EPTOn April 17 2014 16:40 CaucasianAsian wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, arent we innocent until proven guilty?
If I'm not mistaken, arent we innocent until proven guilty?
Not on the Internet dude.
Luxury found not-guilty of domestic violence charges - Pag…
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
Not on the Internet dude. | ||
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riyanme
Philippines940 Posts
On April 17 2014 16:23 Saechiis wrote: Move on people. This hate circlejerk is disgusting. He cheated in a game 5 years ago and then got sued by his ex wife for abuse of which he has been cleared. Let's not drive another person to suicide over your selfish misgivings. i hate him for being in part of the scandal that tainted bw professional esports.... i forgive him but i dont forget.... he may be innocent on his assualt on his ex wife but he is sure guilty on the esports scandal.... sorry but he is still a disgusting pile of~ | ||
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iFU.pauline
France1778 Posts
 Classic tactics... | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
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nekotrap
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Filco
France166 Posts
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JohnChoi
1773 Posts
My ex-wife would not acknowledge the results of the first trial, and pressed for an appeal so I had to endure more difficulties. During that time, even though I felt that it was unfair and difficult, it became known that I did not commit a crime, and I was certain my innocence would become clear. This part seemed a bit a different to me in the original text. it was stated more like "I knew I had not committed a crime and I was certain my innocence would become clear/I'd get the Not Guilty verdict." And then he says "after the not guilty verdict he felt relieved and the hurtful feelings subsided a bit." A. Because of the distortion of the truth, I became mentally exhausted. As the trials continued, I gained a distrust in people, and became socio-phobic (scared of other people) so it was very hard. I felt nothing but the scathing eyes on me when I went out. Here he adds at the end that he is scared to go out (because of the looks and distrust he feels) A. I am in the middle of reporting her for perjury and libel. In life, during this very important time the hatred I can feel in society’s eyes about me and it’s very difficult. I can’t do anything. It’s very devastating. It’s very difficult to go about this alone. I think Luxury's choice of words here is important because he says something more along the lines of "In this incredibly important period of life, the society's view of me was excessively harsh and the helplessness I felt was too hard for me to handle alone." I think the 'excessively' is important here because TO ME it feels like he acknowledges and takes blame for the damage he's given to the progaming scene with match fixing especially as he apologizes for it later in the interview. A. First, I am incredibly sorry to my team, fans, and family. As the incident came about, and the investigation for the truth, I would like to give my testimony. This part read to me more like "When the scandal became public I acknowledged [my wrongdoing] right away and gave a truthful testimony to the prosecutor." I did not act appropriately as a pro-gamer, and even today I am regretting my actions and continue to self-reflect on what I had done. Since high school, I was engulfed in the goal of becoming a progamer. There are not enough reasons to say why I had done it. Even though it ended this way, I have matured through the mistakes of my past. Here Luxury is saying because he all-in'd on his goal to being a progamer, his moral sense (like distinguishing right and wrong) was lacking. There are many people who still don’t think of me as a progamer, due to the despicable and shameful incidents that happened. Alongside with my fans, I am very disappointed in myself, and I feel extremely regretful and I think it was a shame. It reads more like "There are still many things I was unable to accomplish as a progamer but due to the shameful incidents [I was involved in], I disappointed the fans and myself (his goals). A. Because I was a pro gamer for a long time, honestly I still have a lot of desire to continue in the gaming world. But since I cannot continue like this, I am currently preparing to try to become a government employee. The wording Luxury used here read something like "but I cannot selfishly do only what I want" I wanted to point this part out because I THINK he realizes an ex-pro convicted of match-fixing continuing to play is "not right/not ok with the public." A. I am very sorry for the shameful incidents that I have done. I want to thank everyone who has been with me until the end and all of the strength that they have given me. I want to thank those who cheered for me, and my encouraging friends, family, and lawyer. I am very grateful. i think the word 주변지인 means more like nearby acquaintances. I'm not really sure on this part :S but I don't think he's saying lawyer though. From now on, I will be much more careful about my actions and what I say. Through this incident, I am extremely relieved that the truth was made clear. From now on, as I reflect on myself and my previous actions, I am going to try very hard in life. Also, compared to the pain from the cyberbullying of the netizens, I hope that they will give encouragement and continue to cheer. the bolded to me seemed more "I am relieved that I was able to experience personally that the truth will inevitably be revealed." | ||
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Glioburd
France1911 Posts
On April 17 2014 17:37 Filco wrote: I never understood what exactly match fixing is, and neither did I ever understood why people (even occidental noobs) would never forgive him. It not like if these guys had been banned from every possible league, had their career ruined and heir reputation destroyed. To say he's a piece of shit like that reminds me all the fucks in middle age throwing fruits to someone guilty. It happened years from now, what about redemption and forgivness... Especially since that's really a korean affair... ^ this On April 17 2014 16:26 Jaaaaasper wrote: He's still a disgusting piece of shit And not guilty is not a innocent verdict. Funny how our justice concept is different. If Luxury is only a match fixer, I don't understand why you guys still consider him like a piece of shit more than the others. He is the first one to regret it. He auto destructed his life. | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
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riyanme
Philippines940 Posts
On April 17 2014 17:44 Glioburd wrote: ^ this Funny how our justice concept is different. If Luxury is only a match fixer, I don't understand why you guys still consider him like a piece of shit more than the others. He is the first one to regret it. He auto destructed his life. we never said he is more pile of~ than those bigger fishes. i do acknowledge his public apology, truly a brave one but the harm was done. its like after you commit a murder you turn in to the police, an innocent life is lost forever "i just killed a man and im sorry, i wont do it again..." lux threw one of the mortal wounds to bw and esports in general On April 17 2014 17:37 Filco wrote: I never understood what exactly match fixing is, and neither did I ever understood why people (even occidental noobs) would never forgive him. It not like if these guys had been banned from every possible league, had their career ruined and heir reputation destroyed. To say he's a piece of shit like that reminds me all the fucks in middle age throwing fruits to someone guilty. It happened years from now, what about redemption and forgivness... Especially since that's really a korean affair... have he ever did something to redeem himself? words are piles of crap without action. i will only give my total respect if he 'truly' repented for his crimes | ||
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
On April 17 2014 16:23 Saechiis wrote: Move on people. This hate circlejerk is disgusting. He cheated in a game 5 years ago and then got sued by his ex wife for abuse of which he has been cleared. Let's not drive another person to suicide over your selfish misgivings. I think watching any circle-jerk would be kind of disgusting to witness. However, this is not any kind of sexual thing. It's just people voicing their opinion on big of a douchebag Luxury is. If Luxury committed suicide tomorrow, I wouldn't be like "Oh shit, I did that." because I didn't do anything. It is has not been proven that people can be "driven" to suicide by others, because there are many mitigating factors involve, such as the person's mental health, physical health, possible drug/alcohol usage and overall psyche. | ||
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eScaper-tsunami
Canada313 Posts
On April 17 2014 18:02 riyanme wrote: have he ever did something to redeem himself? words are piles of crap without action. i will only give my total respect if he 'truly' repented for his crimes How is he gonna repent? Commit suicide? Let's be realistic here, it's the haters who doesn't even give him a chance to repent. | ||
CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11602 Posts
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JohnChoi
1773 Posts
On April 17 2014 18:02 riyanme wrote: have he ever did something to redeem himself? words are piles of crap without action. i will only give my total respect if he 'truly' repented for his crimes honestly at this point, the fact that he apologized and is in deep regret of his wrong doing plus the fact that he understands it would be wrong to return back to gaming is good enough for me :l I don't even know if this interview is 100% true but I wish Luxury the best of luck on the rest of his life... hopefully what he said about learning from his mistakes is true. | ||
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riyanme
Philippines940 Posts
On April 17 2014 18:22 eScaper-tsunami wrote: How is he gonna repent? Commit suicide? Let's be realistic here, it's the haters who doesn't even give him a chance to repent. when in a situation like this, you need to man up and seek redemption regardles of who throw 'fruits' at him, he should not fall now is the time not to be weak and be swallowed by this unforgiving society all of us deserves a second chance, bad memories can be 'undone' by doing good deeds i sincerly hope he will be reaping the good fruits of his labor soon time will tell | ||
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skzlime
Hungary462 Posts
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
On April 17 2014 18:13 ninazerg wrote: I think watching any circle-jerk would be kind of disgusting to witness. However, this is not any kind of sexual thing. It's just people voicing their opinion on big of a douchebag Luxury is. If Luxury committed suicide tomorrow, I wouldn't be like "Oh shit, I did that." because I didn't do anything. It is has not been proven that people can be "driven" to suicide by others, because there are many mitigating factors involve, such as the person's mental health, physical health, possible drug/alcohol usage and overall psyche. Move on. | ||
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Miragee
8714 Posts
His actions (among the actions of everyone involved in the match fixing scandale) took a huge part of the decay of bw. End of story. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51636 Posts
On April 17 2014 18:22 eScaper-tsunami wrote: How is he gonna repent? Commit suicide? Let's be realistic here, it's the haters who doesn't even give him a chance to repent. if he lives like a decent human being like his brother, I'll be fine. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23448 Posts
It's fucking terrible how you're talking about another human being just because his actions got YOUR toys taken away. (seems to be like blaming him for bw's loss of popularity just seems a convenient scapegoat, it's like 0.0001% of games that were ever fixed) because my post lacks a hitler reference this is exactly like when hitler was blaming the jews for the downfall for the greatness of germany | ||
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