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On February 07 2018 13:13 Introvert wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 12:02 Plansix wrote:
We have smaller military vehicles. The key part is that it will cost a fortune and the Republicans won’t say shit. Also, facsist and authoritarian love military parades. Just love that state sponsored show of force. Word has it he wants to do it because of the one he saw in that tinpot dictatorship known as France. Now I'm not fond of the idea, but then again... + Show Spoiler +
That tweet is kinda missing the point. I was under the impression that the military leadership was rather uncomfortable with the idea of a parade? I don't recall them ever asking for one anyway. Why is Trump trying to throw a party on their behalf that they never really wanted? It just feels awkward.
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On February 07 2018 14:32 Tachion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 13:13 Introvert wrote:On February 07 2018 12:02 Plansix wrote:
We have smaller military vehicles. The key part is that it will cost a fortune and the Republicans won’t say shit. Also, facsist and authoritarian love military parades. Just love that state sponsored show of force. Word has it he wants to do it because of the one he saw in that tinpot dictatorship known as France. Now I'm not fond of the idea, but then again... + Show Spoiler + That tweet is kinda missing the point. I was under the impression that the military leadership was rather uncomfortable with the idea of a parade? I don't recall them ever asking for one anyway. Why is Trump trying to throw a party on their behalf that they never really wanted? It just feels awkward.
The man is a tv star and has a gold toilet. he likes a show.
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On February 07 2018 14:14 Introvert wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 13:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 07 2018 13:13 Introvert wrote:On February 07 2018 12:02 Plansix wrote:
We have smaller military vehicles. The key part is that it will cost a fortune and the Republicans won’t say shit. Also, facsist and authoritarian love military parades. Just love that state sponsored show of force. Word has it he wants to do it because of the one he saw in that tinpot dictatorship known as France. Now I'm not fond of the idea, but then again... + Show Spoiler + I mean the Taliban has had worse days but I'd prefer they not spend a penny on a dumbass dick parade and spend anything they even considered on trying to stop more veterans from killing themselves than we are losing in all those "great" battles. This is like "pointless votes in the House cost x dollars." It isn't enough to register. cost is the not the problem we are dealing with.
Actually it is.
First off, that money would most likely come out of the military's budget, and our budget is stretched extremely thin as-is.
Second, it would take a lot of time and manpower. Military assets would have to be relocated, personnel given new orders to train for and travel to this event, etc. All of this is an incredible amount of man-hours that aren't accounted for.
As someone who's in the military, the money and logistics of something as frivolous as this makes the vast majority of us just roll our eyes and cuss out flag officers yet again.
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portraying this as "veterans vs parades" is a false premise. a few million and man hours doesn't change that.
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On February 07 2018 15:12 Introvert wrote:
portraying this as "veterans vs parades" is a false premise. a few million and man hours doesn't change that.
"We can throw away a few million on a parade for our dear leader. What? You want a few million for better health care? Go away commie! we can't spare that!"
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“The marching orders were: I want a parade like the one in France,” said a military official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the planning discussions are supposed to remain confidential. “This is being worked at the highest levels of the military.”
From the parade link story. Love the anonymity, LOVE IT.
Also love the idea of the parade, make people feel pride in the military, why are you guys worried about the streets, this will be broadcast around the world, and show people the might of the USA that literally is the military that most of the world rely's on. Does not bother me one bit from Canada, And cant wait to watch it.
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Macron, biggest troll to the US taxpayer among the foreign leaders.
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On February 07 2018 14:30 pmh wrote:
That everyone suffers from a collapse in the stock market is a myth,and the panic and anxiety about the market today is laughable when you compare it with 2007/2008 and 2000. The dow at its lowest point was still higher then 4 months ago lol,like wth?
To those of you who did experience the market in 2007/2008,most of you probably in college. Did that market collapse in any way effect your life? Pls ask yourself this question and be honest about it and then tell me the answer with a few examples of how and why.
For me it didn't effect it at all,but maybe I am an exception. And 2007/2008 was the worst collapse in history since 1929. The volatility of the past few days is nothing.
I lived in Las Vegas. The housing market completely collapsed and over half the houses on my street foreclosed. I've shared that story in this thread years ago. Vegas housing market was complete shambles, and entire strip malls were abandoned/empty/unoccupied. Jobs were down. Construction of housing/apartment complexes stopped, some were still on hold in 2010 when I left.
Shrug, definitely effected my life a lot. No idea where I'd be today if it hadn't happened, but it did motivate me to get out of Las Vegas pretty quickly and I like the PNW. I personally don't want others to go through what I went through, also definitely don't want to experience 1929 ever.
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On February 07 2018 14:30 pmh wrote:
That everyone suffers from a collapse in the stock market is a myth,and the panic and anxiety about the market today is laughable when you compare it with 2007/2008 and 2000. The dow at its lowest point was still higher then 4 months ago lol,like wth?
To those of you who did experience the market in 2007/2008,most of you probably in college. Did that market collapse in any way effect your life? Pls ask yourself this question and be honest about it and then tell me the answer with a few examples of how and why.
For me it didn't effect it at all,but maybe I am an exception. And 2007/2008 was the worst collapse in history since 1929. The volatility of the past few days is nothing.
The stock market wasn't the only aspect of the 2007/8 financial crisis, and living in Spain, its effects definitely had a great impact on my life. As they did for virtually everybody living in Spain at the time... or in fact, right now: quite a few of the social problems in Spain right now are a direct consequence of how the government responded to the financial crisis (huge and sudden cuts to pretty much all public spending).
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On February 07 2018 14:30 pmh wrote:
That everyone suffers from a collapse in the stock market is a myth,and the panic and anxiety about the market today is laughable when you compare it with 2007/2008 and 2000. The dow at its lowest point was still higher then 4 months ago lol,like wth?
To those of you who did experience the market in 2007/2008,most of you probably in college. Did that market collapse in any way effect your life? Pls ask yourself this question and be honest about it and then tell me the answer with a few examples of how and why.
For me it didn't effect it at all,but maybe I am an exception. And 2007/2008 was the worst collapse in history since 1929. The volatility of the past few days is nothing.
My direct family is still being affected by it.
I was interning at the mortgage company my mom works at. I lost my job since the project I was working on got scrapped. A few months later my mom was laid off. Since she was from the era where you didn't need an IT based degree to get into IT, she was unemployed for half a year before the group that bought her old company brought her back. Since then, there hasn't been more than a year at a time where I don't hear about the company laying people off and her not being super stressed out by it.
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On February 07 2018 16:19 Taelshin wrote:
“The marching orders were: I want a parade like the one in France,” said a military official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the planning discussions are supposed to remain confidential. “This is being worked at the highest levels of the military.”
From the parade link story. Love the anonymity, LOVE IT.
Also love the idea of the parade, make people feel pride in the military, why are you guys worried about the streets, this will be broadcast around the world, and show people the might of the USA that literally is the military that most of the world rely's on. Does not bother me one bit from Canada, And cant wait to watch it.
The 14th of July parade is a disgrace and a remnant of our aggressive nationalist, militarist and colonialist past.
Big guns, boots and tanks certainly give hard ons to the likes of Kim Jong Un, Putin or Assad. We are worth better than that. There are better things to celebrate than our ability to kill a lot of people.
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On February 07 2018 16:19 Taelshin wrote:
“The marching orders were: I want a parade like the one in France,” said a military official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the planning discussions are supposed to remain confidential. “This is being worked at the highest levels of the military.”
From the parade link story. Love the anonymity, LOVE IT.
Also love the idea of the parade, make people feel pride in the military, why are you guys worried about the streets, this will be broadcast around the world, and show people the might of the USA that literally is the military that most of the world rely's on. Does not bother me one bit from Canada, And cant wait to watch it.
Is there anyone in the world who questions America's military superiority?
Does America not feel pride in its military?
This is Trump needing to wave his dick around. This is him wanting to feed his ego by having video's of him with soldiers parading past ala 'name any random Dictator'.
You want to honor your military? Spend the money on decent psychological care instead.
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On February 07 2018 14:30 pmh wrote:
That everyone suffers from a collapse in the stock market is a myth,and the panic and anxiety about the market today is laughable when you compare it with 2007/2008 and 2000. The dow at its lowest point was still higher then 4 months ago lol,like wth?
To those of you who did experience the market in 2007/2008,most of you probably in college. Did that market collapse in any way effect your life? Pls ask yourself this question and be honest about it and then tell me the answer with a few examples of how and why.
For me it didn't affect it at all, but maybe I am an exception. And 2007/2008 was the worst collapse in history since 1929. The volatility of the past few days is nothing.
Good for you (i mean it).
Lost my job, had to return to live with my parents after many years living on my own, and it took me 5 years to finally find a job somewhat stable and decent paying enough to be independent and start again to build savings to buy a house (i worked and studied during that time, but most jobs were paid in black, with shit salaries and horrible work conditions for an uneducated fuck like me). It pretty set me back for years and I could not progress no matter how hard I tried.
And I am not including all the family members, friends, etc who lost their jobs at the time and couldn't find any for long periods of time. The mood wasn't pretty for a long time.
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On February 07 2018 14:13 Doodsmack wrote:
LOL...what a clown show.
this doesn’t even get a follow up? we went through ten pages of shit because of this. what a hack.
On February 03 2018 05:42 brian wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2018 05:39 Danglars wrote:On February 03 2018 05:04 WolfintheSheep wrote:On February 03 2018 04:54 Danglars wrote:On February 03 2018 04:47 WolfintheSheep wrote:On February 03 2018 04:39 Danglars wrote:On February 03 2018 04:16 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Wait wait wait...
So, if I'm reading the House Intelligence Committee report correctly, their problem is that the Dossier was omitted from the FISA renewal application? As in the application that provides probable cause to justify a continuation of surveillance?
So basically a judge received probable cause that did not rely on the Dossier, approved the FISA renewal, and Nunes doesn't like that they didn't present the evidence that he wants to discredita? It said almost the exact opposite. It’s only four pages long. Yeah, misread the first couple lines. The bullet point starts with "material and relevant information was omitted", and the first point says "The dossier compiled by Christopher Steele". So the entire complaint is that the FISA application doesn't say that sources of evidence could be biased. Which, um, duh? They didn’t say multiple grounds they had (at the time) to doubt the information in the dossier. The FBI instead brought up at least one false means of corrobation and concealed conflicts of interest and credibility gaps. According to the memo. xDaunts already said three different ways why that matters, so I suggest you read him. They were presenting probable cause to continue investigating, not giving evidence to prove guilt. (Of course, if this was court, it still wouldn't be the job of the investigators/prosecutors to provide the doubt) They withheld material facts from the judge that is the last line of defense in this process for fourth amendment protections of American citizens. Maybe you’d understand if some enemy of yours had paid to smear your reputation, and the FBI didn’t let on to a judge the person who had reason to do you harm. But again, maybe not. called it. Danglars goes into the weekend calling for source materials and claiming he doesn’t have to rely on Nunes’s credibility. source materials are nowhere to be found, and you bite down anyway on Nunes’s credibility.
i suspect this’ll age like a fine wine. it hasn’t even been a week. take a peek at the immediate parent comment.
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On February 07 2018 20:33 brian wrote:this doesn’t even get a follow up? we went through ten pages of shit because of this. what a hack.
Color me unsurprised, I really hope Nunes gets what's owed him.
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On February 07 2018 20:33 brian wrote:this doesn’t even get a follow up? we went through ten pages of shit because of this. what a hack.
"Never Play Defense".
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On February 07 2018 20:33 brian wrote:this doesn’t even get a follow up? we went through ten pages of shit because of this. what a hack.
What is there to say, we were right. But it was never about the truth, it was about enough shit flinging that everything starts to smell.
Or were you expecting an honest reaction from Dangler? An admission that Nunes played him like a fiddle?
Good luck with that.
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On February 07 2018 22:25 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:33 brian wrote:this doesn’t even get a follow up? we went through ten pages of shit because of this. what a hack. What is there to say, we were right. But it was never about the truth, it was about enough shit flinging that everything starts to smell. Or were you expecting an honest reaction from Dangler? An admission that Nunes played him like a fiddle? Good luck with that.
Also, i am willing to bet you that in a year, there are still a lot of people who never heard of that admission. They will still continue to claim that the memo proves that everything was evil, or whatever the point was in the first place.
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On February 07 2018 22:33 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 22:25 Gorsameth wrote:On February 07 2018 20:33 brian wrote:this doesn’t even get a follow up? we went through ten pages of shit because of this. what a hack. What is there to say, we were right. But it was never about the truth, it was about enough shit flinging that everything starts to smell. Or were you expecting an honest reaction from Dangler? An admission that Nunes played him like a fiddle? Good luck with that. Also, i am willing to bet you that in a year, there are still a lot of people who never heard of that admission. They will still continue to claim that the memo proves that everything was evil, or whatever the point was in the first place.
Yeah, suddenly a lot less tweets being posted and xdaunt doesn't have much to say
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