EPTLzGamer Leaves Evil Geniuses - Page 11
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don_kyuhote
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Ingusstarcraft
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G5
United States2921 Posts
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RoyGBiv_13
United States1275 Posts
Good Luck! | ||
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Vertigro
United Kingdom261 Posts
On February 06 2013 20:44 Ingusstarcraft wrote: To be honest, him, demu, incontrol and machine should have been dropped much sooner, they don't accomplish anything. Imagining the salary they're getting from EG, it would be much wiser to drop all of them and hire one or two really top class players, such as Squirtle... but that's just my 2 cents. Should they really? Well im sure you know something EG management doesn't... I mean it's not like Demu is one of the absolute best foreign terrans, Incontrol isn't one of the biggest personalities (and staples) of the entire team and Machine isn't a hugely marketable and still competitive NA zerg. | ||
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Loxley
Netherlands2480 Posts
On February 06 2013 20:44 Ingusstarcraft wrote: To be honest, him, demu, incontrol and machine should have been dropped much sooner, they don't accomplish anything. Imagining the salary they're getting from EG, it would be much wiser to drop all of them and hire one or two really top class players, such as Squirtle... but that's just my 2 cents. You really know how to tie an organisation to its targeted demograph. Everybody loves an organisation who kicks their startup members for 1 top korean. It really makes you love the brand EG. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On February 06 2013 20:44 Ingusstarcraft wrote: To be honest, him, demu, incontrol and machine should have been dropped much sooner, they don't accomplish anything. Imagining the salary they're getting from EG, it would be much wiser to drop all of them and hire one or two really top class players, such as Squirtle... but that's just my 2 cents. Well, Demuslim is undoubtedly one of the better terrans the non-Korean scene has at the moment, which, sadly, doesn't account for much, seeing only 8 terrans in the top 40 ranking of non-Korean players on aligulac (4 of them being place 36, place 37, place 38 and place 39). Besides, in espots outside Korea, skill is probably not the only thing that decides whether you are on a wealthy team or not. Heck, it might not even be the thing that matters most. In fact, I think this is one of the hurdles the scene must overcome for it even to have the chance of be recognized as a full-fledged sport. edit: anyways, gl to lz. I hope he will find a good team soon! | ||
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baba1
Canada355 Posts
On February 06 2013 20:44 Ingusstarcraft wrote: To be honest, him, demu, incontrol and machine should have been dropped much sooner, they don't accomplish anything. Imagining the salary they're getting from EG, it would be much wiser to drop all of them and hire one or two really top class players, such as Squirtle... but that's just my 2 cents. Demuslim is a super strong terran player. Incontrol is not so good but big personality in the community. I agree with you on Machine LZgamer... I would not want them in my EG Team. Not when you have Jaedong and Stephano! | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On February 07 2013 02:03 Vertigro wrote: Should they really? Well im sure you know something EG management don't... I mean it's not like Demu is one of the absolute best foreign terrans, Incontrol isn't one of the biggest personalities (and staples) of the entire team and Machine isn't a hugely marketable and still competitive NA zerg. Machine, hugely marketable? 219 average stream viewers in january 2013 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396508 Still competitive? Last sentence of his liquipedia page: At the GIGABYTE ESPORTS LAN Invitational Machine was unable to get out of the group stage with a 1-4 record, only defeating Mystik. Barely hanging in NA Grandmaster is not "competitive" for a full time progamer. And by that I mean that it doesn't warrant a salary, imo. If he's not paid, then my bad, but he's still living in a nice house and being given food, I would assume (meme reference not intended). I can't say you're wrong about Demuslim and Incontrol. Demuslim is a very good Terran, and Incontrol produces quite a lot of entertaining content. And by the way, I have nothing against Machine, he seems like a nice guy. But nice guy =/= "hugely marketable". | ||
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Vertigro
United Kingdom261 Posts
On February 07 2013 02:20 ZenithM wrote: Machine, hugely marketable? 219 average stream viewers in january 2013 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396508 Still competitive? Last sentence of his liquipedia page: Barely hanging in NA Grandmaster is not "competitive" for a full time progamer. And by that I mean that it doesn't warrant a salary, imo. If he's not paid, then my bad, but he's still living in a nice house and being given food, I would assume (meme reference not intended). I can't say you're wrong about Demuslim and Incontrol. Demuslim is a very good Terran, and Incontrol produces quite a lot of entertaining content. And by the way, I have nothing against Machine, he seems like a nice guy. But nice guy =/= "hugely marketable". I assume EG still see Machine bringing something to the team though, why else would they still keep him around otherwise? They had no problems in cutting Axslav and Strifecro a while back so there's obviously something? I'll concede that Machine's performances haven't been truly 'competitive' in a while, and his stream doesn't bring huge flocks of viewers, but the fact he's been used in EG commercials etc implies that the management see's worth in him | ||
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Ingusstarcraft
45 Posts
On February 07 2013 02:03 Vertigro wrote: Should they really? Well im sure you know something EG management doesn't... I mean it's not like Demu is one of the absolute best foreign terrans, Incontrol isn't one of the biggest personalities (and staples) of the entire team and Machine isn't a hugely marketable and still competitive NA zerg. Being one of the absolut best foreign terrans doesn't mean anything, he's still not really good, compared to some other players EG has. I agree with Incontrol, he sure is important for the team, but not as a player. Now we come to Machine: How is he even close to marketable or competitive? He's barely in GM on the NA server, which means around high masters on EU, that's not very impressive for a full-time, well-paid progamer that can practice with the best of the best all the time. | ||
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zeratul_jf
United States808 Posts
On February 07 2013 02:30 Vertigro wrote: I assume EG still see Machine bringing something to the team though, why else would they still keep him around otherwise? They had no problems in cutting Axslav and Strifecro a while back so there's obviously something? I'll concede that Machine's performances haven't been truly 'competitive' in a while, and his stream doesn't bring huge flocks of viewers, but the fact he's been used in EG commercials etc implies that the management see's worth in him Probably this. He makes good commercials not everyone is good in front of a camera. I would think they are keeping him around just for marketing purposes since everyone else is training and going to tourneys while he makes sure that the EG brand is out there by making extra content. | ||
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
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Ettick
United States2434 Posts
On February 06 2013 20:44 Ingusstarcraft wrote: To be honest, him, demu, incontrol and machine should have been dropped much sooner, they don't accomplish anything. Imagining the salary they're getting from EG, it would be much wiser to drop all of them and hire one or two really top class players, such as Squirtle... but that's just my 2 cents. Demu gets tons of stream viewers and incontrol casts, idk about machine though That's pretty much like saying TL should drop Sheth, Ret, and Tyler just becasue they are not performing that well atm | ||
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Vertigro
United Kingdom261 Posts
On February 07 2013 02:43 Ingusstarcraft wrote: Being one of the absolut best foreign terrans doesn't mean anything, he's still not really good, compared to some other players EG has. You can't just compare every player to the best on their team... and on his day I'd quite confidently say that Demu is a better player than Thorzain! | ||
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
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mikkmagro
Malta1513 Posts
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Dingodile
4139 Posts
Can you stop to say "fire this player, because he is bad"?! because this make no sense! Look here: Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, Rain are playing for your team, the weakest player will be "bashed" every time from the community if we talk about player add and outs about your team. | ||
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Advantageous
China1350 Posts
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
At the end of the day you can't put a price on a bro | ||
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