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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On February 08 2018 02:10 ticklishmusic wrote: Meanwhile, Nancy Pelosi is effectively fillibustering the House for a vote on DACA. She's been speaking for a couple hours now. Natty P coming through for the dreamers | ||
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riotjune
United States3394 Posts
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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brian
United States9643 Posts
because we should take his word after it meaning nothing with the last vote. he hedges the quote by saying ‘if we don’t reach an agreement before the 8th, so long as the government stays open, it is my intention to bring to the floor immigration legislation.’ i remain only marginally hopeful this does happen before friday. but i expect the PR play. | ||
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On February 08 2018 02:54 brian wrote: McConnell all but admitting to going back on his word of holding a vote before the next CR. Wants Dems to take the optics hit and go back on THEIR word first, keeping the government open sans vote, and in turn AGAIN promises to get DACA legislation in. because we should take his word after it meaning nothing with the last vote. he hedges the quote by saying ‘if we don’t reach an agreement before the 8th, so long as he government stays open, it is my intention to bring to the floor immigration legislation.’ i remain only marginally hopeful this does happen before friday. but i expect the PR play. And this is why I don't thin Schumer messed up. With Trump going 'let's have a shut down' and McConnell going back on his word its pretty much a republican shutdown 100% | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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brian
United States9643 Posts
On February 08 2018 03:01 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Never underestimate the Democrats ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. my thoughts exactly. i don’t think they have the balls to do it with another brilliant promise from McConnell. Keep the Gov’t open and you’ll get your vote. I don’t doubt that we’ll get the vote. But i do expect we’ll sign yet another CR on the empty promise of a hollow Majority Leader. It’s a trade. McConnell gets to make Schumer eat his words on his promise to vote by Feb 8, and gets the vote next week after caving into the CR. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22552 Posts
On February 08 2018 03:04 brian wrote: my thoughts exactly. i don’t think they have the balls to do it with another brilliant promise from McConnell. Keep the Gov’t open and you’ll get your vote. I don’t doubt that we’ll get the vote. But i do expect we’ll sign yet another CR on the empty promise of a hollow Majority Leader. It’s a trade. McConnell gets to make Schumer eat his words on his promise to vote by Feb 8, and gets the vote next week after caving into the CR. What promise did Schumer make for the 8th? The deal was the Democrats allowing the previous 3 week extension and a DACA vote in that time right? | ||
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brian
United States9643 Posts
On February 08 2018 03:08 Gorsameth wrote: What promise did Schumer make for the 8th? The deal was the Democrats allowing the previous 3 week extension and a DACA vote in that time right? yes. and ‘that time’ ends tomorrow. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22552 Posts
yeah. So either there is a vote or there is a shutdown. There is 0 reason for the Democrats to extend again in exchange for a DACA vote. | ||
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farvacola
United States18866 Posts
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
I submit that you have 30 minutes to speak and after that time is up, everyone else in the room has full freedom to pelt you with rotton tomatoes | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On February 08 2018 03:43 Aveng3r wrote: How is fillibustering not illegal. It is a blatant waste of everyones time and a roadblock to progress. I submit that you have 30 minutes to speak and after that time is up, everyone else in the room has full freedom to pelt you with rotton tomatoes some jurisdictions have established tighter rules on their filibusters. and progress is being blocked by the republican congress in general  why would it necessarily be illegal? it worked fine for a century and a half, and only started being a problem recently due to some changes which somehow haven't been reverted. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On February 08 2018 03:54 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/961311022991708160 I refuse to believe kelly is out until he is out. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
EU seeks U.S. compensation for solar panel tariffs: WTO GENEVA (Reuters) - The European Union has sent the United States a demand for talks on compensation for steep U.S. tariffs imposed on imported solar panels, a World Trade Organization filing showed on Wednesday. The EU request said Germany was a major exporter and cited WTO rules under which it could demand compensation. The EU move follows similar steps by China, Taiwan and South Korea, but unlike them it did not accuse the United States of breaking WTO rules. source: www.reuters.com glad our politicians have a spine with this one at least. Let's see what comes of it (wasn't sure if this belongs into the EU thread or the US thread but since for me it's more a response to something the US did I personally think it belongs more in the US thread as it would not have been a story without US involvement in the first place) | ||
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Introvert
United States5022 Posts
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