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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22608 Posts
May 02 2014 19:03 GMT
#9361
On May 03 2014 03:59 zeo wrote:
They will all fucking burn in hell, every single one of those Bandera shits and Chernomorets hooligans. They even stopped a fire truck coming to the scene and beat up the firefighters. Those fucking junta pigs will pay for this mass murder.

Arnt you cute when your angry. Where were you when people were getting tortured less then a week ago. Where were you when Madian protestors were tortured?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
May 02 2014 19:07 GMT
#9362
On May 03 2014 04:03 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2014 03:59 zeo wrote:
They will all fucking burn in hell, every single one of those Bandera shits and Chernomorets hooligans. They even stopped a fire truck coming to the scene and beat up the firefighters. Those fucking junta pigs will pay for this mass murder.

Arnt you cute when your angry. Where were you when people were getting tortured less then a week ago. Where were you when Madian protestors were tortured?

38 people, 38 civilians burned alive and your only comment is an ad hominem. Don't worry, now I will be in this thread until every organizer of Euromaidan is put on trial for murder.
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
May 02 2014 19:14 GMT
#9363
On May 03 2014 04:07 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2014 04:03 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 03 2014 03:59 zeo wrote:
They will all fucking burn in hell, every single one of those Bandera shits and Chernomorets hooligans. They even stopped a fire truck coming to the scene and beat up the firefighters. Those fucking junta pigs will pay for this mass murder.

Arnt you cute when your angry. Where were you when people were getting tortured less then a week ago. Where were you when Madian protestors were tortured?

38 people, 38 civilians burned alive and your only comment is an ad hominem. Don't worry, now I will be in this thread until every organizer of Euromaidan is put on trial for murder.

Hey man, what happened is fucking horrible but everything that you say is just unbelievably opportunistic.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 19:21:17
May 02 2014 19:15 GMT
#9364
On May 03 2014 04:14 Shiragaku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2014 04:07 zeo wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:03 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 03 2014 03:59 zeo wrote:
They will all fucking burn in hell, every single one of those Bandera shits and Chernomorets hooligans. They even stopped a fire truck coming to the scene and beat up the firefighters. Those fucking junta pigs will pay for this mass murder.

Arnt you cute when your angry. Where were you when people were getting tortured less then a week ago. Where were you when Madian protestors were tortured?

38 people, 38 civilians burned alive and your only comment is an ad hominem. Don't worry, now I will be in this thread until every organizer of Euromaidan is put on trial for murder.

Hey man, what happened is fucking horrible but everything that you say is just unbelievably opportunistic.

What I'm saying is 38 people are dead, trapped in a building that was set on fire with Molotov cocktails and the collective reaction of the western media is 'meh'.

Someone is going to pay for this. edit: and pay dearly

Fucking Carl Bilt is trying to justify the murder of 38 people on twitter


Of course they were trying to take over a building they have been in for months
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 19:20:59
May 02 2014 19:17 GMT
#9365
Loool, Zeo is all high and mighty after telling us after Berkut killing a hundred people on Maidan that they can go suck Hitler's cock. This would be hilarious if it weren't so sad.

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Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 19:28:27
May 02 2014 19:18 GMT
#9366
Brief slideshow of images from unrest in Odessa:
http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/slideshow?articleId=USRTR3NKN4#a=1

On May 02 2014 22:41 radiatoren wrote:
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On May 02 2014 22:17 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
On May 02 2014 22:11 Acertos wrote:
On May 02 2014 21:14 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
On May 02 2014 19:45 Acertos wrote:
On May 02 2014 19:30 Feartheguru wrote:
On May 02 2014 19:14 mdb wrote:
This non stop talking about nazis and faschists is getting ridiculous.


Exactly, it's as if people in this thread thing Putin calling the maideners nazis automatically is the key to invalidating Russia's actions. There's no different between this and Kerry calling all the maideners peaceful protesters and all the anti-maideners terrorists, standard propaganda.

No it's different because it's to a different degree.

Look at that fucking happy piece of shit. I hope the recession will hit Russia hard, maybe after that there will be a government change in Russia. Fucking amazing that in the 21st century we are still plagued by bastards like Putin.

What does this guy have anything to do with Putin again?

This guy says help is coming and the help he is talking about is the help of Putin's Russia.


The insurgents have been saying that for weeks. Then they bitch about how Russia refuses to help them. It seems that it's little more than a morale thing. I think it's quite evident Putin couldn't give a rat's ass about these ragtag bandits.

If and when Russia rolls in the armor, I am without a doubt it won't be for the sake of the insurgents, just saying.

I would not be necessarily angry with Putin with this specific matter. I would be angry with these guys for unintentionally giving Putin a wonderful hand of cards.

It is clear that Putin is playing chess while the insurgents are playing tic-tac-toe. I think Putin is starting to feel the pressure politically from the Duma to move into eastern Ukraine and I think he is starting to feel the scorched earth rhetorics of the media mobilizing that sentiment a bit too much, a bit too fast. That Russia should need to intervene would not be Putins favourite situation since it will incur actual trade sanctions from Europe and international condemnation. I think Putin had hoped Ukraines fear of Russian intervention would be enough to deter a reaction to the insurgents, but now he is forced to act in some way.

Calling the Geneva convention dead is stating the obvious. The next move is still on Putin and he is pretty heavily pinned. Putin can either invade officially or stall by starting a new round of negotiations. It obviously depends on the polical climate and Putins overall strategy, but officially moving into Ukraine is not going to be an easy choice.

Too late. Now with violence in Odessa, I think stalling for more talks is off the table. Not that talks were an option anyways. The US is seriously pushing the Ukrainian government to crush the dissidents, and the Russians made a resolute stand that such action will be dealt with. Where is room for talks when you have foreign countries pulling chains in Ukraine? :S

On May 03 2014 02:47 Ghanburighan wrote:

Putin has learned well from Uncle Sam. Still, I thought he could be more creative than this at least.

On May 03 2014 03:57 radiatoren wrote:
.The plot thickens even further:
Show nested quote +
Obama was speaking to reporters at the White House after talks with German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who also supported a move to wider sanctions and said the European Union and the United States would continue to work in concert on the issue.

"The next step is going to be a broader-based sectoral sanctions regime," Obama said. Merkel agreed, saying that May 25 was a critical date and "we will see to it that elections can take place."

Reuters

That is a further time pressure on Putin, but to what avail is the question? So far his government has been adamant in keeping the story consistent and never critizising the actions of the insurgents and changing tone could be seen as weakness in Russias domestic environment. It gets harder and harder to see a satisfactory solution for all parts that doesn't lead to a very dark place. Especially if Russia insists on international UN peacekeeping being off the table.

Btw. things start to really heat up in UN. Churkin accusing "the west" of interfering, citing insurgents for hearing english on the comms during the Ukrainian offensive and this one: "The US and EU take great responsibility practically cutting all paths to resolve the crisis peacefully," (Russian media shows Churkin and Ban Ki-Moon, you have to wonder if there are other opinions among the people being called out? Dishonest coverage?)

This sounds like a step in a plan. Just not sure what the plan is. Implicating US and EU as conspirators with Ukraine sounds at best like a domestic political justification, but it is only reinforcing Merkel and Obamas diagnosis of economic isolation as a necessity. Russia is indeed themself practically cutting all paths to resolve the crisis peacefully by going further down that line of unbending indignation at everyones actions but their own and the insurgents...


Like Kerry, Obama is stating obvious falsehoods and making action off of that. All reports shows these "groups" are certainly not "Russian-backed". These "groups" cannot stop bitching about how Russia doesn't even back them. However, the US's goal is to oppose Russia. We will go to any length to justify punishing Russia because we're losing in our own interests in Ukraine, which we thought was a shoe-in with Maidan, we're losing the tug-of-war without Russia having to lift a finger following Crimea, and we'd do it no matter the circumstances, just because Russia is "winning" in some way or another here. I bet there could be wholesale massacres by the Kievan government, and we'd still support them as long as they follow in our line in opposing Russia. No one is on Ukraine's side, certainly not the US either. Everyone is simply on the side of their political/strategic interests. Ukraine is caught in the crossfire. Jesus, I can only imagine how the US is going to deal with China threatening US interests in the years to come. Sanctions aren't exactly going to work on them.
Greem
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
730 Posts
May 02 2014 19:21 GMT
#9367
well i hope those allowing this to happen won't sleep for many years. Its crazy, how could you do such mostrosity, entire building of people, who probable didn't even understood properly all the things and mostly young people. This is a result of polarization which all this groups been spreading, people was forced to take sides...I didnt expect this go so far as civial people burning other civilian...

This event will divide even more the country, country still, but if this goes on some more months, i doubt even that. Who to blame ? Well firstly i blame those spreading any kind of propaganda to polarize and divide, and from my point of view this is this new goverment of Ukraine, incapable of nothing but violence, violence to come to "throne" and incapable of cooling off the population. It's hard to predict anything that comes after this.
youtube.com/N0rthernL1ght
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 19:26:53
May 02 2014 19:25 GMT
#9368
Judicator, let's be honest here, some of these groups are not Russian backed, the Cossacks most certainly are. They've been fighting Putin's wars since Chechnya, and were active in Georgia too. And you're ignoring all of the support Putin is giving the troops by a) having an invasion force at the border, b) demanding the `separatists' are left alone or the invasion troop comes in, c) propaganda war, d) diplomatic efforts in the UN and Geneva in their support, e) advice and equipment provided to them and intercepted by various intelligence organization. Kerry made that one statement based on NYT information way back, but since then he's been emphasizing other support Russia is giving these people, and that's pretty much factual.

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Something more that you might find interesting:
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
May 02 2014 19:25 GMT
#9369
On May 03 2014 04:15 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2014 04:14 Shiragaku wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:07 zeo wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:03 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 03 2014 03:59 zeo wrote:
They will all fucking burn in hell, every single one of those Bandera shits and Chernomorets hooligans. They even stopped a fire truck coming to the scene and beat up the firefighters. Those fucking junta pigs will pay for this mass murder.

Arnt you cute when your angry. Where were you when people were getting tortured less then a week ago. Where were you when Madian protestors were tortured?

38 people, 38 civilians burned alive and your only comment is an ad hominem. Don't worry, now I will be in this thread until every organizer of Euromaidan is put on trial for murder.

Hey man, what happened is fucking horrible but everything that you say is just unbelievably opportunistic.

What I'm saying is 38 people are dead, trapped in a building that was set on fire with Molotov cocktails and the collective reaction of the western media is 'meh'.

Someone is going to pay for this. edit: and pay dearly


Should i go back in the thread an check if you were that adamant when the berkut intervention went out of hand, and hundreds were killed by the police?

I don't know if you even realize that you're even worse than PaleMan, at least he's honest about what he's thinking even if it's bs. You're worse, a hipocritical, opportunistic and proletic.. Well.

Nobody here is denying that 38 deaths is not acceptable, but for most people here it doesn't matter what side they're on. It's 38 people. We could pull a zeo and say "everything that happens now is their fault", do you see anybody doing that? No? Well. What a surprise.
On track to MA1950A.
sgtnoobkilla
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia249 Posts
May 02 2014 19:30 GMT
#9370
I seriously hope Russia doesn't use this as a precedent to go in. The last thing Ukraine needs right now are Russian grunts to cut up the country even more...

Then again once news of this reaches the rest of the eastern part of the country, the possibility of a total civil war is going to become very real.
Don't play with your food unless it plays with you first.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
May 02 2014 19:31 GMT
#9371
On May 03 2014 04:25 m4ini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2014 04:15 zeo wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:14 Shiragaku wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:07 zeo wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:03 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 03 2014 03:59 zeo wrote:
They will all fucking burn in hell, every single one of those Bandera shits and Chernomorets hooligans. They even stopped a fire truck coming to the scene and beat up the firefighters. Those fucking junta pigs will pay for this mass murder.

Arnt you cute when your angry. Where were you when people were getting tortured less then a week ago. Where were you when Madian protestors were tortured?

38 people, 38 civilians burned alive and your only comment is an ad hominem. Don't worry, now I will be in this thread until every organizer of Euromaidan is put on trial for murder.

Hey man, what happened is fucking horrible but everything that you say is just unbelievably opportunistic.

What I'm saying is 38 people are dead, trapped in a building that was set on fire with Molotov cocktails and the collective reaction of the western media is 'meh'.

Someone is going to pay for this. edit: and pay dearly


Should i go back in the thread an check if you were that adamant when the berkut intervention went out of hand, and hundreds were killed by the police?

I don't know if you even realize that you're even worse than PaleMan, at least he's honest about what he's thinking even if it's bs. You're worse, a hipocritical, opportunistic and proletic.. Well.

Nobody here is denying that 38 deaths is not acceptable, but for most people here it doesn't matter what side they're on. It's 38 people. We could pull a zeo and say "everything that happens now is their fault", do you see anybody doing that? No? Well. What a surprise.

Please go through the thread and quote were I said 70 people deserved to die. And answer why the media is so hesitant to say that the fire was started by molotov cocktails being thrown at and into the building?
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
May 02 2014 19:32 GMT
#9372
On May 03 2014 04:30 sgtnoobkilla wrote:
I seriously hope Russia doesn't use this as a precedent to go in. The last thing Ukraine needs right now are Russian grunts to cut up the country even more...

Then again once news of this reaches the rest of the eastern part of the country, the possibility of a total civil war is going to become very real.


They're not neanderthalers, they use internet etc as well. News reach worldwide pretty instantly. Or i misunderstood what you were saying, sorry then.

In total, i agree. Civil war is not so unreal anymore.
On track to MA1950A.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 19:37:36
May 02 2014 19:34 GMT
#9373
On May 03 2014 04:31 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2014 04:25 m4ini wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:15 zeo wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:14 Shiragaku wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:07 zeo wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:03 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 03 2014 03:59 zeo wrote:
They will all fucking burn in hell, every single one of those Bandera shits and Chernomorets hooligans. They even stopped a fire truck coming to the scene and beat up the firefighters. Those fucking junta pigs will pay for this mass murder.

Arnt you cute when your angry. Where were you when people were getting tortured less then a week ago. Where were you when Madian protestors were tortured?

38 people, 38 civilians burned alive and your only comment is an ad hominem. Don't worry, now I will be in this thread until every organizer of Euromaidan is put on trial for murder.

Hey man, what happened is fucking horrible but everything that you say is just unbelievably opportunistic.

What I'm saying is 38 people are dead, trapped in a building that was set on fire with Molotov cocktails and the collective reaction of the western media is 'meh'.

Someone is going to pay for this. edit: and pay dearly


Should i go back in the thread an check if you were that adamant when the berkut intervention went out of hand, and hundreds were killed by the police?

I don't know if you even realize that you're even worse than PaleMan, at least he's honest about what he's thinking even if it's bs. You're worse, a hipocritical, opportunistic and proletic.. Well.

Nobody here is denying that 38 deaths is not acceptable, but for most people here it doesn't matter what side they're on. It's 38 people. We could pull a zeo and say "everything that happens now is their fault", do you see anybody doing that? No? Well. What a surprise.

Please go through the thread and quote were I said 70 people deserved to die. And answer why the media is so hesitant to say that the fire was started by molotov cocktails being thrown at and into the building?


They do. German media at least is talking about "criminal firestarters". So just fucking stop your stupid whiteknighting, you not only look ridiculous, you are wrong. About your first part: you didn't? So you also didn't say "they had it coming" (paraphrasing)?

edit: args, in the hurry doublepost, sry
On track to MA1950A.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 19:41:35
May 02 2014 19:38 GMT
#9374
On May 03 2014 04:34 m4ini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2014 04:31 zeo wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:25 m4ini wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:15 zeo wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:14 Shiragaku wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:07 zeo wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:03 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 03 2014 03:59 zeo wrote:
They will all fucking burn in hell, every single one of those Bandera shits and Chernomorets hooligans. They even stopped a fire truck coming to the scene and beat up the firefighters. Those fucking junta pigs will pay for this mass murder.

Arnt you cute when your angry. Where were you when people were getting tortured less then a week ago. Where were you when Madian protestors were tortured?

38 people, 38 civilians burned alive and your only comment is an ad hominem. Don't worry, now I will be in this thread until every organizer of Euromaidan is put on trial for murder.

Hey man, what happened is fucking horrible but everything that you say is just unbelievably opportunistic.

What I'm saying is 38 people are dead, trapped in a building that was set on fire with Molotov cocktails and the collective reaction of the western media is 'meh'.

Someone is going to pay for this. edit: and pay dearly


Should i go back in the thread an check if you were that adamant when the berkut intervention went out of hand, and hundreds were killed by the police?

I don't know if you even realize that you're even worse than PaleMan, at least he's honest about what he's thinking even if it's bs. You're worse, a hipocritical, opportunistic and proletic.. Well.

Nobody here is denying that 38 deaths is not acceptable, but for most people here it doesn't matter what side they're on. It's 38 people. We could pull a zeo and say "everything that happens now is their fault", do you see anybody doing that? No? Well. What a surprise.

Please go through the thread and quote were I said 70 people deserved to die. And answer why the media is so hesitant to say that the fire was started by molotov cocktails being thrown at and into the building?


They do. German media at least is talking about "criminal firestarters". So just fucking stop your stupid whiteknighting, you not only look ridiculous, you are wrong. About your first part: you didn't? So you also didn't say "they had it coming"?

edit: args, in the hurry doublepost, sry

German media? I'm talking about English media.

Go onto CNN. BBC and FOX... What do you see?

edit: Sky news has one paragraph, NBC has something about 31 people dieing but doesn't even state which side they are on
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 19:56:14
May 02 2014 19:40 GMT
#9375
On May 03 2014 04:25 Ghanburighan wrote:
Judicator, let's be honest here, some of these groups are not Russian backed, the Cossacks most certainly are. They've been fighting Putin's wars since Chechnya, and were active in Georgia too. And you're ignoring all of the support Putin is giving the troops by a) having an invasion force at the border, b) demanding the `separatists' are left alone or the invasion troop comes in, c) propaganda war, d) diplomatic efforts in the UN and Geneva in their support, e) advice and equipment provided to them and intercepted by various intelligence organization. Kerry made that one statement based on NYT information way back, but since then he's been emphasizing other support Russia is giving these people, and that's pretty much factual.

***
Something more that you might find interesting:
https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/462310731455946752

Oh, I'm certainly aware of these points of indirect support. I was mostly referring to direct, objective support though, as in money and arms. Surprising that has not happened, to be honest. Putin has not learned well enough from Uncle Sam, but the "creativity" of those other actions is certainly noteworthy. Best to be a swordsman with a rapier than an oaf with a club, I guess.

I'm not terribly interested in these military movements, because frankly they are terrifying. Even though the image was generated by a potato, it's still very clear to see what is going on here.

On May 03 2014 04:38 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2014 04:34 m4ini wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:31 zeo wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:25 m4ini wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:15 zeo wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:14 Shiragaku wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:07 zeo wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:03 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 03 2014 03:59 zeo wrote:
They will all fucking burn in hell, every single one of those Bandera shits and Chernomorets hooligans. They even stopped a fire truck coming to the scene and beat up the firefighters. Those fucking junta pigs will pay for this mass murder.

Arnt you cute when your angry. Where were you when people were getting tortured less then a week ago. Where were you when Madian protestors were tortured?

38 people, 38 civilians burned alive and your only comment is an ad hominem. Don't worry, now I will be in this thread until every organizer of Euromaidan is put on trial for murder.

Hey man, what happened is fucking horrible but everything that you say is just unbelievably opportunistic.

What I'm saying is 38 people are dead, trapped in a building that was set on fire with Molotov cocktails and the collective reaction of the western media is 'meh'.

Someone is going to pay for this. edit: and pay dearly


Should i go back in the thread an check if you were that adamant when the berkut intervention went out of hand, and hundreds were killed by the police?

I don't know if you even realize that you're even worse than PaleMan, at least he's honest about what he's thinking even if it's bs. You're worse, a hipocritical, opportunistic and proletic.. Well.

Nobody here is denying that 38 deaths is not acceptable, but for most people here it doesn't matter what side they're on. It's 38 people. We could pull a zeo and say "everything that happens now is their fault", do you see anybody doing that? No? Well. What a surprise.

Please go through the thread and quote were I said 70 people deserved to die. And answer why the media is so hesitant to say that the fire was started by molotov cocktails being thrown at and into the building?


They do. German media at least is talking about "criminal firestarters". So just fucking stop your stupid whiteknighting, you not only look ridiculous, you are wrong. About your first part: you didn't? So you also didn't say "they had it coming"?

edit: args, in the hurry doublepost, sry

German media? I'm talking about English media.

Go onto CNN. BBC and FOX... What do you see?

edit: Sky news has one paragraph, NBC has something about 31 people dieing but doesn't even state which side they are on

I am seeing it on some places, but please let us chill out a bit. This is a very frightening and dire situation, but let us not lose our composure.
AA.spoon
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium331 Posts
May 02 2014 19:46 GMT
#9376
On May 03 2014 04:38 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2014 04:34 m4ini wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:31 zeo wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:25 m4ini wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:15 zeo wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:14 Shiragaku wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:07 zeo wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:03 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 03 2014 03:59 zeo wrote:
They will all fucking burn in hell, every single one of those Bandera shits and Chernomorets hooligans. They even stopped a fire truck coming to the scene and beat up the firefighters. Those fucking junta pigs will pay for this mass murder.

Arnt you cute when your angry. Where were you when people were getting tortured less then a week ago. Where were you when Madian protestors were tortured?

38 people, 38 civilians burned alive and your only comment is an ad hominem. Don't worry, now I will be in this thread until every organizer of Euromaidan is put on trial for murder.

Hey man, what happened is fucking horrible but everything that you say is just unbelievably opportunistic.

What I'm saying is 38 people are dead, trapped in a building that was set on fire with Molotov cocktails and the collective reaction of the western media is 'meh'.

Someone is going to pay for this. edit: and pay dearly


Should i go back in the thread an check if you were that adamant when the berkut intervention went out of hand, and hundreds were killed by the police?

I don't know if you even realize that you're even worse than PaleMan, at least he's honest about what he's thinking even if it's bs. You're worse, a hipocritical, opportunistic and proletic.. Well.

Nobody here is denying that 38 deaths is not acceptable, but for most people here it doesn't matter what side they're on. It's 38 people. We could pull a zeo and say "everything that happens now is their fault", do you see anybody doing that? No? Well. What a surprise.

Please go through the thread and quote were I said 70 people deserved to die. And answer why the media is so hesitant to say that the fire was started by molotov cocktails being thrown at and into the building?


They do. German media at least is talking about "criminal firestarters". So just fucking stop your stupid whiteknighting, you not only look ridiculous, you are wrong. About your first part: you didn't? So you also didn't say "they had it coming"?

edit: args, in the hurry doublepost, sry

German media? I'm talking about English media.

Go onto CNN. BBC and FOX... What do you see?

edit: Sky news has one paragraph, NBC has something about 31 people dieing but doesn't even state which side they are on


It is on CNN (under breaking news). It is also in the belgian media since 15-30 min or so.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 19:51:04
May 02 2014 19:46 GMT
#9377
On May 03 2014 04:38 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2014 04:34 m4ini wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:31 zeo wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:25 m4ini wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:15 zeo wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:14 Shiragaku wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:07 zeo wrote:
On May 03 2014 04:03 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 03 2014 03:59 zeo wrote:
They will all fucking burn in hell, every single one of those Bandera shits and Chernomorets hooligans. They even stopped a fire truck coming to the scene and beat up the firefighters. Those fucking junta pigs will pay for this mass murder.

Arnt you cute when your angry. Where were you when people were getting tortured less then a week ago. Where were you when Madian protestors were tortured?

38 people, 38 civilians burned alive and your only comment is an ad hominem. Don't worry, now I will be in this thread until every organizer of Euromaidan is put on trial for murder.

Hey man, what happened is fucking horrible but everything that you say is just unbelievably opportunistic.

What I'm saying is 38 people are dead, trapped in a building that was set on fire with Molotov cocktails and the collective reaction of the western media is 'meh'.

Someone is going to pay for this. edit: and pay dearly


Should i go back in the thread an check if you were that adamant when the berkut intervention went out of hand, and hundreds were killed by the police?

I don't know if you even realize that you're even worse than PaleMan, at least he's honest about what he's thinking even if it's bs. You're worse, a hipocritical, opportunistic and proletic.. Well.

Nobody here is denying that 38 deaths is not acceptable, but for most people here it doesn't matter what side they're on. It's 38 people. We could pull a zeo and say "everything that happens now is their fault", do you see anybody doing that? No? Well. What a surprise.

Please go through the thread and quote were I said 70 people deserved to die. And answer why the media is so hesitant to say that the fire was started by molotov cocktails being thrown at and into the building?


They do. German media at least is talking about "criminal firestarters". So just fucking stop your stupid whiteknighting, you not only look ridiculous, you are wrong. About your first part: you didn't? So you also didn't say "they had it coming"?

edit: args, in the hurry doublepost, sry

German media? I'm talking about English media.

Go onto CNN. BBC and FOX... What do you see?

edit: Sky news has one paragraph, NBC has something about 31 people dieing but doesn't even state which side they are on


Reuters as well. And no. You were not talking about english media. You were talking about media. You forgot to tell that the ukrainian minstry said "they don't know how it started", and it gets cited. And so on, and so forth. But feel free to get your tinfoilhat out, the western media is again coming to get you.

edit: well, that tinfoil hat comment is maybe not needed, but man, get a bowl of water and park your balls in there. Yeah, FOXnews might not (no idea, would never read a media that supports politics) be unbiased, but that's far from hysterical "noone is telling the truth!".
On track to MA1950A.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 19:55:58
May 02 2014 19:54 GMT
#9378


***
Specially for Zeo:

Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 19:59:04
May 02 2014 19:58 GMT
#9379
Lol. Moderately amusing:
Rowrin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States280 Posts
May 02 2014 19:59 GMT
#9380
Not sure what is going on but sounds like the mob that tried to take over the city got ambushed by another angry mob. It's unfortunate that they got burned alive, but when you overthrow a local government and basically instate mob rule, you kinda get what you sow.
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