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Russian Federation38 Posts
On March 06 2014 21:40 Acertos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 21:35 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:32 mahrgell wrote:On March 06 2014 21:20 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:13 Godwrath wrote:On March 06 2014 20:41 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 20:28 -Archangel- wrote:
Even if Russians are 58% (and those people don't just consider themselves Russian speaking Ukranians) it gives no rights for Russian military to invade.
And since when is every nationalist Nazi? By same logic both Russia and half of USA are Nazi. Did you read the history of Crimea? it was Russian region until 1954 year, when it was presented to Ukrain And 58% of population are exactly Russians, not Russian speaking Ukranians. And what kind of point is that one ? It is pretty simple: - Is Crimea Ukranian territory? Yes. - Is Ukrania a sovereign country? Yes. - Was there any danger for russians on Crimea? Nope. The excuses for occupation are laughable at best. Also, stop with the "but... but... the USA does this aswell!", because most posters in here call out when the USA does the same. It's kindergarden's logic, "i punched him because that other kid also punches other people!". of course you have all information, and know about how crimean tatars are ready at any time to cut all Russians in that region... would be a bloodbath if there no Russian army there at all. The tatars are the evil guys now? INVADE TURKEY!!!! erm... i meant ' protect turkey from it's own people' They are not civilized Europeans, and really they are very specific Muslim Nation. If you have no information about this how can you all judge this situation at all? So Russians are civilized europeans? Personally I think invading another country for no good reason is barbaric.
of course no we love to drink vodka, play balalaika and pet bears
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On March 06 2014 21:40 Acertos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 21:35 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:32 mahrgell wrote:On March 06 2014 21:20 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:13 Godwrath wrote:On March 06 2014 20:41 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 20:28 -Archangel- wrote:
Even if Russians are 58% (and those people don't just consider themselves Russian speaking Ukranians) it gives no rights for Russian military to invade.
And since when is every nationalist Nazi? By same logic both Russia and half of USA are Nazi. Did you read the history of Crimea? it was Russian region until 1954 year, when it was presented to Ukrain And 58% of population are exactly Russians, not Russian speaking Ukranians. And what kind of point is that one ? It is pretty simple: - Is Crimea Ukranian territory? Yes. - Is Ukrania a sovereign country? Yes. - Was there any danger for russians on Crimea? Nope. The excuses for occupation are laughable at best. Also, stop with the "but... but... the USA does this aswell!", because most posters in here call out when the USA does the same. It's kindergarden's logic, "i punched him because that other kid also punches other people!". of course you have all information, and know about how crimean tatars are ready at any time to cut all Russians in that region... would be a bloodbath if there no Russian army there at all. The tatars are the evil guys now? INVADE TURKEY!!!! erm... i meant ' protect turkey from it's own people' They are not civilized Europeans, and really they are very specific Muslim Nation. If you have no information about this how can you all judge this situation at all? So Russians are civilized europeans? Personally I think invading another country for no good reason is barbaric.
funny, since you are from france. a barbaric country by your own definition.
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On March 06 2014 21:44 Dlash23 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 21:40 Acertos wrote:On March 06 2014 21:35 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:32 mahrgell wrote:On March 06 2014 21:20 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:13 Godwrath wrote:On March 06 2014 20:41 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 20:28 -Archangel- wrote:
Even if Russians are 58% (and those people don't just consider themselves Russian speaking Ukranians) it gives no rights for Russian military to invade.
And since when is every nationalist Nazi? By same logic both Russia and half of USA are Nazi. Did you read the history of Crimea? it was Russian region until 1954 year, when it was presented to Ukrain And 58% of population are exactly Russians, not Russian speaking Ukranians. And what kind of point is that one ? It is pretty simple: - Is Crimea Ukranian territory? Yes. - Is Ukrania a sovereign country? Yes. - Was there any danger for russians on Crimea? Nope. The excuses for occupation are laughable at best. Also, stop with the "but... but... the USA does this aswell!", because most posters in here call out when the USA does the same. It's kindergarden's logic, "i punched him because that other kid also punches other people!". of course you have all information, and know about how crimean tatars are ready at any time to cut all Russians in that region... would be a bloodbath if there no Russian army there at all. The tatars are the evil guys now? INVADE TURKEY!!!! erm... i meant ' protect turkey from it's own people' They are not civilized Europeans, and really they are very specific Muslim Nation. If you have no information about this how can you all judge this situation at all? So Russians are civilized europeans? Personally I think invading another country for no good reason is barbaric. of course no we love to drink vodka, play balalaika and pet bears
On March 06 2014 21:17 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 21:16 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:10 zatic wrote:
The Russian mixture of "there is no invasion" and "... but the invasion is completely justified" is mind boggling. maybe because there is no invasion? Putin only allows the use of the army at the deteriorating situation in the region. I think it is completely justified cauz of military base there. So why are they not on said bases while there is nothing go on.
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Russian Federation38 Posts
On March 06 2014 21:45 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 21:44 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:40 Acertos wrote:On March 06 2014 21:35 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:32 mahrgell wrote:On March 06 2014 21:20 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:13 Godwrath wrote:On March 06 2014 20:41 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 20:28 -Archangel- wrote:
Even if Russians are 58% (and those people don't just consider themselves Russian speaking Ukranians) it gives no rights for Russian military to invade.
And since when is every nationalist Nazi? By same logic both Russia and half of USA are Nazi. Did you read the history of Crimea? it was Russian region until 1954 year, when it was presented to Ukrain And 58% of population are exactly Russians, not Russian speaking Ukranians. And what kind of point is that one ? It is pretty simple: - Is Crimea Ukranian territory? Yes. - Is Ukrania a sovereign country? Yes. - Was there any danger for russians on Crimea? Nope. The excuses for occupation are laughable at best. Also, stop with the "but... but... the USA does this aswell!", because most posters in here call out when the USA does the same. It's kindergarden's logic, "i punched him because that other kid also punches other people!". of course you have all information, and know about how crimean tatars are ready at any time to cut all Russians in that region... would be a bloodbath if there no Russian army there at all. The tatars are the evil guys now? INVADE TURKEY!!!! erm... i meant ' protect turkey from it's own people' They are not civilized Europeans, and really they are very specific Muslim Nation. If you have no information about this how can you all judge this situation at all? So Russians are civilized europeans? Personally I think invading another country for no good reason is barbaric. of course no we love to drink vodka, play balalaika and pet bears Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 21:17 Gorsameth wrote:On March 06 2014 21:16 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:10 zatic wrote:
The Russian mixture of "there is no invasion" and "... but the invasion is completely justified" is mind boggling. maybe because there is no invasion? Putin only allows the use of the army at the deteriorating situation in the region. I think it is completely justified cauz of military base there. So why are they not on said bases while there is nothing go on.
Maybe because Crimea's government asked for help, I don't know but they don't wanna shoot anyone or occupy this region at all
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On March 06 2014 21:49 Dlash23 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 21:45 Gorsameth wrote:On March 06 2014 21:44 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:40 Acertos wrote:On March 06 2014 21:35 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:32 mahrgell wrote:On March 06 2014 21:20 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:13 Godwrath wrote:On March 06 2014 20:41 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 20:28 -Archangel- wrote:
Even if Russians are 58% (and those people don't just consider themselves Russian speaking Ukranians) it gives no rights for Russian military to invade.
And since when is every nationalist Nazi? By same logic both Russia and half of USA are Nazi. Did you read the history of Crimea? it was Russian region until 1954 year, when it was presented to Ukrain And 58% of population are exactly Russians, not Russian speaking Ukranians. And what kind of point is that one ? It is pretty simple: - Is Crimea Ukranian territory? Yes. - Is Ukrania a sovereign country? Yes. - Was there any danger for russians on Crimea? Nope. The excuses for occupation are laughable at best. Also, stop with the "but... but... the USA does this aswell!", because most posters in here call out when the USA does the same. It's kindergarden's logic, "i punched him because that other kid also punches other people!". of course you have all information, and know about how crimean tatars are ready at any time to cut all Russians in that region... would be a bloodbath if there no Russian army there at all. The tatars are the evil guys now? INVADE TURKEY!!!! erm... i meant ' protect turkey from it's own people' They are not civilized Europeans, and really they are very specific Muslim Nation. If you have no information about this how can you all judge this situation at all? So Russians are civilized europeans? Personally I think invading another country for no good reason is barbaric. of course no we love to drink vodka, play balalaika and pet bears On March 06 2014 21:17 Gorsameth wrote:On March 06 2014 21:16 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:10 zatic wrote:
The Russian mixture of "there is no invasion" and "... but the invasion is completely justified" is mind boggling. maybe because there is no invasion? Putin only allows the use of the army at the deteriorating situation in the region. I think it is completely justified cauz of military base there. So why are they not on said bases while there is nothing go on. Maybe because Crimea's government asked for help, I don't know but they don't wanna shoot anyone or occupy this region at all
Latest referendum change of date and added question indicates the oppossite.
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On March 06 2014 21:49 Dlash23 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 21:45 Gorsameth wrote:On March 06 2014 21:44 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:40 Acertos wrote:On March 06 2014 21:35 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:32 mahrgell wrote:On March 06 2014 21:20 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:13 Godwrath wrote:On March 06 2014 20:41 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 20:28 -Archangel- wrote:
Even if Russians are 58% (and those people don't just consider themselves Russian speaking Ukranians) it gives no rights for Russian military to invade.
And since when is every nationalist Nazi? By same logic both Russia and half of USA are Nazi. Did you read the history of Crimea? it was Russian region until 1954 year, when it was presented to Ukrain And 58% of population are exactly Russians, not Russian speaking Ukranians. And what kind of point is that one ? It is pretty simple: - Is Crimea Ukranian territory? Yes. - Is Ukrania a sovereign country? Yes. - Was there any danger for russians on Crimea? Nope. The excuses for occupation are laughable at best. Also, stop with the "but... but... the USA does this aswell!", because most posters in here call out when the USA does the same. It's kindergarden's logic, "i punched him because that other kid also punches other people!". of course you have all information, and know about how crimean tatars are ready at any time to cut all Russians in that region... would be a bloodbath if there no Russian army there at all. The tatars are the evil guys now? INVADE TURKEY!!!! erm... i meant ' protect turkey from it's own people' They are not civilized Europeans, and really they are very specific Muslim Nation. If you have no information about this how can you all judge this situation at all? So Russians are civilized europeans? Personally I think invading another country for no good reason is barbaric. of course no we love to drink vodka, play balalaika and pet bears On March 06 2014 21:17 Gorsameth wrote:On March 06 2014 21:16 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:10 zatic wrote:
The Russian mixture of "there is no invasion" and "... but the invasion is completely justified" is mind boggling. maybe because there is no invasion? Putin only allows the use of the army at the deteriorating situation in the region. I think it is completely justified cauz of military base there. So why are they not on said bases while there is nothing go on. Maybe because Crimea's government asked for help, I don't know but they don't wanna shoot anyone or occupy this region at all
Again if they dont want to occupy why leave there bases? They would be doing the exact same thing if they were sitting in the base ready to react if it went wrong but without causing a major international incident.
There actions make no sense if they are there for protection.
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preemptive occupation.
US/EU knows what preemptive means.
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Russia says they are there on a peacekeeping mission but at the same time say they arent there. "Anyone can buy cloths and weapons that look like russian army cloths". Im afraid high level international politics is far too advanced for me to grasp.
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On March 06 2014 22:00 Fjodorov wrote:
Russia says they are there on a peacekeeping mission but at the same time say they arent there. "Anyone can buy cloths and weapons that look like russian army cloths". Im afraid high level international politics is far too advanced for me to grasp.
Nothing advanced about it. Everyone knows everyone else is talking bullshit in public.
The real politics are behind closed doors and is something we will never hear from.
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On March 06 2014 22:01 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:00 Fjodorov wrote:
Russia says they are there on a peacekeeping mission but at the same time say they arent there. "Anyone can buy cloths and weapons that look like russian army cloths". Im afraid high level international politics is far too advanced for me to grasp. Nothing advanced about it. Everyone knows everyone else is talking bullshit in public. The real politics are behind closed doors and is something we will never hear from.
Unless someone leaks the calls on youtube
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On March 06 2014 21:17 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 21:16 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:10 zatic wrote:
The Russian mixture of "there is no invasion" and "... but the invasion is completely justified" is mind boggling. maybe because there is no invasion? Putin only allows the use of the army at the deteriorating situation in the region. I think it is completely justified cauz of military base there. So why are they not on said bases while there is nothing go on.
I don't think its that simple, I am not 100% sure if its the same in Ukraine, but I used to live next to a Russian military base in Kazakhstan. All the soldiers stayed inside military base, but all the officers and their families lived in the towns nearby, and simply drove there for work. Only officers that had night duty stayed overnight.
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Russian Federation38 Posts
I'm not geopolitical expert and I think you too. And we didn't have all information to tell if it's all bad or good.
But the funniest thing is to see how you arguing about this. You who didn't know what Crimea is and where it is few months or weeks ago.
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On March 06 2014 22:02 kukarachaa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 21:17 Gorsameth wrote:On March 06 2014 21:16 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:10 zatic wrote:
The Russian mixture of "there is no invasion" and "... but the invasion is completely justified" is mind boggling. maybe because there is no invasion? Putin only allows the use of the army at the deteriorating situation in the region. I think it is completely justified cauz of military base there. So why are they not on said bases while there is nothing go on. I don't think its that simple, I am not 100% sure if its the same in Ukraine, but I used to live next to a Russian military base in Kazakhstan. All the soldiers stayed inside military base, but all the officers and their families lived in the towns nearby, and simply drove there for work. Only officers that had night duty stayed overnight.
That works for the normal base personal.
Not for the couple of thousand extra soldiers they transported in for this.
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On March 06 2014 22:02 kukarachaa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 21:17 Gorsameth wrote:On March 06 2014 21:16 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:10 zatic wrote:
The Russian mixture of "there is no invasion" and "... but the invasion is completely justified" is mind boggling. maybe because there is no invasion? Putin only allows the use of the army at the deteriorating situation in the region. I think it is completely justified cauz of military base there. So why are they not on said bases while there is nothing go on. I don't think its that simple, I am not 100% sure if its the same in Ukraine, but I used to live next to a Russian military base in Kazakhstan. All the soldiers stayed inside military base, but all the officers and their families lived in the towns nearby, and simply drove there for work. Only officers that had night duty stayed overnight.
Uh... It is like that with most bases on foreign soil. Guess why many German villages protested against the plans of the US, to reduce the number of bases in Germany... Because the local economy is quite happy, that the soldiers have to buy all their goods there etc...
But I doubt, the locals would appreciate it, if instead of a normal car, now the US soldiers come to the supermarket in their tanks and fully armed. And I doubt that is allowed  Neither in Germany, nor Kazachstan nor the Ukraine...
No one says, the soldiers have to stay in base... But combat equipment surely has to
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But back to updates:
OSCE monitors have been stopped by gunmen. Monitors said, they won't move back, but right now also can't get any further
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On March 06 2014 21:44 Dlash23 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 21:40 Acertos wrote:On March 06 2014 21:35 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:32 mahrgell wrote:On March 06 2014 21:20 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:13 Godwrath wrote:On March 06 2014 20:41 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 20:28 -Archangel- wrote:
Even if Russians are 58% (and those people don't just consider themselves Russian speaking Ukranians) it gives no rights for Russian military to invade.
And since when is every nationalist Nazi? By same logic both Russia and half of USA are Nazi. Did you read the history of Crimea? it was Russian region until 1954 year, when it was presented to Ukrain And 58% of population are exactly Russians, not Russian speaking Ukranians. And what kind of point is that one ? It is pretty simple: - Is Crimea Ukranian territory? Yes. - Is Ukrania a sovereign country? Yes. - Was there any danger for russians on Crimea? Nope. The excuses for occupation are laughable at best. Also, stop with the "but... but... the USA does this aswell!", because most posters in here call out when the USA does the same. It's kindergarden's logic, "i punched him because that other kid also punches other people!". of course you have all information, and know about how crimean tatars are ready at any time to cut all Russians in that region... would be a bloodbath if there no Russian army there at all. The tatars are the evil guys now? INVADE TURKEY!!!! erm... i meant ' protect turkey from it's own people' They are not civilized Europeans, and really they are very specific Muslim Nation. If you have no information about this how can you all judge this situation at all? So Russians are civilized europeans? Personally I think invading another country for no good reason is barbaric. of course no we love to drink vodka, play balalaika and pet bears
On March 06 2014 21:45 fleeze wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 21:40 Acertos wrote:On March 06 2014 21:35 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:32 mahrgell wrote:On March 06 2014 21:20 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:13 Godwrath wrote:On March 06 2014 20:41 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 20:28 -Archangel- wrote:
Even if Russians are 58% (and those people don't just consider themselves Russian speaking Ukranians) it gives no rights for Russian military to invade.
And since when is every nationalist Nazi? By same logic both Russia and half of USA are Nazi. Did you read the history of Crimea? it was Russian region until 1954 year, when it was presented to Ukrain And 58% of population are exactly Russians, not Russian speaking Ukranians. And what kind of point is that one ? It is pretty simple: - Is Crimea Ukranian territory? Yes. - Is Ukrania a sovereign country? Yes. - Was there any danger for russians on Crimea? Nope. The excuses for occupation are laughable at best. Also, stop with the "but... but... the USA does this aswell!", because most posters in here call out when the USA does the same. It's kindergarden's logic, "i punched him because that other kid also punches other people!". of course you have all information, and know about how crimean tatars are ready at any time to cut all Russians in that region... would be a bloodbath if there no Russian army there at all. The tatars are the evil guys now? INVADE TURKEY!!!! erm... i meant ' protect turkey from it's own people' They are not civilized Europeans, and really they are very specific Muslim Nation. If you have no information about this how can you all judge this situation at all? So Russians are civilized europeans? Personally I think invading another country for no good reason is barbaric. funny, since you are from france. a barbaric country by your own definition.
So we agree with each-other, plz dont say civilized europeans anymore.
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On March 06 2014 22:06 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 22:02 kukarachaa wrote:On March 06 2014 21:17 Gorsameth wrote:On March 06 2014 21:16 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:10 zatic wrote:
The Russian mixture of "there is no invasion" and "... but the invasion is completely justified" is mind boggling. maybe because there is no invasion? Putin only allows the use of the army at the deteriorating situation in the region. I think it is completely justified cauz of military base there. So why are they not on said bases while there is nothing go on. I don't think its that simple, I am not 100% sure if its the same in Ukraine, but I used to live next to a Russian military base in Kazakhstan. All the soldiers stayed inside military base, but all the officers and their families lived in the towns nearby, and simply drove there for work. Only officers that had night duty stayed overnight. That works for the normal base personal. Not for the couple of thousand extra soldiers they transported in for this.
I disagree, that's exactly what makes sense, if you want to provide extra safety for both military personal on the base, and people living around them that are most likely their families ( but like I said, I am not 100% sure, if its the same as the base I used to live next to in Kazakhstan )
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On March 06 2014 22:10 Acertos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 21:44 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:40 Acertos wrote:On March 06 2014 21:35 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:32 mahrgell wrote:On March 06 2014 21:20 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:13 Godwrath wrote:On March 06 2014 20:41 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 20:28 -Archangel- wrote:
Even if Russians are 58% (and those people don't just consider themselves Russian speaking Ukranians) it gives no rights for Russian military to invade.
And since when is every nationalist Nazi? By same logic both Russia and half of USA are Nazi. Did you read the history of Crimea? it was Russian region until 1954 year, when it was presented to Ukrain And 58% of population are exactly Russians, not Russian speaking Ukranians. And what kind of point is that one ? It is pretty simple: - Is Crimea Ukranian territory? Yes. - Is Ukrania a sovereign country? Yes. - Was there any danger for russians on Crimea? Nope. The excuses for occupation are laughable at best. Also, stop with the "but... but... the USA does this aswell!", because most posters in here call out when the USA does the same. It's kindergarden's logic, "i punched him because that other kid also punches other people!". of course you have all information, and know about how crimean tatars are ready at any time to cut all Russians in that region... would be a bloodbath if there no Russian army there at all. The tatars are the evil guys now? INVADE TURKEY!!!! erm... i meant ' protect turkey from it's own people' They are not civilized Europeans, and really they are very specific Muslim Nation. If you have no information about this how can you all judge this situation at all? So Russians are civilized europeans? Personally I think invading another country for no good reason is barbaric. of course no we love to drink vodka, play balalaika and pet bears Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 21:45 fleeze wrote:On March 06 2014 21:40 Acertos wrote:On March 06 2014 21:35 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:32 mahrgell wrote:On March 06 2014 21:20 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 21:13 Godwrath wrote:On March 06 2014 20:41 Dlash23 wrote:On March 06 2014 20:28 -Archangel- wrote:
Even if Russians are 58% (and those people don't just consider themselves Russian speaking Ukranians) it gives no rights for Russian military to invade.
And since when is every nationalist Nazi? By same logic both Russia and half of USA are Nazi. Did you read the history of Crimea? it was Russian region until 1954 year, when it was presented to Ukrain And 58% of population are exactly Russians, not Russian speaking Ukranians. And what kind of point is that one ? It is pretty simple: - Is Crimea Ukranian territory? Yes. - Is Ukrania a sovereign country? Yes. - Was there any danger for russians on Crimea? Nope. The excuses for occupation are laughable at best. Also, stop with the "but... but... the USA does this aswell!", because most posters in here call out when the USA does the same. It's kindergarden's logic, "i punched him because that other kid also punches other people!". of course you have all information, and know about how crimean tatars are ready at any time to cut all Russians in that region... would be a bloodbath if there no Russian army there at all. The tatars are the evil guys now? INVADE TURKEY!!!! erm... i meant ' protect turkey from it's own people' They are not civilized Europeans, and really they are very specific Muslim Nation. If you have no information about this how can you all judge this situation at all? So Russians are civilized europeans? Personally I think invading another country for no good reason is barbaric. funny, since you are from france. a barbaric country by your own definition. So we agree with each-other, plz dont say civilized europeans anymore.
in this case, i agree of course 
just wanted to avoid the hypocrisy to call russian barbaric while EU (and US lol) is saint, which is basically what our media is saying.
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Now also confirmed by the US:
USN missile destroyer ' Truxtun' (not sure of the exact ship class) will enter the Black sea.
Official reason is a long planned maneuver with the Romanian and Bulgarian navy forces.
Seriously, I'm slowly tired of all this 'We move all our troops into the region, but it is all long planned and certainly has nothing to do with the current situation' by all sides....
edit: just checked the ship, it is one of the following class: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arleigh_Burke_class_destroyer
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