Why not Treat APM like weight classes? - Page 8

gingerfluffmuff

Austria4570 Posts

March 12 2013 08:31 GMT

#141

The apm of a player shouldnt be shown at all in the official sc2 client IMO. It suggests apm=skill to viewers when talked about, spamming commands in game and the measurement is messed up. (Other side effects: this thread, things like apmalert, etc.)
Please patch that thing out of the client Blizz!

Martacus

25 Posts

March 12 2013 08:41 GMT

#142

Furthermore to the points above me, it'd be impossible to police or even categorise.

APM varies. Heavily. My apm varies with intensity of game, length of game, which race I get (I play random) and all sorts, to the point where it varies between about 80-110, which would be a very broad category. If someone 2raxes/2gates me or something, then my apm is likely to be in the 150+ region for the start of the game. If I was in, say, a 80-120 APM class (which is very broad to start with), would I now be disqualified for playing above my category? It'd be like a boxer being weighed 12 months before, taking a ton of steroids and eating loads, putting on 20kg of muscle and then still fighting the same guy.

Also, you could play intentionally with a lower APM and just own every tournament cos you'd play against really bad players compared to yourself. Imagine Life or Creator etc playing at 40apm. Yeah, wouldnt be great to watch, but you can be damn sure their 40apm will be better than anyone elses!

I just don't think this is even slightly viable, there are so many holes in it as an idea.

sickthink

United States60 Posts

March 12 2013 08:55 GMT

#143

I disagree with you ginger. I think it's funny when specifically ST_Legend does it in GSL. Usually at the beginning of the game, where it is all just spam, and there is a huge disparity in APM #s. Notably I remember when one of the recent foreigners played in the GSL either Grubby, Mana or Stephano and it was like around 115(foreigner) to 320-400(korean), and then all you hear is the Korean casters in the background: "ooOooOoOOoo!!!" They might have a different obs than the english cast though, hard to say what they were really ooing at. But he did go back to the APM tab later that game and they were much more even.

BoggieMan

520 Posts

March 12 2013 09:00 GMT

#144

Apm dosen't give an advantage among professional players, weight does.

MateShade

Australia736 Posts

March 12 2013 09:04 GMT

#145

Lol. No.

Yorbon

Netherlands4272 Posts

March 12 2013 09:08 GMT

#146

How would you regulate that in game?

roym899

Germany426 Posts

March 12 2013 09:13 GMT

#147

I think a pro player would have no problem playing pretty decent with 40 apm or atleast with a ton less apm then they do. Just stop all the spamming and many of them already have half the apm most of the time.

pOnarreT

155 Posts

March 12 2013 09:27 GMT

#148

On March 12 2013 03:46 Don.681 wrote:
@USV
Yes, just like weight has nothing to with skill. But, a decent Flyweight Boxer wont stand a chance against a decent Heavyweight (they have the same "skill"), that's why they are separated by weight classes.

In the same way, a decent guy playing at 40APM wont stand a chance against a decent guy playing at 300 APM.

@Befree
Imagine a kiddie tournament with a savant kid dominating at 300+ APM. That wont be fun to watch for their parents, but imagine one where a limit is imposed. That savant kid would be at a pro or semi-pro league, and we can have some little-league competition where the kids would be happy.

I imagine, there would be a standard, coming out for the 40APM crowd in a few months.

Ah yea right, you have 400 apm but dumb decision making... much like your post: fast but dumb

EvilTeletubby

Baltimore, USA22258 Posts

March 12 2013 09:31 GMT

#149

What the hell? Fucking... no.

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