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Norway28847 Posts
yes because every single post by every single forum user ever made is supposed to be taken 100% literally and seriously.
if one had chosen to actually read chibis posts over the years and not attempt to misinterpret him in a way that demonises him, one would realize he's harmless, and I knew what his stance on pedophelia was through reading his posts on tl.net, not through discussing lenghtly with him on msn or anything like that.
if you search you could find a post made by myself which contains nothing other than the word "nigger", which I thought was a fucking hilarious post while making it, and in context, I genuinely believe it was. out of context and disregarding all my other posts, it would be very very bannable. chibi made one single post (the one with all the girls) that could have been bannable by itself, but it got him temp banned. he's made several other posts that are, if taken seriously, offensive, but if you read all his posts and get familiar with the character I don't see how one could be.
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I love how you take liberties with actual ages for the humour value which was already beaten to death. I also like how you do not take into account what is legal in both of our countries. I did nothing wrong, illegal, or even socially unacceptable from most countries point of view. Plus, i'm an amazing boyfriend.
The only people that can really make jokes about me is people from the USA. Anyway, back on topic.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
For example: Anytime age of consent is brought up people will automatically assume that Chibi is all for it being low so that he can have sex with young girls at his present age. Chibi has repeatedly stated that he would not partake in a adult/child relationship but entertains the possibility that one may work, and debates age of consent based on the criteria he believes is required for a relationship, not how low he can get away with.
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On March 21 2007 11:40 mdb wrote:
Testie it would have been so cool if you hadnt dated a 13 yo. But now all the things you post seem very funny to me.
think you are cool to post a wrong age?
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On March 21 2007 11:42 Liquid`Drone wrote:
yes because every single post by every single forum user ever made is supposed to be taken 100% literally and seriously.
if one had chosen to actually read chibis posts over the years and not attempt to misinterpret him in a way that demonises him, one would realize he's harmless, and I knew what his stance on pedophelia was through reading his posts on tl.net, not through discussing lenghtly with him on msn or anything like that.
if you search you could find a post made by myself which contains nothing other than the word "nigger", which I thought was a fucking hilarious post while making it, and in context, I genuinely believe it was. out of context and disregarding all my other posts, it would be very very bannable. chibi made one single post (the one with all the girls) that could have been bannable by itself, but it got him temp banned. he's made several other posts that are, if taken seriously, offensive, but if you read all his posts and get familiar with the character I don't see how one could be.
qft
this thread : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=49066
What do you guys think? That chibi realy thought that someone will post pics of his sister? I dont think so. If you are a guy who have never seen a post by chibi, such thread will be extremly offensive, but for people knowing chibi and the way he posts ,this thread is hilarious.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On March 21 2007 11:47 Ilvy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2007 11:40 mdb wrote:
Testie it would have been so cool if you hadnt dated a 13 yo. But now all the things you post seem very funny to me. think you are cool to post a wrong age?
16 or not, janice was the definition of child. but it cant be held against testie if he was a little naive
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On March 21 2007 11:47 Ilvy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2007 11:40 mdb wrote:
Testie it would have been so cool if you hadnt dated a 13 yo. But now all the things you post seem very funny to me. think you are cool to post a wrong age?
On the pictures I`ve seen of her she looks 11.
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I think there are also valid questions about other offensive posts that just don't happen to offend the general TL demographic as much as joking about pedophilia apparently does. The N word gets used far, far too often (in one of these threads, which are blurring together for me at the moment, Rekrul used the N word several times), and to me is drastically more offensive when used lightly by white people than joking about having sex with 11 year old girls. Surely this deserves at least a warning.
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Steve, it's not about understanding Chibi. I can understand his view point fine. The thing is, what he says is his viewpoint and what he has posted are two different things. It's not about understanding and accepting.
It's about how he was posting in an often vulgar manner.
The thread I linked was proof enough and not a first time thing for him and possibly not the worst of his remarks.
Edit: Bine, the N word isn't close to joking about having sex with 11 year olds. The N word is another matter that should have it's own thread if you feel it needs to be discussed.
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On March 21 2007 11:42 Liquid`Drone wrote:
yes because every single post by every single forum user ever made is supposed to be taken 100% literally and seriously.
Agreed, FakeSteve must be banned.
*comic relief*
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On March 21 2007 11:53 MYM.Testie wrote:
Steve, it's not about understanding Chibi. I can understand his view point fine. The thing is, what he says is his viewpoint and what he has posted are two different things. It's not about understanding and accepting.
It's about how he was posting in an often vulgar manner.
The thread I linked was proof enough and not a first time thing for him and possibly not the worst of his remarks.
If you think his posts differ from his viewpoint you don't understand his posts or his viewpoint, this is a simple statement of fact.
He very rarely posted in a vulgar manner and when he did it was clearly a joke.
Posting that picture of the asian girl was also obviously a joke. A joke in poor taste but that's not exactly reason for a witch hunt.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On March 21 2007 11:55 Yizuo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2007 11:42 Liquid`Drone wrote:
yes because every single post by every single forum user ever made is supposed to be taken 100% literally and seriously.
Agreed, FakeSteve must be banned.*comic relief*
hahah i forgot about that
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Calgary26003 Posts
On March 21 2007 10:12 -_- wrote:
Have any of you actually met Mora??
I stayed over at his house once. It was sexy times.
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On March 21 2007 11:49 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2007 11:47 Ilvy wrote:On March 21 2007 11:40 mdb wrote:
Testie it would have been so cool if you hadnt dated a 13 yo. But now all the things you post seem very funny to me. think you are cool to post a wrong age? 16 or not, janice was the definition of child. but it cant be held against testie if he was a little naive
Yes, because good ol' ronald mcdonald is the moral authority of the forums.
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Steve, it is you who is obviously not understanding.
His viewpoint is very easy to get and understand.
It is simply the way he kept portraying himself and how he went about posting. You should not care if the post is or isn't different from his viewpoint. That is not what was being discussed here.
I've already said that he can illustrate his points well and keep to good posting quality. He chose not to in too many instances. The point is, he annoyed people. Derailed threads. Could go about posting in a vulgar, immature, childish, manner. In the end, you can't really argue with 8 bans. A joke? His jokes were in very, very poor taste about the wrong subject.
Imo: he lowers the quality of the forum. Not due to my own moral standpoints, but purely from a posting perspective.
No one wants to read about how much dick we can stuff in an 11 year old girl. If anyone else posted that as a newcomer, that'd be an insta ban. Because of who Chibi is and peoples misperceptions about him (that he & other people have created about him) he is especially one to not play into that and make such posts.
He could write about what he wants in far better ways than he chose to. Granted, given the anti-chibi attitude he got from a lot of people, there is some sympathy with his predicament. But, it's not like he didn't bring a lot of it upon himself. If the search function were more manner to me, I could post a lot more things that would have been insta-ban posts had someone newer to the site posted it.
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On March 21 2007 12:00 Masamune wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2007 11:49 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On March 21 2007 11:47 Ilvy wrote:On March 21 2007 11:40 mdb wrote:
Testie it would have been so cool if you hadnt dated a 13 yo. But now all the things you post seem very funny to me. think you are cool to post a wrong age? 16 or not, janice was the definition of child. but it cant be held against testie if he was a little naive wanna troll? Yes, because good ol' ronald mcdonald is the moral authority of the forums.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On March 21 2007 12:08 MYM.Testie wrote:
Steve, it is you who is obviously not understanding.
His viewpoint is very easy to get and understand.
It is simply the way he kept portraying himself and how he went about posting. You should not care if the post is or isn't different from his viewpoint. That is not what was being discussed here.
I've already said that he can illustrate his points well and keep to good posting quality. He chose not to in too many instances. The point is, he annoyed people. Derailed threads. Could go about posting in a vulgar, immature, childish, manner. In the end, you can't really argue with 8 bans. A joke? His jokes were in very, very poor taste about the wrong subject.
percieving his posts the way you do is something you yourself do
ive already said that chibi gives me the village idiot vibe and i'm not suggesting he be unbanned. you're reading into my posts too much as well.
this is what i've said and this is what i mean:
1) I don't like how Beyonder handled the situation
2) Chibi isnt the horrible monster a lot of you pretend he is, and there is no reason to think he was banned because of anything related to fucking children.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On March 21 2007 12:12 Ilvy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2007 12:00 Masamune wrote:On March 21 2007 11:49 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On March 21 2007 11:47 Ilvy wrote:On March 21 2007 11:40 mdb wrote:
Testie it would have been so cool if you hadnt dated a 13 yo. But now all the things you post seem very funny to me. think you are cool to post a wrong age? 16 or not, janice was the definition of child. but it cant be held against testie if he was a little naive wanna troll? Yes, because good ol' ronald mcdonald is the moral authority of the forums.
do you have anything to add besides antagonism
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On March 21 2007 12:13 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2007 12:08 MYM.Testie wrote:
Steve, it is you who is obviously not understanding.
His viewpoint is very easy to get and understand.
It is simply the way he kept portraying himself and how he went about posting. You should not care if the post is or isn't different from his viewpoint. That is not what was being discussed here.
I've already said that he can illustrate his points well and keep to good posting quality. He chose not to in too many instances. The point is, he annoyed people. Derailed threads. Could go about posting in a vulgar, immature, childish, manner. In the end, you can't really argue with 8 bans. A joke? His jokes were in very, very poor taste about the wrong subject. percieving his posts the way you do is something you yourself do ive already said that chibi gives me the village idiot vibe and i'm not suggesting he be unbanned. you're reading into my posts too much as well. this is what i've said and this is what i mean: 1) I don't like how Beyonder handled the situation 2) Chibi isnt the horrible monster a lot of you pretend he is, and there is no reason to think he was banned because of anything related to fucking children.
When did I call him a monster? I said he was banned because of how he went about posting, and how he portrayed himself. Obviously his admitted attraction to younger people had something to do with it. I never called it the cause. It's part of the equation.
But he is morally reprehensible for making a post like, "how much dick can we fit into an 11year old".
If you don't find that morally reprehensible, and find some humour in that it questions your own morality, or lack thereof.
And don't attempt to call me a knight in shining armor again or trying to come off as one. I am not. I'm stating a fact that a post like that simply is morally reprehensible and will invite backlash.
There is simply a line. People have a general idea of where it was. Chibi knew where it was. He chose to be like Stimey and bring up things we've already been over and beaten to death and post in an immature manner.
He even agreed to a set of rules which he couldn't abide by.
And yes, you can now say it's about Bey. But as the discussion to ban Chibi was there before Bey banned him... it was obvious he had broken the rules that were placed upon him.
I had not even discussed Bey as Nazgul already dealt with that & it was already done.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
I don't agree or disagree with the ban, it makes no difference to me.
for the entirety of this thread you have insisted that chibi is a pedophile, and thats simply not true. at times he was willing to play the devil's advocate, and even then he didn't allude to having any attraction to young girls besides the normal physical attraction that any guy has for girls past a certain age.
its not just you, there are lots of people who will insist right now that chibi, given the chance and with no repercussions, would pursue a 12 year old girl. hopefully your viewpoint has changed now, but your earlier posts display the mentality i'm trying to address
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