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On March 03 2013 16:34 ViktorSC wrote:
IGN doesn't owe anyone anything. If they haven't said anything then there is nothing to say. This makes TeamLiquid.net look like a mob, not a community.
Yeah what are you talking about? People have taken vacation time, booked hotels, and paid for airfare. You're crazy if you think they shouldn't be given as much time as possible to cancel if there is even a small chance that this isn't going to happen.
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On March 03 2013 16:48 ViktorSC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 16:37 holy_war wrote:On March 03 2013 16:34 ViktorSC wrote:
IGN doesn't owe anyone anything. If they haven't said anything then there is nothing to say. This makes TeamLiquid.net look like a mob, not a community. They don't owe the people who already bought plane tickets+ hotels anything? Did they cancel? Because until they do, they don't. If a company with a new owner is suddenly confronted by a bunch of aggro online bullies, I dont really see anyone buying IPL. This is not about "aggro online bullies", this is about people who spent a lot of money to get to IPL and may have a very limited amount of time to cancel or not.
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On March 03 2013 16:50 Reborn58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 16:34 ViktorSC wrote:
IGN doesn't owe anyone anything. If they haven't said anything then there is nothing to say. This makes TeamLiquid.net look like a mob, not a community. Yeah what are you talking about? People have taken vacation time, booked hotels, and paid for airfare. You're crazy if you think they shouldn't be given as much time as possible to cancel if there is even a small chance that this isn't going to happen.
eSport's business is not the most stable business there is. If a company is suddenly bought there is not much that can be done. Is it your fault for going to IPL instead of MLG? Maybe. Did you bet on the wrong pony? It's a possibility. All I'm saying is IPL has a really ugly logo so what can you really do, starting a rumor and getting everyone riled up isn't going to help. Thousands of angry StarCraft fans won't save your tournament. Why don't you start a petition or start a kickstarter and buy it yourself, that's what the internet is for. Punking a small company around that was already struggling in the first place isn't gonna make things better, you are hurting eSports.
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On March 03 2013 16:59 ViktorSC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 16:50 Reborn58 wrote:On March 03 2013 16:34 ViktorSC wrote:
IGN doesn't owe anyone anything. If they haven't said anything then there is nothing to say. This makes TeamLiquid.net look like a mob, not a community. Yeah what are you talking about? People have taken vacation time, booked hotels, and paid for airfare. You're crazy if you think they shouldn't be given as much time as possible to cancel if there is even a small chance that this isn't going to happen. eSport's business is not the most stable business there is. If a company is suddenly bought there is not much that can be done. Is it your fault for going to IPL instead of MLG? Maybe. Did you bet on the wrong pony? It's a possibility. All I'm saying is IPL has a really ugly logo so what can you really do, starting a rumor and getting everyone riled up isn't going to help. Thousands of angry StarCraft fans won't save your tournament. Why don't you start a petition or start a kickstarter and buy it yourself, that's what the internet is for. Punking a small company around that was already struggling in the first place isn't gonna make things better, you are hurting eSports.
I'm always fascinated by the never ending stream of people that are called out online for a completely unreasonable position ...
That then come back in the thread, and bend over backwards trying to save face on the original absurd position.
This company planned a big event that is potentially costly for a lot of people.
You are saying that this company (any company) -- should NOT immediately address rumors of a potential cancellation on behalf of people that may have already payed money to attend? Under just about any circumstances?
Ok.
No, this is hilarious. Please continue to rationalize your original post. I'm getting out the popcorn ...
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Well at least if IPL is dead, we don't have to put up with another WoL tournament.
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Sweden33719 Posts
On March 03 2013 16:59 ViktorSC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 16:50 Reborn58 wrote:On March 03 2013 16:34 ViktorSC wrote:
IGN doesn't owe anyone anything. If they haven't said anything then there is nothing to say. This makes TeamLiquid.net look like a mob, not a community. Yeah what are you talking about? People have taken vacation time, booked hotels, and paid for airfare. You're crazy if you think they shouldn't be given as much time as possible to cancel if there is even a small chance that this isn't going to happen. eSport's business is not the most stable business there is. If a company is suddenly bought there is not much that can be done. Is it your fault for going to IPL instead of MLG? Maybe. Did you bet on the wrong pony? It's a possibility. All I'm saying is IPL has a really ugly logo so what can you really do, starting a rumor and getting everyone riled up isn't going to help. Thousands of angry StarCraft fans won't save your tournament. Why don't you start a petition or start a kickstarter and buy it yourself, that's what the internet is for. Punking a small company around that was already struggling in the first place isn't gonna make things better, you are hurting eSports.
What the fuck are you even trying to say in this post? Its not even close to coherent.
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On March 03 2013 17:07 Von wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 16:59 ViktorSC wrote:On March 03 2013 16:50 Reborn58 wrote:On March 03 2013 16:34 ViktorSC wrote:
IGN doesn't owe anyone anything. If they haven't said anything then there is nothing to say. This makes TeamLiquid.net look like a mob, not a community. Yeah what are you talking about? People have taken vacation time, booked hotels, and paid for airfare. You're crazy if you think they shouldn't be given as much time as possible to cancel if there is even a small chance that this isn't going to happen. eSport's business is not the most stable business there is. If a company is suddenly bought there is not much that can be done. Is it your fault for going to IPL instead of MLG? Maybe. Did you bet on the wrong pony? It's a possibility. All I'm saying is IPL has a really ugly logo so what can you really do, starting a rumor and getting everyone riled up isn't going to help. Thousands of angry StarCraft fans won't save your tournament. Why don't you start a petition or start a kickstarter and buy it yourself, that's what the internet is for. Punking a small company around that was already struggling in the first place isn't gonna make things better, you are hurting eSports. I'm always fascinated by the never ending stream of people that are called out online for a completely unreasonable position ... That then come back in the thread, and bend over backwards trying to save face on the original absurd position. This company planned a big event that is potentially costly for a lot of people. You are saying that this company (any company) -- should NOT immediately address rumors of a potential cancellation on behalf of people that may have already payed money to attend? Under just about any circumstances? Ok. No, this is hilarious. Please continue to rationalize your original post. I'm getting out the popcorn ...
You just said "rumors." Are you in high school where rumors still hold value over your life? They are just rumors.
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This has become a shit storm.
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He sort of has a point... Dragging a companies name through the mud when they are relatively small and already struggling over rumours doesn't make "esports" look good to investors. I mean think of how much bull shit happens in the community already every week there is another retarded drama. Why would some business man who is 50 years old and can barely understand the internet feel safe putting his money into gaming companies when some sudden slight can cause a massive shit storm.
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On March 03 2013 17:11 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 16:59 ViktorSC wrote:On March 03 2013 16:50 Reborn58 wrote:On March 03 2013 16:34 ViktorSC wrote:
IGN doesn't owe anyone anything. If they haven't said anything then there is nothing to say. This makes TeamLiquid.net look like a mob, not a community. Yeah what are you talking about? People have taken vacation time, booked hotels, and paid for airfare. You're crazy if you think they shouldn't be given as much time as possible to cancel if there is even a small chance that this isn't going to happen. eSport's business is not the most stable business there is. If a company is suddenly bought there is not much that can be done. Is it your fault for going to IPL instead of MLG? Maybe. Did you bet on the wrong pony? It's a possibility. All I'm saying is IPL has a really ugly logo so what can you really do, starting a rumor and getting everyone riled up isn't going to help. Thousands of angry StarCraft fans won't save your tournament. Why don't you start a petition or start a kickstarter and buy it yourself, that's what the internet is for. Punking a small company around that was already struggling in the first place isn't gonna make things better, you are hurting eSports. What the fuck are you even trying to say in this post? Its not even close to coherent.
Hey Jinro, relax, don't fucking slap me. See the comment above me. Here in United States we are allowed to write how we speak. Nothing to lose hair about.
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On March 03 2013 17:23 ViktorSC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 17:11 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On March 03 2013 16:59 ViktorSC wrote:On March 03 2013 16:50 Reborn58 wrote:On March 03 2013 16:34 ViktorSC wrote:
IGN doesn't owe anyone anything. If they haven't said anything then there is nothing to say. This makes TeamLiquid.net look like a mob, not a community. Yeah what are you talking about? People have taken vacation time, booked hotels, and paid for airfare. You're crazy if you think they shouldn't be given as much time as possible to cancel if there is even a small chance that this isn't going to happen. eSport's business is not the most stable business there is. If a company is suddenly bought there is not much that can be done. Is it your fault for going to IPL instead of MLG? Maybe. Did you bet on the wrong pony? It's a possibility. All I'm saying is IPL has a really ugly logo so what can you really do, starting a rumor and getting everyone riled up isn't going to help. Thousands of angry StarCraft fans won't save your tournament. Why don't you start a petition or start a kickstarter and buy it yourself, that's what the internet is for. Punking a small company around that was already struggling in the first place isn't gonna make things better, you are hurting eSports. What the fuck are you even trying to say in this post? Its not even close to coherent. Hey Jinro, relax, don't fucking slap me. See the comment above me. Here in United States we are allowed to write how we speak. Nothing to lose hair about.
No, you're actually just a terrible poster, and you should stop embarrassing yourself.
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On March 03 2013 17:23 ViktorSC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 17:11 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On March 03 2013 16:59 ViktorSC wrote:On March 03 2013 16:50 Reborn58 wrote:On March 03 2013 16:34 ViktorSC wrote:
IGN doesn't owe anyone anything. If they haven't said anything then there is nothing to say. This makes TeamLiquid.net look like a mob, not a community. Yeah what are you talking about? People have taken vacation time, booked hotels, and paid for airfare. You're crazy if you think they shouldn't be given as much time as possible to cancel if there is even a small chance that this isn't going to happen. eSport's business is not the most stable business there is. If a company is suddenly bought there is not much that can be done. Is it your fault for going to IPL instead of MLG? Maybe. Did you bet on the wrong pony? It's a possibility. All I'm saying is IPL has a really ugly logo so what can you really do, starting a rumor and getting everyone riled up isn't going to help. Thousands of angry StarCraft fans won't save your tournament. Why don't you start a petition or start a kickstarter and buy it yourself, that's what the internet is for. Punking a small company around that was already struggling in the first place isn't gonna make things better, you are hurting eSports. What the fuck are you even trying to say in this post? Its not even close to coherent. Hey Jinro, relax, don't fucking slap me. See the comment above me. Here in United States we are allowed to write how we speak. Nothing to lose hair about.
no, your post actually wasn't coherent. it made my brain hurt.
and no they aren't just rumors. They canceled a LoL qualifier. Thats not a rumor. Its a fact. They are sending sponsors their product back. Thats a fact.
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On March 03 2013 17:26 Zenbrez wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 17:23 ViktorSC wrote:On March 03 2013 17:11 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On March 03 2013 16:59 ViktorSC wrote:On March 03 2013 16:50 Reborn58 wrote:On March 03 2013 16:34 ViktorSC wrote:
IGN doesn't owe anyone anything. If they haven't said anything then there is nothing to say. This makes TeamLiquid.net look like a mob, not a community. Yeah what are you talking about? People have taken vacation time, booked hotels, and paid for airfare. You're crazy if you think they shouldn't be given as much time as possible to cancel if there is even a small chance that this isn't going to happen. eSport's business is not the most stable business there is. If a company is suddenly bought there is not much that can be done. Is it your fault for going to IPL instead of MLG? Maybe. Did you bet on the wrong pony? It's a possibility. All I'm saying is IPL has a really ugly logo so what can you really do, starting a rumor and getting everyone riled up isn't going to help. Thousands of angry StarCraft fans won't save your tournament. Why don't you start a petition or start a kickstarter and buy it yourself, that's what the internet is for. Punking a small company around that was already struggling in the first place isn't gonna make things better, you are hurting eSports. What the fuck are you even trying to say in this post? Its not even close to coherent. Hey Jinro, relax, don't fucking slap me. See the comment above me. Here in United States we are allowed to write how we speak. Nothing to lose hair about. No, you're actually just a terrible poster, and you should stop embarrassing yourself.
He's a troll; Let him stay hungry.
On topic: It's customary for a business to react to "rumors" like this. If they do not do this guess what happens. That said; These "shit storms" are bigger in our heads than in those of any potential buyers imo. If someone thinks he can make money of of this I don't think they'll care too much about threads like this.
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On March 03 2013 17:33 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 17:23 ViktorSC wrote:On March 03 2013 17:11 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On March 03 2013 16:59 ViktorSC wrote:On March 03 2013 16:50 Reborn58 wrote:On March 03 2013 16:34 ViktorSC wrote:
IGN doesn't owe anyone anything. If they haven't said anything then there is nothing to say. This makes TeamLiquid.net look like a mob, not a community. Yeah what are you talking about? People have taken vacation time, booked hotels, and paid for airfare. You're crazy if you think they shouldn't be given as much time as possible to cancel if there is even a small chance that this isn't going to happen. eSport's business is not the most stable business there is. If a company is suddenly bought there is not much that can be done. Is it your fault for going to IPL instead of MLG? Maybe. Did you bet on the wrong pony? It's a possibility. All I'm saying is IPL has a really ugly logo so what can you really do, starting a rumor and getting everyone riled up isn't going to help. Thousands of angry StarCraft fans won't save your tournament. Why don't you start a petition or start a kickstarter and buy it yourself, that's what the internet is for. Punking a small company around that was already struggling in the first place isn't gonna make things better, you are hurting eSports. What the fuck are you even trying to say in this post? Its not even close to coherent. Hey Jinro, relax, don't fucking slap me. See the comment above me. Here in United States we are allowed to write how we speak. Nothing to lose hair about. no, your post actually wasn't coherent. it made my brain hurt. and no they aren't just rumors. They canceled a LoL qualifier. Thats not a rumor. Its a fact. They are sending sponsors their product back. Thats a fact.
I am not a poster or here to solve anyone's problems. Just because LoL is canceled or because Doa is not casting does that mean that IPL6 is cancelled as well. What if the new owners all of a sudden want to bring back John Madden as the new face of eSports and partner with Pirelli Tires or something and make the best tournament this side of the atlantic. We just don't know. All these posts are embarrassing me, as a StarCraft fan and eSports fan. Where is the positivity? Where is the love? Where is the optimism? If I made your brain hurt maybe you are reading into this situation just a little bit too excessively.
I don't know all the facts but I am just getting tired of all the attacking. Have some patience. There is an expansion, for a relatively new game out this month. Let's be happy with what we have and if you can't afford to not know because of vacation time then don't go, just don't tell 50,000 people about it.
The comment below me; Makes sense. If you have store credit at a Blockbuster that has closed down, why would you break into the empty plot of land that once was and argue with yourself? It's not attractive and if enough people do it no one will rent videos in that location, ever.
P.S. Maybe it's just all this pent up excitement for this new game that has me feeling really assertive but when i get drunk or really excited I do one thing. And that is smack talk, but still... Let's remember that IPL5 was really cool and awesome. No reason why it couldn't happen again.
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IPL has always responded quickly in the past, David Ting and his team have earned my respect as people who will do everything in their power to do esports right. I could be naive, but I just don't buy that the whole group changed character overnight.
But I don't think they have a voice anymore. My suspicion is that their new owners have shut them up.
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On March 03 2013 17:47 ViktorSC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 17:33 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 03 2013 17:23 ViktorSC wrote:On March 03 2013 17:11 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On March 03 2013 16:59 ViktorSC wrote:On March 03 2013 16:50 Reborn58 wrote:On March 03 2013 16:34 ViktorSC wrote:
IGN doesn't owe anyone anything. If they haven't said anything then there is nothing to say. This makes TeamLiquid.net look like a mob, not a community. Yeah what are you talking about? People have taken vacation time, booked hotels, and paid for airfare. You're crazy if you think they shouldn't be given as much time as possible to cancel if there is even a small chance that this isn't going to happen. eSport's business is not the most stable business there is. If a company is suddenly bought there is not much that can be done. Is it your fault for going to IPL instead of MLG? Maybe. Did you bet on the wrong pony? It's a possibility. All I'm saying is IPL has a really ugly logo so what can you really do, starting a rumor and getting everyone riled up isn't going to help. Thousands of angry StarCraft fans won't save your tournament. Why don't you start a petition or start a kickstarter and buy it yourself, that's what the internet is for. Punking a small company around that was already struggling in the first place isn't gonna make things better, you are hurting eSports. What the fuck are you even trying to say in this post? Its not even close to coherent. Hey Jinro, relax, don't fucking slap me. See the comment above me. Here in United States we are allowed to write how we speak. Nothing to lose hair about. no, your post actually wasn't coherent. it made my brain hurt. and no they aren't just rumors. They canceled a LoL qualifier. Thats not a rumor. Its a fact. They are sending sponsors their product back. Thats a fact. [ ... ] I don't know all the facts but I am just getting tired of all the attacking. Have some patience. There is an expansion, for a relatively new game out this month. Let's be happy with what we have and if you can't afford to not know because of vacation time then don't go, just don't tell 50,000 people about it.
This is not about some fan who can or cannot go 'because of vacation time'. Don't you understand all the players spend great amounts of time and money on this tournament (practice, hotel, flight), and it is very important for them to get clarity on this situation as soon as possible? Yes it is a rumor, so if IGN would have just responded with an official statement quickly there would not have been such a big fuss about it.
It's cool that you want everybody to just 'be happy with what we have' but that's completely irrelevant to this situation where people invest real time and money into something that might not actually take place. This is not your f-cking fantasy world where everything does not matter and everybody smiles 24/7.
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On March 03 2013 17:47 ViktorSC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 17:33 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 03 2013 17:23 ViktorSC wrote:On March 03 2013 17:11 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On March 03 2013 16:59 ViktorSC wrote:On March 03 2013 16:50 Reborn58 wrote:On March 03 2013 16:34 ViktorSC wrote:
IGN doesn't owe anyone anything. If they haven't said anything then there is nothing to say. This makes TeamLiquid.net look like a mob, not a community. Yeah what are you talking about? People have taken vacation time, booked hotels, and paid for airfare. You're crazy if you think they shouldn't be given as much time as possible to cancel if there is even a small chance that this isn't going to happen. eSport's business is not the most stable business there is. If a company is suddenly bought there is not much that can be done. Is it your fault for going to IPL instead of MLG? Maybe. Did you bet on the wrong pony? It's a possibility. All I'm saying is IPL has a really ugly logo so what can you really do, starting a rumor and getting everyone riled up isn't going to help. Thousands of angry StarCraft fans won't save your tournament. Why don't you start a petition or start a kickstarter and buy it yourself, that's what the internet is for. Punking a small company around that was already struggling in the first place isn't gonna make things better, you are hurting eSports. What the fuck are you even trying to say in this post? Its not even close to coherent. Hey Jinro, relax, don't fucking slap me. See the comment above me. Here in United States we are allowed to write how we speak. Nothing to lose hair about. no, your post actually wasn't coherent. it made my brain hurt. and no they aren't just rumors. They canceled a LoL qualifier. Thats not a rumor. Its a fact. They are sending sponsors their product back. Thats a fact. I am not a poster or here to solve anyone's problems. Just because LoL is canceled or because Doa is not casting does that mean that IPL6 is cancelled as well. What if the new owners all of a sudden want to bring back John Madden as the new face of eSports and partner with Pirelli Tires or something and make the best tournament this side of the atlantic. We just don't know. All these posts are embarrassing me, as a StarCraft fan and eSports fan. Where is the positivity? Where is the love? Where is the optimism? If I made your brain hurt maybe you are reading into this situation just a little bit too excessively. I don't know all the facts but I am just getting tired of all the attacking. Have some patience. There is an expansion, for a relatively new game out this month. Let's be happy with what we have and if you can't afford to not know because of vacation time then don't go, just don't tell 50,000 people about it.
once again you are just rambling on and aren't very coherent.
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On March 03 2013 17:47 ViktorSC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 17:33 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 03 2013 17:23 ViktorSC wrote:On March 03 2013 17:11 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On March 03 2013 16:59 ViktorSC wrote:On March 03 2013 16:50 Reborn58 wrote:On March 03 2013 16:34 ViktorSC wrote:
IGN doesn't owe anyone anything. If they haven't said anything then there is nothing to say. This makes TeamLiquid.net look like a mob, not a community. Yeah what are you talking about? People have taken vacation time, booked hotels, and paid for airfare. You're crazy if you think they shouldn't be given as much time as possible to cancel if there is even a small chance that this isn't going to happen. eSport's business is not the most stable business there is. If a company is suddenly bought there is not much that can be done. Is it your fault for going to IPL instead of MLG? Maybe. Did you bet on the wrong pony? It's a possibility. All I'm saying is IPL has a really ugly logo so what can you really do, starting a rumor and getting everyone riled up isn't going to help. Thousands of angry StarCraft fans won't save your tournament. Why don't you start a petition or start a kickstarter and buy it yourself, that's what the internet is for. Punking a small company around that was already struggling in the first place isn't gonna make things better, you are hurting eSports. What the fuck are you even trying to say in this post? Its not even close to coherent. Hey Jinro, relax, don't fucking slap me. See the comment above me. Here in United States we are allowed to write how we speak. Nothing to lose hair about. no, your post actually wasn't coherent. it made my brain hurt. and no they aren't just rumors. They canceled a LoL qualifier. Thats not a rumor. Its a fact. They are sending sponsors their product back. Thats a fact. I am not a poster or here to solve anyone's problems. Just because LoL is canceled or because Doa is not casting does that mean that IPL6 is cancelled as well. What if the new owners all of a sudden want to bring back John Madden as the new face of eSports and partner with Pirelli Tires or something and make the best tournament this side of the atlantic. We just don't know. All these posts are embarrassing me, as a StarCraft fan and eSports fan. Where is the positivity? Where is the love? Where is the optimism? If I made your brain hurt maybe you are reading into this situation just a little bit too excessively. I don't know all the facts but I am just getting tired of all the attacking. Have some patience. There is an expansion, for a relatively new game out this month. Let's be happy with what we have and if you can't afford to not know because of vacation time then don't go, just don't tell 50,000 people about it. The comment below me; Makes sense. If you have store credit at a Blockbuster that has closed down, why would you break into the empty plot of land that once was and argue with yourself? It's not attractive and if enough people do it no one will rent videos in that location, ever. P.S. Maybe it's just all this pent up excitement for this new game that has me feeling really assertive but when i get drunk or really excited I do one thing. And that is smack talk, but still... Let's remember that IPL5 was really cool and awesome. No reason why it couldn't happen again.
No, your posts seriously make no sense.
IPL6 is canceled. IPL is screwing people over with their unprofessional stance to all of this. It's been TWO DAYS since this news was leaked and still they have not made a statement. People have a right to be angry.
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Norway25712 Posts
No 
Take MLG instead, please.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On March 03 2013 17:53 scandolouskt wrote:
IPL has always responded quickly in the past, David Ting and his team have earned my respect as people who will do everything in their power to do esports right. I could be naive, but I just don't buy that the whole group changed character overnight.
But I don't think they have a voice anymore. My suspicion is that their new owners have shut them up.
I wouldn't be too surprised if this is actually the case. If it's not, I wonder what's taking them so long.
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