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NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
February 06 2013 02:00 GMT
#181
On February 06 2013 09:49 furerkip wrote:
Sorry, who is this guy >_>?

Really though, why do people even make these posts? I understand two reasons being +1 post count (fuck yeah!) and trolling.

If there's a thread about a founding EG member leaving and 9 pages of people discussing him, you might as well either not post or use the search function to not seem so ignorant/annoying.
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
February 06 2013 02:06 GMT
#182
On February 06 2013 10:26 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 10:10 Fliparoni wrote:
I wonder why he declined. It would seem to me that being on a top-tier team like EG with all their resources to support you would be extremely beneficial as a progamer.


Might be worth more elsewhere, the way Axslav was with ReIGN. And he wasn't ever going to use the teamhouse or go to Korea; he just got engaged.

If memory serves he never really used the team house all that much, and was always in Louisiana even prior to the engagement. Good luck to Lz regardless.
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
February 06 2013 02:25 GMT
#183
Lz is a pimp.

He'll do fine.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
February 06 2013 02:33 GMT
#184
On February 06 2013 10:54 Bibbit wrote:
He said one thing on stream today that I thought was kind of funny. He seemed relieved to be able to say his skype name and have people add him if they want coaching, rather than having to sneak around and do it covertly through emails because of the Raidcall sponsorship :D

I wonder how many in EG actually use raidcall on a regular basis. Their dota2 squad seems to primarily use skype for example.
Ydriel
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Italy516 Posts
February 06 2013 02:44 GMT
#185
Kinda said to see LzGamer go, I loved the guy, so fun during interviews and such. I'm sure he'll find a great new home.
Wish you nothing but the best bud!
<3 SC2 <3<3 Dota 2. Steam ID: HellS
giX
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States185 Posts
February 06 2013 02:49 GMT
#186
Good luck Lz! you'll be fine.
twitter.com/gixDotA
Dr.Sin
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1126 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 02:54:31
February 06 2013 02:53 GMT
#187
He made a nice little come back at the end of 2012, I really thought he was out of the game because he had fallen off the map for so long and never really establishing himself at the EG house or with the EG PR team. Good luck with whatever road you take next Lz!

I hope they find a role for Machine .
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
February 06 2013 02:58 GMT
#188
On February 06 2013 10:49 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 09:54 LovE- wrote:
He said on stream today that it was quite simple.

His words: "My contract expired. EG offered me a new one. I declined."

He also stated that he isn't leaving ESPORTS and there is no bad blood. Hope to see him on a new team soon!

And that essentially kills all the drama that could have resulted from this.


That is so bizarre. EG is one of the best known, and best paying teams. Maybe he didn't like the atmosphere? But he said there is no bad blood. I'm pretty sure EG works with many types of games, so I can't see him switching to a new game. To be honest I think LZGamer was in an incredibly good position considering his results over the past few years, and TO STILL BE OFFERED a contract is just amazing to me.

Many pro-gamers playing SC2 would dream to be payed by EG and make it into a big name team, having the same results LZGamer has. I think maybe, the only explanation I can think of, is that he was a bit embarrassed to be on such a big team but not really be contributing. So he felt like he didn't belong, or didn't deserve to be there?

Well in any case don't want to be too negative. I hope whatever he does he finds his passion and has a happy life
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
February 06 2013 03:10 GMT
#189
On February 06 2013 06:00 Zebrapudding wrote:
He had such a fun stream to watch.

The stream is not going anywhere.
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 03:13:15
February 06 2013 03:12 GMT
#190
On February 06 2013 11:58 radscorpion9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 10:49 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On February 06 2013 09:54 LovE- wrote:
He said on stream today that it was quite simple.

His words: "My contract expired. EG offered me a new one. I declined."

He also stated that he isn't leaving ESPORTS and there is no bad blood. Hope to see him on a new team soon!

And that essentially kills all the drama that could have resulted from this.


That is so bizarre. EG is one of the best known, and best paying teams. Maybe he didn't like the atmosphere? But he said there is no bad blood. I'm pretty sure EG works with many types of games, so I can't see him switching to a new game. To be honest I think LZGamer was in an incredibly good position considering his results over the past few years, and TO STILL BE OFFERED a contract is just amazing to me.

Many pro-gamers playing SC2 would dream to be payed by EG and make it into a big name team, having the same results LZGamer has. I think maybe, the only explanation I can think of, is that he was a bit embarrassed to be on such a big team but not really be contributing. So he felt like he didn't belong, or didn't deserve to be there?

Well in any case don't want to be too negative. I hope whatever he does he finds his passion and has a happy life

The mere fact that EG is a well-paying team doesn't mean they offered him a well-paying contract like they would to people like Jaedong, Stephano, etc. Probably they offered him a very low paying contract (reflecting what they viewed his worth as), and he obviously disagreed and felt he was worth more
FrodaN
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
754 Posts
February 06 2013 03:14 GMT
#191
Hey LZ never got to know you too well, but I did watch your stream occasionally. Will definitely check in more often. GL man!
Hoberator
Profile Joined June 2011
United States29 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-02 02:35:24
February 06 2013 03:14 GMT
#192
It hasn't gone wrong yet so it never will.
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
February 06 2013 03:23 GMT
#193
Big fan of LzGamer, and still will be.

I think he is a very respectable guy both in and out of game, and like Sheth, is one of the personalities that I want to emulate when I meet new people or introduce more people into eSports. He is a super nice and friendly guy. He is really down to earth, but still has strict standards of conduct for himself. I have never heard him curse or talk badly about another person in his entire CAREER.

When is the last time ANYONE had beef with him? Or you heard him talking badly on anyone else?

The drama, while it actually does get select players attention, it should not be the attention that people strive to receive. And I think that this is Lz's curse and his blessing at the same time. Because a lot of people LOVE the drama and the handful of individuals it is usually revolving around.

IDK EG, is turning into more of a Korean team than a foreign team anyways.
JD, Puma, JYP, Revival.

They have Idra (who is a korean trained player, and since he has left Korea has never been even close performance wise to where he was when he was living there)

Huk, who is living and playing in Korea.

Stephano, Thorzain, and Suppy tho, are their three notable non-koreanpickups, None of whom live in the EG house. (Two of whom spend as much time in Korea, if not more, than they do in the EG house, the 3rd who doesnt live in the EG house either)

Demuslim has also shown the ability to be a top level contender when he is focused.

I am a GIANT fan of iNcontroL as a personality and caster. And I think Machine is another AWSOME person, but in all honesty his entire SC2 career has been based off of his past BW career. If he wasnt on EG at release, he wouldn't be currently.

EG has been slowly expanding their SC2 Korean squad, and when Kespa players become more accessible as far as contracts/trading goes, we will prob see an even more Korean based EG squad. (Not that i blame them... lets be real how many tournaments have foreigners won in a long time where Koreans were present)


Meh ive gotten WWAAAYYY off on this tangent haha sry.

Anyways, big fan, still am, and will be. Will undoubtedly still be clicking on that stream whenever I see it up.
Drmooose
Profile Joined March 2011
United States390 Posts
February 06 2013 03:23 GMT
#194
Always seems like a chill dude. Really fun stream. Best of luck to you man! (Congrats on the engagement btw! We just did too!)
I have a question...
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
February 06 2013 03:24 GMT
#195
On February 06 2013 12:14 Hoberator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 12:10 EGLzGaMeR wrote:
On February 06 2013 06:00 Zebrapudding wrote:
He had such a fun stream to watch.

The stream is not going anywhere.


IT LIVES!!!

I promise to live till the day I die and not a second longer. ^_____^
GunPaladin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1205 Posts
February 06 2013 03:28 GMT
#196
Quantic.Lz
Pulse.Lz
ROOT.Lz
The doctors gave me 9 months to live, ]BIG[ gave me a life time.
smfd
Profile Joined June 2004
United States423 Posts
February 06 2013 03:29 GMT
#197
On February 06 2013 12:23 MaestroSC wrote:
Big fan of LzGamer, and still will be.

I think he is a very respectable guy both in and out of game, and like Sheth, is one of the personalities that I want to emulate when I meet new people or introduce more people into eSports. He is a super nice and friendly guy. He is really down to earth, but still has strict standards of conduct for himself. I have never heard him curse or talk badly about another person in his entire CAREER.

When is the last time ANYONE had beef with him? Or you heard him talking badly on anyone else?

The drama, while it actually does get select players attention, it should not be the attention that people strive to receive. And I think that this is Lz's curse and his blessing at the same time. Because a lot of people LOVE the drama and the handful of individuals it is usually revolving around.

IDK EG, is turning into more of a Korean team than a foreign team anyways.
JD, Puma, JYP, Revival.

They have Idra (who is a korean trained player, and since he has left Korea has never been even close performance wise to where he was when he was living there)

Huk, who is living and playing in Korea.

Stephano, Thorzain, and Suppy tho, are their three notable non-koreanpickups, None of whom live in the EG house. (Two of whom spend as much time in Korea, if not more, than they do in the EG house, the 3rd who doesnt live in the EG house either)

Demuslim has also shown the ability to be a top level contender when he is focused.

I am a GIANT fan of iNcontroL as a personality and caster. And I think Machine is another AWSOME person, but in all honesty his entire SC2 career has been based off of his past BW career. If he wasnt on EG at release, he wouldn't be currently.

EG has been slowly expanding their SC2 Korean squad, and when Kespa players become more accessible as far as contracts/trading goes, we will prob see an even more Korean based EG squad. (Not that i blame them... lets be real how many tournaments have foreigners won in a long time where Koreans were present)


Meh ive gotten WWAAAYYY off on this tangent haha sry.

Anyways, big fan, still am, and will be. Will undoubtedly still be clicking on that stream whenever I see it up.

Machines sc2 career has not been based off his BW career at all, afaik he played well in sc2 beta and even placed top 8 in an MLG? i might be wrong but he was a good player in early sc2 days, and definately a top American player. since then the koreans started to dominate, but machine is probably still a top american zerg, and so is lzgamer ;p
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
February 06 2013 03:37 GMT
#198
On February 06 2013 12:29 smfd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 12:23 MaestroSC wrote:
Big fan of LzGamer, and still will be.

I think he is a very respectable guy both in and out of game, and like Sheth, is one of the personalities that I want to emulate when I meet new people or introduce more people into eSports. He is a super nice and friendly guy. He is really down to earth, but still has strict standards of conduct for himself. I have never heard him curse or talk badly about another person in his entire CAREER.

When is the last time ANYONE had beef with him? Or you heard him talking badly on anyone else?

The drama, while it actually does get select players attention, it should not be the attention that people strive to receive. And I think that this is Lz's curse and his blessing at the same time. Because a lot of people LOVE the drama and the handful of individuals it is usually revolving around.

IDK EG, is turning into more of a Korean team than a foreign team anyways.
JD, Puma, JYP, Revival.

They have Idra (who is a korean trained player, and since he has left Korea has never been even close performance wise to where he was when he was living there)

Huk, who is living and playing in Korea.

Stephano, Thorzain, and Suppy tho, are their three notable non-koreanpickups, None of whom live in the EG house. (Two of whom spend as much time in Korea, if not more, than they do in the EG house, the 3rd who doesnt live in the EG house either)

Demuslim has also shown the ability to be a top level contender when he is focused.

I am a GIANT fan of iNcontroL as a personality and caster. And I think Machine is another AWSOME person, but in all honesty his entire SC2 career has been based off of his past BW career. If he wasnt on EG at release, he wouldn't be currently.

EG has been slowly expanding their SC2 Korean squad, and when Kespa players become more accessible as far as contracts/trading goes, we will prob see an even more Korean based EG squad. (Not that i blame them... lets be real how many tournaments have foreigners won in a long time where Koreans were present)


Meh ive gotten WWAAAYYY off on this tangent haha sry.

Anyways, big fan, still am, and will be. Will undoubtedly still be clicking on that stream whenever I see it up.

Machines sc2 career has not been based off his BW career at all, afaik he played well in sc2 beta and even placed top 8 in an MLG? i might be wrong but he was a good player in early sc2 days, and definately a top American player. since then the koreans started to dominate, but machine is probably still a top american zerg, and so is lzgamer ;p

Not wanting to hate on either player, but America has actually become a very competitive place in the last while, especially when it comes to Zergs (IdrA, goswser, Vibe and Suppy come to mind). Lz and Machine have both had some surprising results last year, but there have been a lot of up-and-comers taking the scene by storm.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
smfd
Profile Joined June 2004
United States423 Posts
February 06 2013 03:54 GMT
#199
On February 06 2013 12:37 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 12:29 smfd wrote:
On February 06 2013 12:23 MaestroSC wrote:
Big fan of LzGamer, and still will be.

I think he is a very respectable guy both in and out of game, and like Sheth, is one of the personalities that I want to emulate when I meet new people or introduce more people into eSports. He is a super nice and friendly guy. He is really down to earth, but still has strict standards of conduct for himself. I have never heard him curse or talk badly about another person in his entire CAREER.

When is the last time ANYONE had beef with him? Or you heard him talking badly on anyone else?

The drama, while it actually does get select players attention, it should not be the attention that people strive to receive. And I think that this is Lz's curse and his blessing at the same time. Because a lot of people LOVE the drama and the handful of individuals it is usually revolving around.

IDK EG, is turning into more of a Korean team than a foreign team anyways.
JD, Puma, JYP, Revival.

They have Idra (who is a korean trained player, and since he has left Korea has never been even close performance wise to where he was when he was living there)

Huk, who is living and playing in Korea.

Stephano, Thorzain, and Suppy tho, are their three notable non-koreanpickups, None of whom live in the EG house. (Two of whom spend as much time in Korea, if not more, than they do in the EG house, the 3rd who doesnt live in the EG house either)

Demuslim has also shown the ability to be a top level contender when he is focused.

I am a GIANT fan of iNcontroL as a personality and caster. And I think Machine is another AWSOME person, but in all honesty his entire SC2 career has been based off of his past BW career. If he wasnt on EG at release, he wouldn't be currently.

EG has been slowly expanding their SC2 Korean squad, and when Kespa players become more accessible as far as contracts/trading goes, we will prob see an even more Korean based EG squad. (Not that i blame them... lets be real how many tournaments have foreigners won in a long time where Koreans were present)


Meh ive gotten WWAAAYYY off on this tangent haha sry.

Anyways, big fan, still am, and will be. Will undoubtedly still be clicking on that stream whenever I see it up.

Machines sc2 career has not been based off his BW career at all, afaik he played well in sc2 beta and even placed top 8 in an MLG? i might be wrong but he was a good player in early sc2 days, and definately a top American player. since then the koreans started to dominate, but machine is probably still a top american zerg, and so is lzgamer ;p

Not wanting to hate on either player, but America has actually become a very competitive place in the last while, especially when it comes to Zergs (IdrA, goswser, Vibe and Suppy come to mind). Lz and Machine have both had some surprising results last year, but there have been a lot of up-and-comers taking the scene by storm.

ok you named the top 4, i wasnt specific enough, but i meant top 20 atleast.
Split Behemoth
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
France104 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 09:12:27
February 06 2013 09:11 GMT
#200
Well i always asked myself how this guy can still be on EG regards to his level on the last 2 years.
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