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BfA Community Links:
GP : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/KKMpKPSlgd?region=EU&faction=Horde
TLEUH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/v9x5bAF3jD?region=EU&faction=Horde
TLEUA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/ALwgJnC5Wo?region=EU&faction=Alliance
TLNAH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/vPrmjJxiVnJ?region=US&faction=Horde
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Bnet: Bnet - https://blizzard.com/invite/amvLM0EubJv

On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 02 2018 17:09 GMT
#8381
"I won't let you take us down that dark path again, young Hellscream. I'll kill you myself before that day comes..."
-Saurfang
The fact that saurfang is still there getting ready to fight for sylvanas at undercity is incredibly out of character for him, he should be ready to kill her already, just like he swore he would do to garrosh if he tried to do this shit
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51706 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-02 17:34:37
August 02 2018 17:34 GMT
#8382
I mean the horde is defense in the battle for loderon, he's there to protect his fellow horde members, I think he pretty much loses it and stays capturered only after Sylvanas decides to use the blight plague.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
August 02 2018 17:56 GMT
#8383
On August 03 2018 01:26 maze. wrote:
www.wowhead.com

Novellas from the collecter's editon show some differences compared to the ingame events.Blizzard will publish them online at a later date.

It has always been a problem in warcraft lore that important pieces of informations are only available in books.

+ Show Spoiler +
Unfortunately the last moments, the passing the kill on to Saurfang and deciding the burn the world tree..they haven’t really improved in my opinion. The motivation for burning it is described as inflicting the wound that Malfurion’s death should have suffered.
But since Saurfang refused to kill him, she had to do something else and at that moment decided to give the other. Saurfang screams for them to stop firing, this is not their way, this is not what he signed up for, but it was already too late.


Saurfang did not move for hours, not until the screams faded and the flames had burned themselves down to embers. Before him, stood a smoking husk that had once been a great civilization. Inside him was a feeling of despair, a feeling of shame. There was no haze of corruption now to soften the horror.

Saurfang would remember this moment in his dreams forever. He would relive his shame, and all the new ones to come, over and over again.

You have led your Horde in the service of death, Malfurion had said.

How could Saurfang face the soldiers he had led into this war? How could he explain what they had done?

He couldn’t. He would never know how.

But the burden would be his, always, until his dying day.

As Saurfang turned away, he hoped that day would come soon…


Yup. All the stories give the whole event more detailed version which, as Nobbel said, should've been portrayed in-game. But at least we know them now/soon enough.

http://www.wowhead.com/news=286021/story-of-the-burning-of-teldrassil-elegy-and-a-good-war-with-nobbel87
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
August 02 2018 18:49 GMT
#8384
On August 03 2018 02:09 Unleashing wrote:
"I won't let you take us down that dark path again, young Hellscream. I'll kill you myself before that day comes..."
-Saurfang
The fact that saurfang is still there getting ready to fight for sylvanas at undercity is incredibly out of character for him, he should be ready to kill her already, just like he swore he would do to garrosh if he tried to do this shit


"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-02 18:54:01
August 02 2018 18:53 GMT
#8385
Stonetalon mountain story was a result of miscommunication within the blizzard writing team
https://www.engadget.com/2014/11/11/alex-afrasiabi-on-warlords-garrosh-and-alternate-azeroth/

It doesn't represent what they actually ended up wanting to do with garrosh
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-03 01:52:50
August 02 2018 19:04 GMT
#8386
It wasn't just stonetalon, it was the entire expansion. He was warchief for 2 expansions and had an overnight personality change between them -


It's bad writing if they make a bunch of content for a character, years and sometimes a decade of lore and then decide that they want to take the character in a new direction and so start over on all of the values and personality of that character. It's not the same character, they just have the same name and clothing. You end up with 50% of the lore being "real garrosh" and 50% being "fake garrosh" because it was written in another direction and often even by a different writer so that they're no longer recognizable as the same character despite years as a secondary character and then years more as main character before their personality change

---

Horde catapults also hitting the inside of darnassus from the mainland.. no, that would require a range of ~3km in the tiny shrunk player world and many tens of kilometers in the lore world. Medieval era catapults usually had ranges 10-100x smaller than that, it's laughably implausibly far and for no reason. They could have just sailed over there with some torches.

There are other versions of the story which are only kinda trash instead of completely trash - they contradict the ingame version of the story - but they're out of game with a price tag printed on the front so they don't exist. That includes retcons to the war of thorns (is it a retcon if the "official" version happens before the "fake" version? seems like that could use a more appropriate term..) and all of the calia / desolate council stuff.

I don't expect it to be good, i'm mainly surprised at the amount of people that are shocked that it's written questionably for the X'th year in a row
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 02 2018 21:44 GMT
#8387
But if we give up hope, Sylvanas wins...

+ Show Spoiler +
You are pretty on point here Cyro. I bet half the reason there is so much discussion about this right now is that there is not much else going on with WoW till the expansion hits
I can take that responsibility.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 02 2018 23:30 GMT
#8388
I'm just disappointed after all the decent story that happened in Legion.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-03 03:14:26
August 03 2018 03:11 GMT
#8389
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2417479-Yesterdays-Honor-farm?p=49860854

ow-

tl;dr new system allowed for crazy honor farming a few orders of magnitudes faster than BG's. Some people used it to farm to super high honor levels and then blizzard removed the ability to do so but didn't roll back anyone.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
August 03 2018 03:50 GMT
#8390
Bans would probably be a bit steep but no rollback at all is a bit weird. lul pvp I guess
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
August 03 2018 03:56 GMT
#8391


That looked pretty awesome. Saurfang is a beast.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51706 Posts
August 03 2018 04:11 GMT
#8392
man, sucks the entire saurfang bloodline is pretty much dead, family of badasses.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-03 04:55:16
August 03 2018 04:48 GMT
#8393
That was a fantastic cinematic. In about every way. Much less grandiose than the usually are, but extremely good at conveying the emotions of both characters.

And perfect to give things a different spin after all the waves caused by the Sylvanas stuff.

Also best troll portrayal ever.
Off-season = best season
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10979 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-03 05:19:26
August 03 2018 05:19 GMT
#8394
Finally they turned the rastamaaan a bit down and made a Troll seem like an actual guy.
levelping
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore759 Posts
August 03 2018 05:26 GMT
#8395
This cinematic is much better than the warbringers one for Sylvannas.

Unfortunately it also shows how inconsistent the writing is. If Saurfang was so conflicted about burning down the tree, you would have thought that he could have said something BEFORE it happened, as opposed to putting up some token resistance to Sylvannas after the fact.

I get the feeling that this cinematic was made before Warbringers, and also before they made the final creative decision on who exactly burnt the tree. The dialogue in this cinematic is sufficiently ambiguous that Saurfang could have objected to the tree burning at the onset.Heck with some amount of imagination the dialogue is sufficiently open to accommodate other reasons why the tree was burnt.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12071 Posts
August 03 2018 07:46 GMT
#8396
I'm going to miss darnassus and undercutting. My two home capitals. Have they said if we can use the timetravel function like in blasted lands to go back there?
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6333 Posts
August 03 2018 08:28 GMT
#8397
On August 03 2018 16:46 Qikz wrote:
I'm going to miss darnassus and undercutting. My two home capitals. Have they said if we can use the timetravel function like in blasted lands to go back there?

A Bronzedragon flight member showed up immediately after you finish the questline.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
August 03 2018 09:04 GMT
#8398
On August 03 2018 12:56 Alventenie wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW_h0qf9vpA

That looked pretty awesome. Saurfang is a beast.


Fantastic.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 03 2018 09:47 GMT
#8399
On August 03 2018 12:56 Alventenie wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW_h0qf9vpA

That looked pretty awesome. Saurfang is a beast.

This is the best cinematic to come from WoW ever in my opinion. Hell, best thing since Grom and Thrall vs Mannoroth in Warcraft III.

The Teldrassil images are haunting. And a real character driven video? Much better than random action scenes.
Neosteel Enthusiast
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
August 03 2018 10:19 GMT
#8400
*sigh*

So the horde warchief is the villain AGAIN.

I was kind of hoping that the Alliance was responsible this time round. Like maybe the lil' lion got the wrong end of the stick or was grieving for daddy
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
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