EPTThis is developing news so updates will follow, especially the details before the event and the result of the investigations.
http://reason.com/blog/2012/09/18/newly-released-surveillance-footage-show
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4af_1360655884
LAPD shoots man, cleared of wrongdoing
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
This is developing news so updates will follow, especially the details before the event and the result of the investigations. http://reason.com/blog/2012/09/18/newly-released-surveillance-footage-show http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4af_1360655884 | ||
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GizmoPT
Portugal3040 Posts
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Reaper9
United States1724 Posts
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derpface
Sweden925 Posts
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[Agony]x90
United States853 Posts
That being said, the cops reaction was excessive. Its a shame he hadn't pulled a taser instead of a gun, but how fast he was to shoot and the manner in which he shot was too much. | ||
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RetroAspect
Belgium219 Posts
On February 17 2013 00:29 [Agony]x90 wrote: The man should not have run from the cop and never should you ever do anything that would suggest threatening the cop or doing a sudden motion. They do not know who you are, your motive, how willing you are to kill, etc. That being said, the cops reaction was excessive. Its a shame he hadn't pulled a taser instead of a gun, but how fast he was to shoot and the manner in which he shot was too much. Djeez, the no-matter-what-happened , authority-defenders are really early in the thread this time. Excessive? Outright illegal. This "cop" should go to jail for life. | ||
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Saraf
United States160 Posts
On February 17 2013 00:29 Reaper9 wrote: Well, this won't improve their image any. You'd think they'd tread carefully after the recent...incident. Looks like they don't care either way, cuz they think they are invincible. This was two years ago; it's the video that's just being released now. I believe his family is presently filing a wrongful death suit. Even so: What the fuck, LAPD? | ||
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
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KillerSOS
United States4207 Posts
They have to show intent to harm... | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
Even if you can justify shooting him once (I personally don't think you can), there is definitely no reason to continue firing and shoot him at close range, that's just ridiculous. If the guy is running away from you it doesn't look like self defence to run him down firing, although I am making judgement with limited information. | ||
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Firlefanz
Germany245 Posts
On February 17 2013 00:29 [Agony]x90 wrote: The man should not have run from the cop and never should you ever do anything that would suggest threatening the cop or doing a sudden motion. They do not know who you are, your motive, how willing you are to kill, etc. That being said, the cops reaction was excessive. Its a shame he hadn't pulled a taser instead of a gun, but how fast he was to shoot and the manner in which he shot was too much. What the fuck?! The cop is no animal which acts purely out of instinct. He should be trained to react fast and calm in such situations and not shoot this guy like 6 times in the back! Self defense, when he is clearly running AWAY from you?! It's disgusting what this cop did, the very least that should be done is making sure, that this guy never will be able to have a gun in his hands... | ||
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openbox1
1393 Posts
Not to say the cop shouldn't lose his badge or even go to prison depending on the circumstances, but before we shed too many tears for the victim, I wonder if they can release some pertinent info on him. If he's some convicted armed robber, repeat rapist, serial offender etc... well in the parlance of the old LAPD: "NHI" | ||
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Tennoji
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
On February 17 2013 00:39 Bleak wrote: Well as much as people like to bash USA, I think policemen everywhere are pretty much the same. Most of them can be quite cruel. When you give a group of people a gun and permission to use force, you can't expect every one of them to stop and think the consequences of their actions before using that force. I disagree, in Sweden our police force is nothing like LAPD. theres barely any corruption and no nearly as much freedom given to the police force, the way some cops are acting as if they are superior human beings (some sort of judge dredd mentality). partly probably because of culture but also because of the way swedish policemen are more restricted by law when it comes to using force and violence. Also, police departments should never ever take care of cases within their own ranks. this is disgusting. but from what Ive heard about the LAPD and how incredibly corrupt some US police-departments seem to be (NYPD is another one that comes to mind) sadly, this doesnt surprise me at all. | ||
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Toxi78
966 Posts
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OniGami
Japan140 Posts
We have a cabinet just for "unprovoked police officer shooting citizens" cases in our office, and mind you, that;s not even what we specialize at. Still, due process. For everyone. Even for the cops. Let's see what the investigation says. | ||
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Diks
Belgium1880 Posts
On February 17 2013 00:45 openbox1 wrote: Cop kind of went overboard, especially with the two shots when he's down. Not to say the cop shouldn't lose his badge or even go to prison depending on the circumstances, but before we shed too many tears for the victim, I wonder if they can release some pertinent info on him. If he's some convicted armed robber, repeat rapist, serial offender etc... well in the parlance of the old LAPD: "NHI" I'm gonna half agree with you here. Effectively, we don't know the victim's identity, and there maybe some informations we are dismissing. But serious criminal or not, he deserves a fair trial to prove anything. That's how the justice system is supposed to work. Policemen don't have the right to shoot anyone under serious good reasons. Shooting a guy running away from you is not one. Finishing the guy at close range is even more fucked up. | ||
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shivver
United States232 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12023 Posts
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Xpace
United States2209 Posts
On February 17 2013 00:51 shivver wrote: That is what you call an execution execution [ˌɛksɪˈkjuːʃən] n 1. the act or process of executing 2. (Law) the carrying out or undergoing of a sentence of death 3. the style or manner in which something is accomplished or performed; technique as a pianist his execution is poor 4. (Law) a. the enforcement of the judgment of a court of law b. the writ ordering such enforcement mur·der (mûrdr) n. 1. The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice. 2. Slang Something that is very uncomfortable, difficult, or hazardous: The rush hour traffic is murder. 3. A flock of crows. v. mur·dered, mur·der·ing, mur·ders v.tr. 1. To kill (another human) unlawfully. 2. To kill brutally or inhumanly. 3. To put an end to; destroy: murdered their chances. 4. To spoil by ineptness; mutilate: a speech that murdered the English language. 5. Slang To defeat decisively; trounce. | ||
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