame back? I think no.


baal attacked him and the mods, spammed, and acted like a retard. if that's not ban-worthy, I don't know what is.


My complaint was that Mani banned him after lowering himself to baals level. Last Romantic put it very succinctly with "he should have just temped him instead of flaming. And if he chose to flame, he shouldn't have temped him. Or at least he should have waited for someone else to do it."

Any other mod banning him would be far more respectable.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
March 21 2007 15:33 GMT
#645
Seeing as the mods are people who have elevated this forum to make it what it is, and baal is just a slightly amusing, yet mostly annoying character who calls people who argue with him full of shit once he's made up his mind...
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
March 21 2007 15:34 GMT
#646
Banning Baal was so obviously coming it was almost too obvious.
wtf was that signature
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10831 Posts
March 21 2007 15:34 GMT
#647
Fuck that, baal's a pretty big loser, and if I was a mod, my ban would've been accompanied by a photoshop of me shitting on his face.

No one owes baal anything, least of all Manifesto, and he wants to throw a "fuck you" before he bans a huge tool then he's certainly entitled to it.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
March 21 2007 15:34 GMT
#648
I am not understanding something here.

What is the problem with him replying to baal's attacks before he banned him?
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
March 21 2007 15:36 GMT
#649
On March 22 2007 00:34 BroOd wrote:
No one owes baal anything, least of all Manifesto, and he wants to throw a "fuck you" before he bans a huge tool then he's certainly entitled to it.


Of course no one owes Baal anything, though that doesn't necessarily mean he had to be banned either.
wtf was that signature
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10831 Posts
March 21 2007 15:37 GMT
#650
On March 22 2007 00:36 Servolisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2007 00:34 BroOd wrote:
No one owes baal anything, least of all Manifesto, and he wants to throw a "fuck you" before he bans a huge tool then he's certainly entitled to it.


Of course no one owes Baal anything, though that doesn't necessarily mean he had to be banned either.


No, but the fact that he's a jerk-off does.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
March 21 2007 15:37 GMT
#651
On March 22 2007 00:34 travis wrote:
I am not understanding something here.

What is the problem with him replying to baal's attacks before he banned him?


I think because Mani wanted to get baal heated up, and then ban him before he could reply in defense or something...It looks bad kinda
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
March 21 2007 15:37 GMT
#652
On March 22 2007 00:34 travis wrote:
I am not understanding something here.

What is the problem with him replying to baal's attacks before he banned him?


Personally I'd like to see long written flames before any ban, just for reading pleasure.
wtf was that signature
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42651 Posts
March 21 2007 15:38 GMT
#653
On March 22 2007 00:34 travis wrote:
I am not understanding something here.

What is the problem with him replying to baal's attacks before he banned him?


It was hardly replying. It was full on flaming. When Mani posted what he did he lowered himself to baals level and using his mod powers in that context is nothing more than abuse. If he wants to engage in flame wars in the heat of the moment like the rest of us mortals then he should abdicate his divine powers for that time.
But whatever, Mani conceded it was bad form, baals ban was pretty justified so as far as I'm concerned this particular issue is closed.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
March 21 2007 15:39 GMT
#654
On March 22 2007 00:20 LTT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2007 00:16 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On March 22 2007 00:14 Kwark wrote:
On March 21 2007 23:37 Manifesto7 wrote:
Fuck you. You are worth nothing at all, and know even less. You get up on this high horse like you are some kind of TL lorist pining for the old days, and then presume to tell the world about a subject and a process you know nothing about. The fact that you even comment on the quality of the forums when you yourself are responsible for lowering that quality is laughable.

The moderators on this site represent some of the smartest and most articulated people I have come across here. The level of discussion on this issue and all others would shame even the best of the general forum threads. They work hard and come up with fair results in order to make this a better place.

Get the fuck out baal. Seriously, don't come back. I would like to see your TL attitude stand at LP. Im tired of you coming here everytime you feel like you have to take a verbal dump. Do everybody a favour and just dont post.


And then you ban him for disrespect?
Unimpressed.

If you stayed aloof from the argument and he said what he said then fair enough.
But you engaged in shitslinging with him then banned him for giving as good as he got? Not right Mani.
It's an either or thing. If you want the ability to have flame wars, you abdicate the responsibilities of the Mod. You can't say "Get the fuck out baal" and then ban him for disrespect when he responds.

I know you're pissed off (your posting style gives it away) and I know you believe yourself to be in the right in this discussion. But neither of those gives you the right to tell baal to fuck off and then ban him for disrespect when he responds. I recommend you reconsider this when calmed down because this really doesn't show you in a decent light.


the difference is manifesto puts countless hours of straight-up work into this site, kwark. a moment of frustration from manifesto7 is the easiest thing in the world to overlook


That's certainly true and I respect Manifesto greatly for all he gives us. Moderation is a thankless job.

The problem is that Baal was complaining about Beyonder flaming Chibi and then subsequently banning him so Manifesto attempts to prove baal wrong by flaming him and then subsequently banning him? It just doesn't look right.


Baal´s problem was that he ignored what Mani, Naz and some other wrote why Chibi was banned and never got away from his meaning that the reason was Bey hating Chib. Nearly 10k post make you not a better person on this forum, just less easy to ban, not every spam is productive. It was not right that Eri posted intern Forum secrets, it just heated the discussion in the wrong direction. If things should be public i guess the majority of Mods would have voted for ;(.

You guys are guests here, Modorators make the rules, it is not the oposit.

1. THIS IS OUR HOUSE
2. THOU SHALL OBSERVE FORUM ETIQUETTE
3. THOU SHALL THINK BEFORE POSTING
4. THOU SHALL RESPECT YOUR ID
5. THOU SHALL NOT SPAM

Just the half of it but some maybe should go and read it again to remind them where and what they are.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
March 21 2007 15:39 GMT
#655
On March 22 2007 00:37 Servolisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2007 00:34 travis wrote:
I am not understanding something here.

What is the problem with him replying to baal's attacks before he banned him?


Personally I'd like to see long written flames before any ban, just for reading pleasure.


servo has style.

Yeah, pretty much what Kwark said. [why we agree on everything here? no clue ;o]
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 21 2007 15:39 GMT
#656
The fact that this thread exists doesn't give you all carte blanche to question everything the moderaters do

Keep that in mind
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
March 21 2007 15:39 GMT
#657
It was a worthy ban. And when you're doing it that way, it's not lowering yourself to baal's level.
It's called being hilariously accurate and to the point while ending the discussion so as to not continue the shit fest.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
March 21 2007 15:41 GMT
#658
On March 22 2007 00:38 Kwark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2007 00:34 travis wrote:
I am not understanding something here.

What is the problem with him replying to baal's attacks before he banned him?


It was hardly replying. It was full on flaming. When Mani posted what he did he lowered himself to baals level and using his mod powers in that context is nothing more than abuse. If he wants to engage in flame wars in the heat of the moment like the rest of us mortals then he should abdicate his divine powers for that time.
But whatever, Mani conceded it was bad form, baals ban was pretty justified so as far as I'm concerned this particular issue is closed.


Man there will be another 30 pages for Baal's banning now. Maybe it's this thread but no one seems capable of changing their minds on anything here... giving up now (only reason I kept at it so long was insomnia). :o
wtf was that signature
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
March 21 2007 15:43 GMT
#659
You did well Servolisk, very thought out posts! I will let you go take a rest and sleep
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
March 21 2007 15:47 GMT
#660
On March 22 2007 00:37 Metal[x] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2007 00:34 travis wrote:
I am not understanding something here.

What is the problem with him replying to baal's attacks before he banned him?


I think because Mani wanted to get baal heated up, and then ban him before he could reply in defense or something...It looks bad kinda


I could easily tell that was clearly not the case.
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