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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 24 2018 17:54 GMT
#199361
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44375 Posts
February 24 2018 17:57 GMT
#199362
On February 25 2018 02:27 iamthedave wrote:
Serious question on the armed teachers front.

It's obviously insane, but with the insane situation your country is in, I do see the logic.

Would it be a more sensible approach if there was simply a guns cabinet at a specific location that the specific authorised teachers could access if one of these situations breaks out? That way there are guns on campus but they're out of the way except when actually needed, and there's less chance of a stressed teacher blowing away thug life Billy for backtalking one time too many.


Nope, for the same reason that some gun owners prefer only concealed/ open carry instead of storing their guns away in a safe at home: If there's an immediate threat, then they need instant access. Teachers can't leave their students in an emergency to go run down the hall for a gun.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
February 24 2018 19:48 GMT
#199363


Armed Educators

starring Sylvester Stallone and Wesley Snipes. Coming to a blockbuster near you soon!
Neosteel Enthusiast
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21705 Posts
February 24 2018 19:50 GMT
#199364
On February 25 2018 04:48 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/967472757025001472

Armed Educators

starring Sylvester Stallone and Wesley Snipes. Coming to a blockbuster near you soon!

Part of me whats him to do it just so I can slap idiots who through it was an idea with the inevitable increase in shootings.

Sigh.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-24 19:59:52
February 24 2018 19:59 GMT
#199365
On February 25 2018 04:50 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2018 04:48 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/967472757025001472

Armed Educators

starring Sylvester Stallone and Wesley Snipes. Coming to a blockbuster near you soon!

Part of me whats him to do it just so I can slap idiots who through it was an idea with the inevitable increase in shootings.

Sigh.

That will just be the fault of weak liberal art teachers not being able to handle a M60 in one hand
Neosteel Enthusiast
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 24 2018 20:00 GMT
#199366
So this begs the question what is Michael Steele reasoning for not seeing the obvious?

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-24 21:09:48
February 24 2018 21:07 GMT
#199367
On February 25 2018 04:59 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2018 04:50 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 25 2018 04:48 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/967472757025001472

Armed Educators

starring Sylvester Stallone and Wesley Snipes. Coming to a blockbuster near you soon!

Part of me whats him to do it just so I can slap idiots who through it was an idea with the inevitable increase in shootings.

Sigh.

That will just be the fault of weak liberal art teachers not being able to handle a M60 in one hand


Headline: "Black teacher who stopped killing spree shot by cops."
Sub-header: "'I felt threatened, he had a gun', says cop who emptied several ammunition belts worth of bullets into teacher seconds after arriving on scene."
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 24 2018 21:10 GMT
#199368
Hey CPAC, your entire party/group is infested with racist. Like you need to tent the entire house and go visit the grandparents for the weekend ingested.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21705 Posts
February 24 2018 21:13 GMT
#199369
On February 25 2018 06:10 Plansix wrote:
Hey CPAC, your entire party/group is infested with racist. Like you need to tent the entire house and go visit the grandparents for the weekend ingested.

I mean, he basically said "We hired a black man to not appear racist but now its completely fine to be openly racist so that was dumb".
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 24 2018 21:16 GMT
#199370
On February 25 2018 06:13 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2018 06:10 Plansix wrote:
Hey CPAC, your entire party/group is infested with racist. Like you need to tent the entire house and go visit the grandparents for the weekend ingested.

I mean, he basically said "We hired a black man to not appear racist but now its completely fine to be openly racist so that was dumb".

Anyone who disagrees is a RINO.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
February 24 2018 22:32 GMT
#199371
Dem's memo about Carter Page, the FBI, and FISC got released, if anybody cares. Would be interested to hear xDaunt and Danglars respond though.

Link: http://docs.house.gov/meetings/ig/ig00/20180205/106838/hmtg-115-ig00-20180205-sd002.pdf
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-24 22:52:09
February 24 2018 22:47 GMT
#199372
On February 25 2018 07:32 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Dem's memo about Carter Page, the FBI, and FISC got released, if anybody cares. Would be interested to hear xDaunt and Danglars respond though.

Link: http://docs.house.gov/meetings/ig/ig00/20180205/106838/hmtg-115-ig00-20180205-sd002.pdf

I was honestly expecting more of a war of waffling. Nunes' memo was intentionally vague and nitpicky, and I thought the Democrat's memo would be along the same vein.

Just skimming through, though, the first several pages outright say Nunes was flat-out lying on several points. The DOJ did not pay any money for the dossier. The DOJ did tell the court why Steele was terminated as a source, and did disclose his political motivation. The dossier was received by the FBI 7 weeks after the Page investigation began (though before the initial FISA application).

The rest of it kind of does just argue on points that no one else will ever be privy too.


Edit: All-in-all, nothing really new except confirmation of what was known. Nunes is a buffoon and this was an exercise in turning a legal court into a court of opinion.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21705 Posts
February 24 2018 22:51 GMT
#199373
On February 25 2018 07:47 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2018 07:32 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Dem's memo about Carter Page, the FBI, and FISC got released, if anybody cares. Would be interested to hear xDaunt and Danglars respond though.

Link: http://docs.house.gov/meetings/ig/ig00/20180205/106838/hmtg-115-ig00-20180205-sd002.pdf

I was honestly expecting more of a war of waffling. Nunes' memo was intentionally vague and nitpicky, and I thought the Democrat's memo would be along the same vein.

Just skimming through, though, the first several pages outright say Nunes was flat-out lying on several points. The DOJ did not pay any money for the dossier. The DOJ did tell the court why Steele was terminated as a source, and did disclose his political motivation. The dossier was received by the FBI 7 weeks after the Page investigation began (though before the initial FISA application).

The rest of it kind of does just argue on points that no one else will ever be privy too.

Which explains why the Republicans fought hard to keep it locked down. If this had come out while people still cared it would have destroyed their narrative. Now the Republicans can just quietly nod and ignore it.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
February 24 2018 23:12 GMT
#199374
On February 25 2018 06:07 a_flayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2018 04:59 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On February 25 2018 04:50 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 25 2018 04:48 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/967472757025001472

Armed Educators

starring Sylvester Stallone and Wesley Snipes. Coming to a blockbuster near you soon!

Part of me whats him to do it just so I can slap idiots who through it was an idea with the inevitable increase in shootings.

Sigh.

That will just be the fault of weak liberal art teachers not being able to handle a M60 in one hand


Headline: "Black teacher who stopped killing spree shot by cops."
Sub-header: "'I felt threatened, he had a gun', says cop who emptied several ammunition belts worth of bullets into teacher seconds after arriving on scene."


I wish that a) this wasn't funny and b) it wasn't funny because it feels highly likely that this will in fact happen.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44375 Posts
February 24 2018 23:34 GMT
#199375
On February 25 2018 08:12 iamthedave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2018 06:07 a_flayer wrote:
On February 25 2018 04:59 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On February 25 2018 04:50 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 25 2018 04:48 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/967472757025001472

Armed Educators

starring Sylvester Stallone and Wesley Snipes. Coming to a blockbuster near you soon!

Part of me whats him to do it just so I can slap idiots who through it was an idea with the inevitable increase in shootings.

Sigh.

That will just be the fault of weak liberal art teachers not being able to handle a M60 in one hand


Headline: "Black teacher who stopped killing spree shot by cops."
Sub-header: "'I felt threatened, he had a gun', says cop who emptied several ammunition belts worth of bullets into teacher seconds after arriving on scene."


I wish that a) this wasn't funny and b) it wasn't funny because it feels highly likely that this will in fact happen.


Oh it'll definitely happen, despite the fact that most school shooters are white, not black. Not exactly the same, but iirc Philando Castile worked as a teacher and school cafeteria worker, legally possessed a gun, and was shot anyway for being black (although that was in his car and not in the school he worked at).
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 25 2018 00:09 GMT
#199376
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
February 25 2018 00:36 GMT
#199377
On February 25 2018 09:09 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/967538684789739520


Why do i read this in the "you're not my dad" vine voice?
On track to MA1950A.
Wulfey_LA
Profile Joined April 2017
932 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-25 00:49:55
February 25 2018 00:49 GMT
#199378
The Presidential talking points are now that the investigation of Carter Page was SO ILLEGAL. I can't wait to hear from Glenn Greenwald and Sean Hannity how the LEFT ARE FASCISTS for going after poor innocent Carter Page.
EDIT: 'armed educators' plus Carter Page. Talk about bad hills to die on.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
February 25 2018 00:58 GMT
#199379
The Nunes memo was a pack of lies to reasonable observers but was intended to get their base on their side when it comes to the FBI and Mueller. The FBI investigation of Trump and his campaign is well founded. Wonder when it will be concluded.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23250 Posts
February 25 2018 01:00 GMT
#199380
On February 25 2018 05:00 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So this begs the question what is Michael Steele reasoning for not seeing the obvious?

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/967240209732702208


While I disagree with a lot of what Michael Steel says he was kinda like the RNC's Shep Smith but instead of being a ambiguously closeted liberal/centrist, he was an openly Black conservative with some remnants of dignity.

It was polite of The Observer to leave out the room nodding in agreement

The cake topper is the keynote at that event was none other than Judge Jeanine.



I honestly don't know which I find more pathetic, the roster of conservatives that lets someone like Judge Jeanine keynote a Reagan dinner or the roster of Democrats that can't beat them.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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