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bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
April 08 2013 18:03 GMT
#61
Waded through a forest of flailing cocks to get here; what's going on?
Stay a while and listen || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354018
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 18:04:29
April 08 2013 18:04 GMT
#62
R1CH doesnt have the resources to fuck with Inori on his own. so its over basically. errybody go home.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
April 08 2013 18:04 GMT
#63
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DharmaTurtle
Profile Joined August 2010
United States283 Posts
April 08 2013 18:04 GMT
#64
I don't think you should have tried R1ch, especially if you only have 1 server. Now he's only more convicted.
I went from bronze to platinum in 3 awesome days.
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 18:05:58
April 08 2013 18:04 GMT
#65
Seems your router responds to ping which is bad, seems like I can saturate your upload. But yeah, since I can't simulate an actual DDoS with just one server I can't really take the bet. Don't feel like spending $20 at one of those shady sites .
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Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
April 08 2013 18:05 GMT
#66
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mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
April 08 2013 18:07 GMT
#67
inori > destiny fanboys
lisward
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Singapore959 Posts
April 08 2013 18:07 GMT
#68
On April 09 2013 03:05 Inori wrote:
Can you PM me the IP you're testing from?
I'm simultaneously spammed by about 50 other Destiny fan boys desperately trying something.

LOL well what kind of outcome did you expect....
Opinions are like phasers -- everybody ought to have one
Vaticination
Profile Joined April 2013
United States4 Posts
April 08 2013 18:07 GMT
#69
On April 09 2013 03:04 Inori wrote:
You're right, but it was a DoS.


Exactly. It was only a single server that managed to affect your ping. Now, as Rich said, imagine fifty or more of those all doing the same thing. Not too difficult to imagine, right? You can pay for access to a botnet off a site like HF and do that. Anyone with some extra cash and a desire to fuck with you can do it.
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
April 08 2013 18:07 GMT
#70
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Sir.Kimmel
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States785 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 18:09:27
April 08 2013 18:07 GMT
#71
On April 09 2013 02:49 PiQLiQ wrote:
After reading this and reading the reddit post. I suggest that both Inori and Sir.Kimmel finds a cave and crawl back in there. Because everything ur saying is false. I have many friends that got ddosd. I spent so much of my time listening to them and being a moral support when they were furious trying to protect themselves from it. I'm not saying that i'm an expert in this subject.

Someone linked this to me and i just had to say this because making up stories doesn't help future streamers.




Heh... I'm not wrong though. You cannot send syn packets to a router and kill the connection.. unless there is a misconfiguration or something is stupidly open. Point blank that is my statement. I am an expert in this field I hold several incident response certifications.

Can you send malformed packets? Yes... Can you potentially DoS someone through Skype? Sure... but just sending Syn packets to an external router.. will not work. I have worked with several large banks/fortune 500 on mitigation strategies. But Destiny, it's pretty easy to tell where I work.. I've posted numerous blogs of mine on this site.

I'm really not trying to get into an argument here, Destiny's guide is fine... if someone is attacking you through Skype, great simply run through a VPN. But I threw a few disclaimers into my statement, because I'm not sure how people are actually taking someone offline through skype... I would need to look at the logs and grab some pcaps to really be able to tell. Using my opinion I can tell you though, that if Skype is simply accepting a ton of traffic and it's flood your network, simply shutting off the program and clearing active connections would stop this attack after a few minutes. Keep in mind that you would have to wait for the connections to close but you wouldn't receive any additional traffic once Skype is closed. My entire point before I was rudely called out by one of the prominent personalities here, is that a simple syn flood will not take down a home connection, and that is a statement you weren't even bringing up Destiny so there was no point in attacking me. I did misspeak on the botnet though, I meant to say that I don't believe people are using a botnet which can be bought. It would be simple to code a tool to send consistent connections to one IP address over Skype, I would need to see some traffic but you could easily do it from one system, and simply run it through TOR... not hard.

I think this conversation does bring out a major flaw in the way Skype does work though. Interesting, I think I'll do some testing in a lab and post something up in the coming days.


Think before you post Destiny... I wasn't necessarily calling you out, I think some of your statements are misguided though, but your guide is helpful. I just don't necessarily think it's needed.
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Czarnodziej
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland624 Posts
April 08 2013 18:08 GMT
#72
On April 09 2013 03:05 Inori wrote:
Can you PM me the IP you're testing from?
I'm simultaneously spammed by about 50 other Destiny fan boys desperately trying something.

You revealed your IP here. Is this surprising that random ppl want to take you down since you made it 10 times easier for them?
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 18:14:08
April 08 2013 18:08 GMT
#73
wait, im confused.

so the fanboys of the guy who wrote the anti-fucking-with-people-guide (technical name) are now trying to fuck with Inori?

how does that make any goddamn sense?
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
April 08 2013 18:09 GMT
#74
On April 09 2013 03:08 PassiveAce wrote:
wait, im confused.

so the fanboys of the guy who wrote the anti-fucking-with-people-guide (technical name) are now trying to fuck with Inori?

how does that make any goddamn sense?

Insert Dark Knight quote here
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
April 08 2013 18:09 GMT
#75
On April 09 2013 03:08 PassiveAce wrote:
wait, im confused.

so the fanboys of the guy who wrote the anti-fucking-with-people-guide (technical name) are now trying to fuck with Inori?

how does that make any goddamn sense?


None of it makes any sense. Do yourself a favor, just leave. Get out while you still can. Forget about us and everything you've seen today for we are already lost.
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Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
April 08 2013 18:13 GMT
#76
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R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
April 08 2013 18:14 GMT
#77
I don't wanna go there, you're welcome to test one on yourself though .

Basically neither myself nor Destiny have the resources to take this bet without actually using one of the "rent-a-botnet" sites. Inori has a 100mbps connection which can absorb most single DoS attacks (not DDoS). So this thread basically comes down to "I have a good internet connection", if this was a 20mbps or slower connection like is more common among home users, it would definitely feel the impact from a single DoS attack.
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Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 18:21:35
April 08 2013 18:15 GMT
#78
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MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
April 08 2013 18:17 GMT
#79
On April 09 2013 02:47 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 02:46 ZRand wrote:
I thought that this was illegal.

Technically, not when the "victim" agrees, for test purposes.


In Hentai rape logic, You just have to keep on doing it until they like it. Then its no longer rape and thus no longer illegal.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
shobecool
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2 Posts
April 08 2013 18:18 GMT
#80
On April 09 2013 03:14 R1CH wrote:
I don't wanna go there, you're welcome to test one on yourself though .

Basically neither myself nor Destiny have the resources to take this bet without actually using one of the "rent-a-botnet" sites. Inori has a 100mbps connection which can absorb most single DoS attacks (not DDoS). So this thread basically comes down to "I have a good internet connection", if this was a 20mbps or slower connection like is more common among home users, it would definitely feel the impact from a single DoS attack.


So what you are saying is that Inori is wrong and Destiny is right.

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