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Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
April 23 2014 06:40 GMT
#8861
Is that the same Stephen Cohen who regularly appears on RT?

Example 1
Example 2
Example 3

He's a well-known Kremlin stooge.

Check out his Pro-Kremlin spiel here.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Mc
Profile Joined March 2010
332 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-23 10:00:47
April 23 2014 09:51 GMT
#8862
http://ukrainianpolicy.com/insurgents-identified-the-green-men-of-vkontakte/

So the armed combatants are clearly not Russian special forces/army. A bunch are from Crimea, some are cossacks from Russia, a few locals too.

Obviously a few of them have far-right symbolism in their profiles, and swastikas etc.
5hh.gg
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-23 11:10:02
April 23 2014 11:03 GMT
#8863
On April 23 2014 18:51 Mc wrote:
http://ukrainianpolicy.com/insurgents-identified-the-green-men-of-vkontakte/

So the armed combatants are clearly not Russian special forces/army. A bunch are from Crimea, some are cossacks from Russia, a few locals too.

Obviously a few of them have far-right symbolism in their profiles, and swastikas etc.

Nunez was kind enough to point this out too a couple pages ago. I mean, it's no surprise. The guys are too clumsy, undisciplined, and ineffective to be Russian soldiers, or especially Russian special forces, not to mention gear and other things. Not to say there aren't Russian military elements present (as has already been evidenced), but nowhere near the degree that NYT and elsewhere seemed to be claiming.

The wanna-be Nazi guys are absolutely ridiculous. Maybe they forget why 8 million of their soldiers died 70 years ago. Also, a lot of these guys profiled seem like they think they're hot shit because they're carrying a rifle around. Seriously, they should get an education/job and do something useful rather than trying to play 1917 Revolution hero >_>
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
April 23 2014 11:17 GMT
#8864
On April 23 2014 15:40 Ghanburighan wrote:
Is that the same Stephen Cohen who regularly appears on RT?

Example 1
Example 2
Example 3

He's a well-known Kremlin stooge.

Check out his Pro-Kremlin spiel here.


another vacuous and completely worthless hatchet job.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
PaleMan
Profile Joined October 2002
Russian Federation1953 Posts
April 23 2014 12:39 GMT
#8865
for me Ghanburighan looks like some kind of forum bot
he just spits some biased tweets every hour or so
Pure fan
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-23 13:00:46
April 23 2014 12:58 GMT
#8866
haha. well, one time he didn't recognize a lord of the rings reference i made to him (his name is from lotr lore)... and then you also have lordtolkien and laughingtulkas... the plot thickens! ;>

i believe this is his third poor hatchet job so far in the thread, instead of engaging with the actual article/podcast (mark ames and robert parry as well). i wouldn't mind it so much if they had some actual substance, as f.ex robert parry tearing one of the writers of the 'russian soldiers in eastern ukraine' piece from the nyt apart. that was delicious.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
April 23 2014 12:59 GMT
#8867
On April 23 2014 21:39 PaleMan wrote:
for me Ghanburighan looks like some kind of forum bot
he just spits some biased tweets every hour or so


The irony is strong in this one!
dude bro.
PaleMan
Profile Joined October 2002
Russian Federation1953 Posts
April 23 2014 13:21 GMT
#8868
more proofs of russian army troops in Ukraine:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


User was warned for this post
Pure fan
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
April 23 2014 13:47 GMT
#8869
On April 23 2014 20:03 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2014 18:51 Mc wrote:
http://ukrainianpolicy.com/insurgents-identified-the-green-men-of-vkontakte/

So the armed combatants are clearly not Russian special forces/army. A bunch are from Crimea, some are cossacks from Russia, a few locals too.

Obviously a few of them have far-right symbolism in their profiles, and swastikas etc.

Nunez was kind enough to point this out too a couple pages ago. I mean, it's no surprise. The guys are too clumsy, undisciplined, and ineffective to be Russian soldiers, or especially Russian special forces, not to mention gear and other things. Not to say there aren't Russian military elements present (as has already been evidenced), but nowhere near the degree that NYT and elsewhere seemed to be claiming.

The wanna-be Nazi guys are absolutely ridiculous. Maybe they forget why 8 million of their soldiers died 70 years ago. Also, a lot of these guys profiled seem like they think they're hot shit because they're carrying a rifle around. Seriously, they should get an education/job and do something useful rather than trying to play 1917 Revolution hero >_>

These wannabes are exactly that product of post-Soviet E. Europe societies that Mc pointed out several pages earlier. No education, no proper job, bald heads, size of the weapon = size of the cock. Add to this plenty of spare time and there you go. We have similar low lifes in Poland - "Dresiarz" ( one that wears a tracksuit). They sit in front of blocks, drink beer, shout loudly and bother people passing by. All being in their 20-30s. The only difference is that they measure their dicks with muscules and shininess of their 30yr old cars.
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
April 23 2014 14:16 GMT
#8870
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/tally-of-persons-kidnapped-by-russian-backed-insurgents-in-ukraines-east-grows-to-13-update-344778.html

List of local politicians and foreign journalists kidnapped by pro-Russian separatists growing still. Some turning up tortured to death.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
April 23 2014 15:17 GMT
#8871
On April 23 2014 21:58 nunez wrote:
haha. well, one time he didn't recognize a lord of the rings reference i made to him (his name is from lotr lore)... and then you also have lordtolkien and laughingtulkas... the plot thickens! ;>

You rang?
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
April 23 2014 16:17 GMT
#8872
creepy...
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
norlock
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands918 Posts
April 23 2014 16:17 GMT
#8873
Russian bombers were signaled above the netherlands. They are seriously testing the defenses, response times of the european countries.
Are you human?
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 23 2014 16:23 GMT
#8874
On April 24 2014 01:17 norlock wrote:
Russian bombers were signaled above the netherlands. They are seriously testing the defenses, response times of the european countries.

I also heard Russians are in an alliance with the Zerg...
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
April 23 2014 16:42 GMT
#8875
On April 24 2014 01:17 norlock wrote:
Russian bombers were signaled above the netherlands. They are seriously testing the defenses, response times of the european countries.


http://time.com/73987/dutch-scramble-jets-after-russian-bombers-approach/

Dutch Scramble Jets After Russian Bombers Approach

(AMSTERDAM) — The Dutch defense department says several NATO member countries scrambled jets Wednesday afternoon after a pair of Russian bomber planes approached their airspace over the North Sea.

The Dutch ministry identified the planes as two Russian TU-95 Bears, and said it had launched two F-16s from Volkel air force base to intercept them. The Russian jets were escorted by aircraft from the Netherlands, Britain and Denmark until they departed.

Maj. Wilko Ter Horst said “that’s why we scrambled, that’s why the Danish scrambled and the English scrambled, to ensure to insure they fly out of our air space.”

The ministry statement said such incidents have occurred before, citing one from March 21 and another on Sept. 10 last year.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-23 16:54:52
April 23 2014 16:49 GMT
#8876
^ The Baltic airspace is tested regularly
Example 1

Example 2, 19th of March

Example 3

The reactions of other countries are also tested:

Turkey

Mock attack on Sweden

***

This sounds ominous



***

More Jewish Nazis:

Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
April 23 2014 16:51 GMT
#8877
On April 24 2014 01:17 norlock wrote:
Russian bombers were signaled above the netherlands. They are seriously testing the defenses, response times of the european countries.


Well that's as routine as anything. At least in NA the us and canada chase em out regularly.
dude bro.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
April 23 2014 17:00 GMT
#8878
So they're going to kill the vice guy? I imagine killing a US citizen won't go over too well for them. Then again, obama has shown time and again that he only has balls when dealing with his own citizens, when dealing with anyone outside the US he is spineless, so I doubt anything will happen even if they do kill him.. Sad though, I really liked the vice stuff.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
April 23 2014 17:03 GMT
#8879
So far they haven't killed anyone that the independent media reported as kidnapped by them. The publicity is Simon's best defense.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-23 17:16:11
April 23 2014 17:14 GMT
#8880
On April 24 2014 01:51 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2014 01:17 norlock wrote:
Russian bombers were signaled above the netherlands. They are seriously testing the defenses, response times of the european countries.


Well that's as routine as anything. At least in NA the us and canada chase em out regularly.

Yeah but the US and Canada don't have the relationship that russia has other nations in the region, keep a prize fighter sharp sorta deal instead of a well maybe that will work. It's sorta like suggesting north korea testing south koreas response times would be cosher, perhaps china and japan/s. korea would be a better example, esp giving russia's current activities. But yeah it's not that alarming sort like we all accept that nations attempt to hack each other/spy on each other.
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